(04-11-2020 03:57 AM)pono Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 07:38 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 11:46 AM)cleveland Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 07:21 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  I don't see travel costs as being a big issue for the moment. Seems like every single school in every single conference has fairly similar sports travel costs right now.

There is absolutely no reason to expect that there will be a flu-like ebbing of the epidemic as summer approaches. The reason the regular seasonal flu goes in waves like that is because there is so much immunity spread around that it really needs optimal conditions to spread.

This is a novel virus for the population, so it's a lot more like a novel flu. Novel strains of fly spread outside of "normal" flu season. However, it is still not a perfect analogy. A lot of the summer ebbing for those is that because they are still evolved from earlier strains of flu, there is still a lot of partial immunity spread around older members of the population so transmission by school children is very important, and the "summer drop" is more because school children have gone home for summer.

There might be SOME benefit, but if hotter weather and quicker drying of deposited aerosols on surfaces means that the R0 drops from 2.5 to 2, that's still a runaway infectious disease unless some form of social distancing is in place. And it only helps when outside ... inside an air conditioned supermarket or mall or restaurant or bar will still be wonderful conditions for the covid19 to spread.

If the US gets the planning and work started to work to getting the kind of testing programs underway that are already in place and working in many countries around the world with a more competent response, it may be possible to start up a shortened football season based on regular testing of football teams and playing in closed stadiums, but a normal football season would seem more like hope for Fall 2021. Seems like we blew the chance to have a "fans in stadiums" Fall 2020 back when word of the virus was first received and nothing was done for 70 days.

The President ???? ... said there is no need for national testing. If so, then who will be responsible for the local. state. regional testing and who will determine if it is uniform testing in all 50-states?

This guy and apparently the people around him have no idea of how to view anything except through the $sign.

Unfortunately food cost $$$, and people will die in much greater numbers from poverty over the next several years than they will from this virus. Also an interesting thing to note is the blatant overreporting of deaths from the virus. Hospitals are being told to classify the death as COVID no matter what.

that's simply false. it has been heavily reported by all sorts of news sources that COVID deaths are generally underreported due to lack of testing and people who have not been tested and pass away are often not tested post mortum. In addition, deaths at home and in care homes are often not counted on the COVID tally. Italy for instance has a much higher unofficial COVID death toll than what has been reported. As far as economic woes killing people that is a constant thing in this world. It is a reflection on the economic system not the handling of a public health crisis that would be far worse if strict social and work restrictions were not in place.

The underreporting is largely a CNN talking about. Other causes of death have shot to near zero because everything is counted as COVID. I dont blame anyone for this, if there was a financial reason to do it, I'd report it as COVID too

(04-11-2020 10:02 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-11-2020 03:57 AM)pono Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 07:38 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 11:46 AM)cleveland Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 07:21 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  I don't see travel costs as being a big issue for the moment. Seems like every single school in every single conference has fairly similar sports travel costs right now.

There is absolutely no reason to expect that there will be a flu-like ebbing of the epidemic as summer approaches. The reason the regular seasonal flu goes in waves like that is because there is so much immunity spread around that it really needs optimal conditions to spread.

This is a novel virus for the population, so it's a lot more like a novel flu. Novel strains of fly spread outside of "normal" flu season. However, it is still not a perfect analogy. A lot of the summer ebbing for those is that because they are still evolved from earlier strains of flu, there is still a lot of partial immunity spread around older members of the population so transmission by school children is very important, and the "summer drop" is more because school children have gone home for summer.

There might be SOME benefit, but if hotter weather and quicker drying of deposited aerosols on surfaces means that the R0 drops from 2.5 to 2, that's still a runaway infectious disease unless some form of social distancing is in place. And it only helps when outside ... inside an air conditioned supermarket or mall or restaurant or bar will still be wonderful conditions for the covid19 to spread.

If the US gets the planning and work started to work to getting the kind of testing programs underway that are already in place and working in many countries around the world with a more competent response, it may be possible to start up a shortened football season based on regular testing of football teams and playing in closed stadiums, but a normal football season would seem more like hope for Fall 2021. Seems like we blew the chance to have a "fans in stadiums" Fall 2020 back when word of the virus was first received and nothing was done for 70 days.

The President ???? ... said there is no need for national testing. If so, then who will be responsible for the local. state. regional testing and who will determine if it is uniform testing in all 50-states?

This guy and apparently the people around him have no idea of how to view anything except through the $sign.

Unfortunately food cost $$$, and people will die in much greater numbers from poverty over the next several years than they will from this virus. Also an interesting thing to note is the blatant overreporting of deaths from the virus. Hospitals are being told to classify the death as COVID no matter what.

that's simply false. it has been heavily reported by all sorts of news sources that COVID deaths are generally underreported due to lack of testing and people who have not been tested and pass away are often not tested post mortum. In addition, deaths at home and in care homes are often not counted on the COVID tally. Italy for instance has a much higher unofficial COVID death toll than what has been reported. As far as economic woes killing people that is a constant thing in this world. It is a reflection on the economic system not the handling of a public health crisis that would be far worse if strict social and work restrictions were not in place.

The underreporting is largely a CNN talking about. Other causes of death have shot to near zero because everything is counted as COVID. I dont blame anyone for this, if there was a financial reason to do it, I'd report it as COVID too

I don't watch CNN but I've read several well sourced articles on underreporting elsewhere. in general, in health emergencies with lots of death among poor and older populations there is underreporting. it is common knowledge. there may be someone somewhere over reporting COVID cases for a financial benefit but compared to all the people and agencies massively spending and working to stop the spread without financial considerations it is a miniscule issue. if there is a financial story here it is 40 years of defunding public health programs in the US, UK, Spain, France, Italy, (I think Brazil will join this list) that is contributing to their challenges in handling the disease. Countries that have had more emphasis on public health nationally are managing it better.

(04-10-2020 10:19 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  He did everything he could, the response has been incredible.

Incredibly incompetent, maybe.

(04-10-2020 10:19 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  If you want to blame.anyone , blame the people responsible for putting out bad info

OMG end this thread. Red will see this through red glasses and blue for blue. Politics is everywhere now we are all locked down and bored off our ass. Lets leave it off this board please

(04-13-2020 10:09 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  OMG end this thread. Red will see this through red glasses and blue for blue. Politics is everywhere now we are all locked down and bored off our ass. Lets leave it off this board please

Now that the political BS has ended.....

U of Cincinnati has just ended their men's soccer program......

https://www.wlwt.com/article/university-...y/32142981

I saw that also. ODU Mac member wrestling dropped its program also. I think this is only the beginning. CMU has bare minimum of mens sports. I wonder if any womens teams gets removed but then title IX comes into play
Such crazy times

The NCAA might have to relax the requirement for schools to sponsor 16 sports if this continues. The budget crisis is going to be a real issue.

Agree 100% the economic fallout is going to be severe.

Most MAC schools really only want men's BB and FB anyway, so just allocate 98 scholarships for women and be done with it.

(04-19-2020 08:56 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Most MAC schools really only want men's BB and FB anyway, so just allocate 98 scholarships for women and be done with it.

I'd say most schools have at least 1 extra men's sport they care about. Below are some examples.

Akron - Soccer
Miami & WMU - Hockey
Kent - Baseball

Gary Miller, Akron's president, just released the below video. He's discussing focusing on making Akron a more focused and leaner university. Around the 8 minute mark and 11:30 mark he talks about sports. He's asking for a 20% reduction in athletic spending for 2021 and that additional reductions will be considered. Not sure if other schools have released anything yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKOlQJns...e=youtu.be

Kent State announced today the University will be cutting 20% from the University's budget.

Any other changes around the MAC?

Purdue is planning on opening for the fall citing zero lethal threads to students.

I have heard they are a good school that a lot of smart people have attended over the years.

MD is throwing around on the NIU board that we've seen our last game as an FBS program.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/g9...number_of/

Saw this post on Reddit. Includes only Buffalo and Ohio (surprising, thought there would be more MAC) but the NCAA said that they would not ease the amount of sports requirement and these teams are teams that are at the least amount possible

(04-28-2020 12:20 PM)mpleafan Wrote:  https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/g9...number_of/

Saw this post on Reddit. Includes only Buffalo and Ohio (surprising, thought there would be more MAC) but the NCAA said that they would not ease the amount of sports requirement and these teams are teams that are at the least amount possible

List is a nothingburger.

Either sports will be played in the Fall or not. If they are played everyone will compete as usually, but with social distancing.

If they aren't played then schools aren't having spend to put on events. They are still on the hook for coaching salaries and a few heads might roll in the sake of saving money.

Football with with social distancing will be fascinating. Nothing but unimpeded touchdown runs. Imagine the scores.

Quote:Football with with social distancing will be fascinating.

Spread offense. MAC will be fine.

the real question is if school will start in the fall. there is a real question about dorms and classes being safe. if schools reopen then there will be sports and I imagine fans will be allowed in the stadium. if a dorm and classroom and lecture hall are all safe then a football stadium should be too. still, there's a log way to go. germany has one of the world's strongest systems of testing and tracking and got hit early by covid. about 2 weeks they partially reopened some stores and industry but are now seeing a measurable rise in rates of spread and are gonna monitor it for another week with a mtg scheduled for May 6th to decide if they should return to tighter controls on social and work interactions.