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RE: COVID-19 and fall sports
(05-23-2020 07:07 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 06:38 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:36 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  NIU students back on campus this fall, smaller classes live, larger classes mostly online type deal.

https://www.niu.edu/updates/messaging/5-...dents.html

Thanks for sharing China!

Though the forensic genome sleuthing seems to indicate most of the #covid19 in the US came from Europe.

And though South Korea, New Zealand and Singapore all definitely got the disease "shared" from China, they all have it under much better control than the US.

It seem like it's not so much where it came from but rather how competent the place it arrived is at handling epidemics.

New Zealand's warmest month is February and Singapore's Feb temps are about 90 degrees.
Notice almost half the coronavirus deaths in the
US are in the NE. South Korea's temp for Feb-March
are about 15-20 degrees warmer than the NE US.
Temp,humidity, and the ability to be able to avoid
crowded enclosed areas effect morbidity rates.
Any poorly ventilated inside area is a potential contagion point, at any temp. This is magnified when the area is crowded.

Masks reduce spread by at least 50%.

Hydoxichloroquin use raises death rates and does not shorten recovery. The Trump family has investments in the drug maker.

Some parts of the country are seeing new case levels rise as others see declines. And some are almost free of the disease but vulnerable to spread from travelling in or out.

There will be no vaccine for at least a few months, and no guarantee that any vaccine will work on constant mutations of the virus.

There is no certainty having survived the virus gives you immunity. People have gotten sick from it multiple times. Although transfusions of the blood plasma w antibodies of recovered patients has reduced death rates in serious active cases.

These are all facts that can be sourced. Life goes on and it won't be in a bubble, but understanding facts can help.
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RE: COVID-19 and fall sports
(05-23-2020 03:21 PM)pono Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 07:07 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 06:38 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:36 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  NIU students back on campus this fall, smaller classes live, larger classes mostly online type deal.

https://www.niu.edu/updates/messaging/5-...dents.html

Thanks for sharing China!

Though the forensic genome sleuthing seems to indicate most of the #covid19 in the US came from Europe.

And though South Korea, New Zealand and Singapore all definitely got the disease "shared" from China, they all have it under much better control than the US.

It seem like it's not so much where it came from but rather how competent the place it arrived is at handling epidemics.

New Zealand's warmest month is February and Singapore's Feb temps are about 90 degrees.
Notice almost half the coronavirus deaths in the
US are in the NE. South Korea's temp for Feb-March
are about 15-20 degrees warmer than the NE US.
Temp,humidity, and the ability to be able to avoid
crowded enclosed areas effect morbidity rates.
Any poorly ventilated inside area is a potential contagion point, at any temp. This is magnified when the area is crowded.

Masks reduce spread by at least 50%.

Hydoxichloroquin use raises death rates and does not shorten recovery. The Trump family has investments in the drug maker.

Some parts of the country are seeing new case levels rise as others see declines. And some are almost free of the disease but vulnerable to spread from travelling in or out.

There will be no vaccine for at least a few months, and no guarantee that any vaccine will work on constant mutations of the virus.

There is no certainty having survived the virus gives you immunity. People have gotten sick from it multiple times. Although transfusions of the blood plasma w antibodies of recovered patients has reduced death rates in serious active cases.

These are all facts that can be sourced. Life goes on and it won't be in a bubble, but understanding facts can help.

Do we know this? The senseless promotion of the drug would make a lot more sense if that's true.
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RE: COVID-19 and fall sports
(05-22-2020 06:39 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 04:43 PM)axeme Wrote:  There are always viruses and sometimes pandemics. It has been a part of civilization since the beginning. The only thing that matters truly is how you respond to them. Unfortunately, the federal leadership in this country has done that extraordinarily poorly and ineffectively, especially when compared to much of the world and especially considering the wealth and resources of this country. It’s been shamefully inept and chaotic. Have a plan. Deliver a consistent message. There’s no perfect solution, but we’ve certainly proven that you can botch the response and cost a lot more lives and damage to the economy than was necessary.

China is 100% liable to a number of countries. They knowingly allowed plane load after plane load of sick Chinese to fly out of Wuhan, day after day, to dozens of other countries, all while silencing their local doctors, lying to the WHO, hoarding PPE and trying to cover their tracks. This all could have been contained much beter, perhaps only to China, if they were a caring responsible nation.

Sad that an immoral communist government costs many innocent countries trillions of dollars and thousands of lives, yet some aim the brunt of their angst at our own government. I'm not 100% happy with state or federal response, especially the continued extent of the lockdown in some places, but there is only one real culprit here.

Getting some news from an outlet not consumed with the outcome of the upcoming election is a good idea for all of us.

No, there are multiple culprits. China should have been more open, but we've had a complete lack of federal leadership also.
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(05-23-2020 05:00 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 03:21 PM)pono Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 07:07 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 06:38 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:36 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  NIU students back on campus this fall, smaller classes live, larger classes mostly online type deal.

https://www.niu.edu/updates/messaging/5-...dents.html

Thanks for sharing China!

Though the forensic genome sleuthing seems to indicate most of the #covid19 in the US came from Europe.

And though South Korea, New Zealand and Singapore all definitely got the disease "shared" from China, they all have it under much better control than the US.

It seem like it's not so much where it came from but rather how competent the place it arrived is at handling epidemics.

New Zealand's warmest month is February and Singapore's Feb temps are about 90 degrees.
Notice almost half the coronavirus deaths in the
US are in the NE. South Korea's temp for Feb-March
are about 15-20 degrees warmer than the NE US.
Temp,humidity, and the ability to be able to avoid
crowded enclosed areas effect morbidity rates.
Any poorly ventilated inside area is a potential contagion point, at any temp. This is magnified when the area is crowded.

Masks reduce spread by at least 50%.

Hydoxichloroquin use raises death rates and does not shorten recovery. The Trump family has investments in the drug maker.

Some parts of the country are seeing new case levels rise as others see declines. And some are almost free of the disease but vulnerable to spread from travelling in or out.

There will be no vaccine for at least a few months, and no guarantee that any vaccine will work on constant mutations of the virus.

There is no certainty having survived the virus gives you immunity. People have gotten sick from it multiple times. Although transfusions of the blood plasma w antibodies of recovered patients has reduced death rates in serious active cases.

These are all facts that can be sourced. Life goes on and it won't be in a bubble, but understanding facts can help.

Do we know this? The senseless promotion of the drug would make a lot more sense if that's true.


Trump's holding are through a mutual fund and a couple European market index funds . It's through 3 family trusts. The funds have stakes in Sanofi, a large
pharmaceutical that is one of at least four companies
that have manufactured hydroxychloroquine since the 1950's. The companies have donated millions of doses. Trump's holdings of Sanofi through the funds
have been valued at somewhere between about $100 and $1500. This according to his 2019 disclosure statement. The information is available in the April 7,
Market Watch.

Prior to the pandemic, President Trump had lost an estimated $1 billion of his networth while in Office.
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2020 01:49 AM by Boca Rocket.)
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RE: COVID-19 and fall sports
(05-23-2020 07:55 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 05:00 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 03:21 PM)pono Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 07:07 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 06:38 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  Though the forensic genome sleuthing seems to indicate most of the #covid19 in the US came from Europe.

And though South Korea, New Zealand and Singapore all definitely got the disease "shared" from China, they all have it under much better control than the US.

It seem like it's not so much where it came from but rather how competent the place it arrived is at handling epidemics.

New Zealand's warmest month is February and Singapore's Feb temps are about 90 degrees.
Notice almost half the coronavirus deaths in the
US are in the NE. South Korea's temp for Feb-March
are about 15-20 degrees warmer than the NE US.
Temp,humidity, and the ability to be able to avoid
crowded enclosed areas effect morbidity rates.
Any poorly ventilated inside area is a potential contagion point, at any temp. This is magnified when the area is crowded.

Masks reduce spread by at least 50%.

Hydoxichloroquin use raises death rates and does not shorten recovery. The Trump family has investments in the drug maker.

Some parts of the country are seeing new case levels rise as others see declines. And some are almost free of the disease but vulnerable to spread from travelling in or out.

There will be no vaccine for at least a few months, and no guarantee that any vaccine will work on constant mutations of the virus.

There is no certainty having survived the virus gives you immunity. People have gotten sick from it multiple times. Although transfusions of the blood plasma w antibodies of recovered patients has reduced death rates in serious active cases.

These are all facts that can be sourced. Life goes on and it won't be in a bubble, but understanding facts can help.

Do we know this? The senseless promotion of the drug would make a lot more sense if that's true.


Trump's holding are through a mutual fund and a couple European market index funds . It's through 3 family trusts. The funds have stakes in Sanofi, a large
pharmaceutical that is one of at least four companies
that have manufactured hydroxychloroquine since the 1950's. The companies have donated millions of doses. Trump's holdings of Sanofi through the funds
have been valued at somewhere between about $100 and $1500. This according to his 2019 disclosure statement. The information is available in the April 7,
Market Watch.

Prior to the pandemic, President Trump had lost an estimated $1 billion of his networth while in Office.

It should be interesting with so much of his holdings in various real estate and hospitality and casinos and golf courses.

He better hope not to turn into another Hertz, if he is overleaveraged.
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RE: COVID-19 and fall sports
(05-24-2020 07:12 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 07:55 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 05:00 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 03:21 PM)pono Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 07:07 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  New Zealand's warmest month is February and Singapore's Feb temps are about 90 degrees.
Notice almost half the coronavirus deaths in the
US are in the NE. South Korea's temp for Feb-March
are about 15-20 degrees warmer than the NE US.
Temp,humidity, and the ability to be able to avoid
crowded enclosed areas effect morbidity rates.
Any poorly ventilated inside area is a potential contagion point, at any temp. This is magnified when the area is crowded.

Masks reduce spread by at least 50%.

Hydoxichloroquin use raises death rates and does not shorten recovery. The Trump family has investments in the drug maker.

Some parts of the country are seeing new case levels rise as others see declines. And some are almost free of the disease but vulnerable to spread from travelling in or out.

There will be no vaccine for at least a few months, and no guarantee that any vaccine will work on constant mutations of the virus.

There is no certainty having survived the virus gives you immunity. People have gotten sick from it multiple times. Although transfusions of the blood plasma w antibodies of recovered patients has reduced death rates in serious active cases.

These are all facts that can be sourced. Life goes on and it won't be in a bubble, but understanding facts can help.

Do we know this? The senseless promotion of the drug would make a lot more sense if that's true.


Trump's holding are through a mutual fund and a couple European market index funds . It's through 3 family trusts. The funds have stakes in Sanofi, a large
pharmaceutical that is one of at least four companies
that have manufactured hydroxychloroquine since the 1950's. The companies have donated millions of doses. Trump's holdings of Sanofi through the funds
have been valued at somewhere between about $100 and $1500. This according to his 2019 disclosure statement. The information is available in the April 7,
Market Watch.

Prior to the pandemic, President Trump had lost an estimated $1 billion of his networth while in Office.

It should be interesting with so much of his holdings in various real estate and hospitality and casinos and golf courses.

He better hope not to turn into another Hertz, if he is overleaveraged.

Hertz has been mismanaged and losing money for a while now. Unfortunately it will have some impact on the automakers.
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(05-24-2020 08:55 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-24-2020 07:12 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 07:55 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 05:00 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 03:21 PM)pono Wrote:  Any poorly ventilated inside area is a potential contagion point, at any temp. This is magnified when the area is crowded.

Masks reduce spread by at least 50%.

Hydoxichloroquin use raises death rates and does not shorten recovery. The Trump family has investments in the drug maker.

Some parts of the country are seeing new case levels rise as others see declines. And some are almost free of the disease but vulnerable to spread from travelling in or out.

There will be no vaccine for at least a few months, and no guarantee that any vaccine will work on constant mutations of the virus.

There is no certainty having survived the virus gives you immunity. People have gotten sick from it multiple times. Although transfusions of the blood plasma w antibodies of recovered patients has reduced death rates in serious active cases.

These are all facts that can be sourced. Life goes on and it won't be in a bubble, but understanding facts can help.

Do we know this? The senseless promotion of the drug would make a lot more sense if that's true.


Trump's holding are through a mutual fund and a couple European market index funds . It's through 3 family trusts. The funds have stakes in Sanofi, a large
pharmaceutical that is one of at least four companies
that have manufactured hydroxychloroquine since the 1950's. The companies have donated millions of doses. Trump's holdings of Sanofi through the funds
have been valued at somewhere between about $100 and $1500. This according to his 2019 disclosure statement. The information is available in the April 7,
Market Watch.

Prior to the pandemic, President Trump had lost an estimated $1 billion of his networth while in Office.

It should be interesting with so much of his holdings in various real estate and hospitality and casinos and golf courses.

He better hope not to turn into another Hertz, if he is overleaveraged.

Hertz has been mismanaged and losing money for a while now. Unfortunately it will have some impact on the automakers.

Agree. It should be hard to lose money in "good times" say until late 2/1/2020..
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FYI for perspective and not specific to Fall Sports, but Covid-19. UMass unions have agreed to a 5 day furlough, which is about a 2% pay cut. The athletic staff has followed suite and our AD is taking a 10% pay cut for 14 months. The head basketball and football coaches have agreed to a 12 month 10% pay cut. UMass has 21 sports and as of April 30th, have no plans to cut a sport.

https://www.masslive.com/umassbasketball...youts.html

Where I work there is elimination of the company match to the 401k plan, or a 3% reduction for one year.
My neighbor starts a 10% pay cut.
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(05-23-2020 07:07 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 06:38 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:36 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  NIU students back on campus this fall, smaller classes live, larger classes mostly online type deal.

https://www.niu.edu/updates/messaging/5-...dents.html

Thanks for sharing China!

Though the forensic genome sleuthing seems to indicate most of the #covid19 in the US came from Europe.

And though South Korea, New Zealand and Singapore all definitely got the disease "shared" from China, they all have it under much better control than the US.

It seem like it's not so much where it came from but rather how competent the place it arrived is at handling epidemics.

New Zealand's warmest month is February and Singapore's Feb temps are about 90 degrees.
Notice almost half the coronavirus deaths in the
US are in the NE.

Arguably because the US had no controls on flights from Europe or even fever checks for people deplaning at JFK when the epidemic was raging out of control in Italy, among other European locations, so the epidemic hit NYC hard.

Everyone wants the covid19 virus to be as much like a flu virus as possible, because we know a lot about the flu virus, but it's a coronavirus, like the novel SARS and MERS viruses and at least four endemic cold viruses ... and I sure as hell remember catching a summer cold before in my life.

If the warmer weather without masks or social distancing measures in place slows the doubling time from 3days to 6days, that just means it takes two months to be 1,000 times where it started instead of one month.
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(05-23-2020 07:55 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Prior to the pandemic, President Trump had lost an estimated $1 billion of his networth while in Office.

Though to be fair, he has had a lot more success in his life losing money than making money, so it's not like losing a lot of money at a fast rate is a new experience for him.

Before his dad died it was his dad that bailed him out, afterwards it was helping foreign gangsters launder money through real estate loopholes and appearing on a heavily edited "reality" TV show pretending to be a rich businessman. Both those more recent cash cows are either off the table or seriously hindered by being President.
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(05-27-2020 03:54 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 07:55 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Prior to the pandemic, President Trump had lost an estimated $1 billion of his networth while in Office.

Though to be fair, he has had a lot more success in his life losing money than making money, so it's not like losing a lot of money at a fast rate is a new experience for him.

Before his dad died it was his dad that bailed him out, afterwards it was helping foreign gangsters launder money through real estate loopholes and appearing on a heavily edited "reality" TV show pretending to be a rich businessman. Both those more recent cash cows are either off the table or seriously hindered by being President.

Regrettably many are referring to him as a businessman. Unlike his original SOS, Rex Tillerson, Trump never has had to report to a Board of Directors. He is, however, a superb marketer and brand builder instead of producing a needed product. The Dem's want his tax returns, as they suspect tax evasion issues. He instead won't disclose them because they will expose his less than stellar financial resources. I admire him for projecting and convincing so many that he is a rich and successful man, I just do not believe that to be the case.
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(05-27-2020 04:59 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 03:54 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 07:55 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Prior to the pandemic, President Trump had lost an estimated $1 billion of his networth while in Office.

Though to be fair, he has had a lot more success in his life losing money than making money, so it's not like losing a lot of money at a fast rate is a new experience for him.

Before his dad died it was his dad that bailed him out, afterwards it was helping foreign gangsters launder money through real estate loopholes and appearing on a heavily edited "reality" TV show pretending to be a rich businessman. Both those more recent cash cows are either off the table or seriously hindered by being President.

Regrettably many are referring to him as a businessman. Unlike his original SOS, Rex Tillerson, Trump never has had to report to a Board of Directors. He is, however, a superb marketer and brand builder instead of producing a needed product. The Dem's want his tax returns, as they suspect tax evasion issues. He instead won't disclose them because they will expose his less than stellar financial resources. I admire him for projecting and convincing so many that he is a rich and successful man, I just do not believe that to be the case.

So you don’t think Donald Trump is rich or successful? Huh.
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(05-27-2020 08:30 PM)GRBRONCO Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 04:59 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 03:54 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 07:55 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Prior to the pandemic, President Trump had lost an estimated $1 billion of his networth while in Office.

Though to be fair, he has had a lot more success in his life losing money than making money, so it's not like losing a lot of money at a fast rate is a new experience for him.

Before his dad died it was his dad that bailed him out, afterwards it was helping foreign gangsters launder money through real estate loopholes and appearing on a heavily edited "reality" TV show pretending to be a rich businessman. Both those more recent cash cows are either off the table or seriously hindered by being President.

Regrettably many are referring to him as a businessman. Unlike his original SOS, Rex Tillerson, Trump never has had to report to a Board of Directors. He is, however, a superb marketer and brand builder instead of producing a needed product. The Dem's want his tax returns, as they suspect tax evasion issues. He instead won't disclose them because they will expose his less than stellar financial resources. I admire him for projecting and convincing so many that he is a rich and successful man, I just do not believe that to be the case.

So you don’t think Donald Trump is rich or successful? Huh.

Bloomberg's (there no love lost there), estimates Trump's wealth close to $3billion. He is by far the wealthiest US President ever followed by George Washington.
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(05-27-2020 04:59 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 03:54 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 07:55 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Prior to the pandemic, President Trump had lost an estimated $1 billion of his networth while in Office.

Though to be fair, he has had a lot more success in his life losing money than making money, so it's not like losing a lot of money at a fast rate is a new experience for him.

Before his dad died it was his dad that bailed him out, afterwards it was helping foreign gangsters launder money through real estate loopholes and appearing on a heavily edited "reality" TV show pretending to be a rich businessman. Both those more recent cash cows are either off the table or seriously hindered by being President.

Regrettably many are referring to him as a businessman. Unlike his original SOS, Rex Tillerson, Trump never has had to report to a Board of Directors. He is, however, a superb marketer and brand builder instead of producing a needed product. The Dem's want his tax returns, as they suspect tax evasion issues. He instead won't disclose them because they will expose his less than stellar financial resources. I admire him for projecting and convincing so many that he is a rich and successful man, I just do not believe that to be the case.

My dad(attorney specialty corporate/tax law), would have called this a fishing expedition. At this point they are looking for anything. The dossier, Mueller Report, Impeachment, all have failed to stop Trump.
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Trump's dad gave him in total at least $413 million. That money started coming in as early as he was 3 and it kept coming all throughout his life. Obviously with a sizable chunk being when his dad passed. He'd be a billionaire, likely multi-billionaire, today had he just left that money sitting in a mutual fund that mimicked the s&p 500 and reinvested dividends.

He'd be rich and "successful" without working a single day in his life. That's the bonus of being born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
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(05-28-2020 07:25 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  Trump's dad gave him in total at least $413 million. That money started coming in as early as he was 3 and it kept coming all throughout his life. Obviously with a sizable chunk being when his dad passed. He'd be a billionaire, likely multi-billionaire, today had he just left that money sitting in a mutual fund that mimicked the s&p 500 and reinvested dividends.

He'd be rich and "successful" without working a single day in his life. That's the bonus of being born with a silver spoon in your mouth.

JFK certainly benefitted from a silver spoon.
Joe Sr's wealth in 1935 was estimated to be $3.36 billion by today's standards.
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(05-28-2020 08:15 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-28-2020 07:25 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  Trump's dad gave him in total at least $413 million. That money started coming in as early as he was 3 and it kept coming all throughout his life. Obviously with a sizable chunk being when his dad passed. He'd be a billionaire, likely multi-billionaire, today had he just left that money sitting in a mutual fund that mimicked the s&p 500 and reinvested dividends.

He'd be rich and "successful" without working a single day in his life. That's the bonus of being born with a silver spoon in your mouth.

JFK certainly benefitted from a silver spoon.
Joe Sr's wealth in 1935 was estimated to be $3.36 billion by today's standards.

It's certainly true that both were pretty much as "self-made billionaires" as Kylie Jenner.
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(05-28-2020 07:25 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  Trump's dad gave him in total at least $413 million. That money started coming in as early as he was 3 and it kept coming all throughout his life. Obviously with a sizable chunk being when his dad passed. He'd be a billionaire, likely multi-billionaire, today had he just left that money sitting in a mutual fund that mimicked the s&p 500 and reinvested dividends.

He'd be rich and "successful" without working a single day in his life. That's the bonus of being born with a silver spoon in your mouth.

JFK certainly benefitted from a silver spoon.
Joe Sr's wealth in 1935 was estimated to be $3.36 billion by today's standards.

Well, clearly JFK was neither rich or successful as well.
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(05-28-2020 08:15 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(05-28-2020 07:25 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  Trump's dad gave him in total at least $413 million. That money started coming in as early as he was 3 and it kept coming all throughout his life. Obviously with a sizable chunk being when his dad passed. He'd be a billionaire, likely multi-billionaire, today had he just left that money sitting in a mutual fund that mimicked the s&p 500 and reinvested dividends.

He'd be rich and "successful" without working a single day in his life. That's the bonus of being born with a silver spoon in your mouth.

JFK certainly benefitted from a silver spoon.
Joe Sr's wealth in 1935 was estimated to be $3.36 billion by today's standards.

The Kennedy's, plural, to be sure. Joe Sr. had enough to set the family up for generations. JFK certainly never looked to profiteer from his secret service detachment to generate more Kennedy trust fund income.

Trump had enough money to set himself up as well, and went bankrupt with it.
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Just to clear up a misconception guys- Donald Trump has never filed personal bankruptcy.

Donald Trump has never filed personal bankruptcy. From 1991 through 2009, corporations that he was associated with filed corporate bankruptcy, primarily as a result of too much debt at the hotel and casino properties in Atlantic City.

The second observation is that the Chapter 11 bankruptcy filings at the hotel and casinos etc, other than in the first corporate bankruptcy — where he personally guaranteed a small portion of the corporate debt — his personal wealth was not involved. A corporation is a separate legal entity, so a corporation going bankrupt does not automatically impact the personal assets of its shareholders.

Back on topic- The Covid 19 impact on football for the MAC seems primarily a risk as to the 2-3 OOC payday games each team has that funds a substantial portion of football expenses etc. KSU 3 OOC P5 games this fall are +/-$4MM in guarantees!!
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