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(04-06-2020 05:52 PM)doss2 Wrote:  No one in the Media will talk about the issue --

of people not having 3 months or more of savings. Experts have preached this for years. I expect to get attacked for being a millionaire. That was not always the case. Born into low income. Worked way through college. When I got my first job in public accounting I quickly saved to reach that 3 months.

I bet a large percentage of the people bemoaning the lost wages have big screen TV's, IPads and the latest IPhones but no savings.

Wake up America and save.

Doss coming Through with something we can agree on.
This is so true. And I agree it’s not being talked about.

My day-to-day hasn't changed, except for weekends when we can't go anywhere.

My work days are longer, and I have to work at least 1-2 hours on Sat / Sun too.

I work in one of the two healthcare networks in Dayton. I am in management, so we are overwhelmed with preparations for the surge (still waiting).

The irony is that while management is working more hours due to endless conference calls and briefings (the first 3 -4 hours of my day, every day, is spent on teleconferences and briefings), we are having to furlough employees, cut staffing by 40-50%, "encourage" employees to take vacation days, etc. This is necessary because inpatient census are all close to 50% or more down, and zero elective surgeries are taking place.

I have moved some of my essential people to working from home. And I am spending the majority of my time in one of our smaller hospitals outside of Dayton, which transfers all suspected covid-19 cases to our larger hospitals in Dayton. Me staying at the smaller facility minimizes my risk of being exposed.

My school aged kids are all in high school, and are very responsible grade-wise, so they are fairly low maintenance.

Spring and the yard work that comes with it has kept me busy enough in my off time.

My wife and I are bored with drinking at home, but we aren't sick of each other.

I hope the surge never materializes, but whether it does or doesn't, the hospitals are going to need major economic support from the government.

(04-10-2020 10:12 AM)namrag Wrote:  My day-to-day hasn't changed, except for weekends when we can't go anywhere.

My work days are longer, and I have to work at least 1-2 hours on Sat / Sun too.

I work in one of the two healthcare networks in Dayton. I am in management, so we are overwhelmed with preparations for the surge (still waiting).

The irony is that while management is working more hours due to endless conference calls and briefings (the first 3 -4 hours of my day, every day, is spent on teleconferences and briefings), we are having to furlough employees, cut staffing by 40-50%, "encourage" employees to take vacation days, etc. This is necessary because inpatient census are all close to 50% or more down, and zero elective surgeries are taking place.

I have moved some of my essential people to working from home. And I am spending the majority of my time in one of our smaller hospitals outside of Dayton, which transfers all suspected covid-19 cases to our larger hospitals in Dayton. Me staying at the smaller facility minimizes my risk of being exposed.

My school aged kids are all in high school, and are very responsible grade-wise, so they are fairly low maintenance.

Spring and the yard work that comes with it has kept me busy enough in my off time.

My wife and I are bored with drinking at home, but we aren't sick of each other.

I hope the surge never materializes, but whether it does or doesn't, the hospitals are going to need major economic support from the government.

Hits the nail on the head. I am taking some PTO today to relieve some budgetary concerns. I work in a small rehab hospital, we run very lean staffing-wise. Right before this started my boss asked me about a succession plan and I realized if I got sick or my other FT employee got sick- we may have trouble staffing the dept. which is essential to business. I hired 2 Prn employees and cross-trained an employee from another dept. to fill in for us. No sooner did I finish training her, then she got furloughed. I was like wow what a waste of time!

I attend a couple of COVID teleconferences everyday which makes it hard to get the rest of my work done. We had to shut down outpatient activities, and our census has dropped because our referral source’s censuses have dropped.

Don’t know if I will be able to take students in May because they can’t get background checks or tb tests done at the University.

We have been trying to conserve supplies but have been ratcheting up PPE usage as the recommendations become more and more stringent. We isolate anyone with a fever and symptoms, or FUO. No one in the building has Covid (yet), but we all have to act like it. The whole thing is like punching at shadows.

It’s good to be prepared in case the surge comes. But as the days pass, you begin to realize why you can’t stay prepared like this all the time. It’s a huge waste of time and money that ultimately can’t be sustained. At some point, you have to play the odds.

^^^^
Same with the economy. The longer this goes on in full lockdown the longer term reprecussions from a shut down economy that I would argue impacts us more than the COVID-19 virus. Over 17 million Americans have filed for unemployment thus far and the governement is trying to bail out individuals/families and businesses. At some point, the risk of economic collapse has to outweigh everything else. Also, many areas have not experienced the infection rates that NYC and other highly urban areas have. That needs to be considered also. Maybe there could be an incremental approach where some States or regions could more freely open back up for business - still restricting what comes across State lines [interstate] but intrastate commerce could operate more freely.

Unfortunately, I think NYC was a ticking time bomb for something like this. Even if strict social distancing had been mandated early on, people had to do it, and even if they wanted to it’s incredibly difficult in a place with that population and reliance on public transportation.

Even though it has been a relative disaster compared to everywhere else in the US- they have still been able to deliver the best medical treatment possible and are not having to deny treatment due to being “overwhelmed.”

Holy sh!t the Michigan governor just made it a misdemeanor punishable by a $1000 fine to even drive by yourself between 2 properties that you own in Michigan. They are asking people to rat them out if they drive up to their lake homes. I’m starting to visualize Fonzi in a leather jacket on water skis....

(04-10-2020 11:43 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Unfortunately, I think NYC was a ticking time bomb for something like this. Even if strict social distancing had been mandated early on, people had to do it, and even if they wanted to it’s incredibly difficult in a place with that population and reliance on public transportation.

Even though it has been a relative disaster compared to everywhere else in the US- they have still been able to deliver the best medical treatment possible and are not having to deny treatment due to being “overwhelmed.”

Nothing says we have this under control like multiple mass burial pits on property with abandoned buildings surrounding them. Not even Baghdad Bob could spin these optics.

(04-10-2020 11:46 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Holy sh!t the Michigan governor just made it a misdemeanor punishable by a $1000 fine to even drive by yourself between 2 properties that you own in Michigan. They are asking people to rat them out if they drive up to their lake homes. I’m starting to visualize Fonzi in a leather jacket on water skis....

I'd love to see a decent defense attorney on that case. If I got that fine, I think I'd fight it just on principle.

I can sort of understand prosecuting an open bar or a large house party. But this ain't smallpox. You can't hurt anyone if you're in your own car.

(04-10-2020 11:58 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 11:46 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Holy sh!t the Michigan governor just made it a misdemeanor punishable by a $1000 fine to even drive by yourself between 2 properties that you own in Michigan. They are asking people to rat them out if they drive up to their lake homes. I’m starting to visualize Fonzi in a leather jacket on water skis....

I'd love to see a decent defense attorney on that case. If I got that fine, I think I'd fight it just on principle.

I can sort of understand prosecuting an open bar or a large house party. But this ain't smallpox. You can't hurt anyone if you're in your own car.

From my understanding the issue is more so, you pick up the virus in Detroit without knowing it, decide I'm gonna let this blow over at my lake house and then get that entire town infected when you go to the grocery store and they don't have the facilities to handle putting 25 of people on respirators.

My divorce was final on March 2nd, but we haven't sold the house yet. So, I'm stuck in quarantine with my ex-wife.

Have been using instacart to get groceries from Aldi and wearing masks. I have an old 3M 6000 series mask from when I worked at a chemical plant. Checked the cartridges on it and they are rated for viruses. Probably even more effective than the N95 masks.

(04-10-2020 01:13 PM)AeroCat Wrote:  My divorce was final on March 2nd, but we haven't sold the house yet. So, I'm stuck in quarantine with my ex-wife.

Have been using instacart to get groceries from Aldi and wearing masks. I have an old 3M 6000 series mask from when I worked at a chemical plant. Checked the cartridges on it and they are rated for viruses. Probably even more effective than the N95 masks.

Man that is awkward. Then again I know of at least a couple married couples that continued to live with each other after the divorce (both cases were for the kids). Best wishes.

(04-10-2020 11:50 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 11:43 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Unfortunately, I think NYC was a ticking time bomb for something like this. Even if strict social distancing had been mandated early on, people had to do it, and even if they wanted to it’s incredibly difficult in a place with that population and reliance on public transportation.

Even though it has been a relative disaster compared to everywhere else in the US- they have still been able to deliver the best medical treatment possible and are not having to deny treatment due to being “overwhelmed.”

Nothing says we have this under control like multiple mass burial pits on property with abandoned buildings surrounding them. Not even Baghdad Bob could spin these optics.

Man that is terrible. And I expect things to get worse on the death front in NYC for the next week or so. No way to sugar coat that for sure. However, new infection rates in NYC have been falling consistently over the last couple days so that will mean far less death in a couple weeks.

However, my point is that it’s unlikely any of those people died out on the street or in the ER waiting for treatment. The vast majority probably couldn’t make it off the vent in the ICU.

Turns out the vent or the settings that were thought to work aren’t doing the job. Most likely will require more aggressive treatment with anti-inflammatories before the vent or less aggressive vent settings when it is time for that.

Which might explain why hydroxychloroquine could work. As it is an immune modulator. Probably way less about activity against the virus and more important to control an out of whack immune/inflammatory response by the host.

Being stacked three deep. With last names written in marker on the tops of them. I’ve seen another photo from the air where there are several of these pits in NYC. At least 4 that I could see just in one frame.

I just watched a documentary on Hart Island in NY yesterday. There are over 1 MILLION people buried on that tiny island in numerous mass graves dating all the way back to just after the Civil War. Spanish Flu dead were buried there. There are also a small number of early AIDS graves there because there was so much uncertainty about the disease when it popped up they buried them on that island.

Here's a link to a map and list of cases by State updated through yesterday...

US COVID19 CASES MAP BREAKDOWN

(04-10-2020 01:16 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 01:13 PM)AeroCat Wrote:  My divorce was final on March 2nd, but we haven't sold the house yet. So, I'm stuck in quarantine with my ex-wife.

Have been using instacart to get groceries from Aldi and wearing masks. I have an old 3M 6000 series mask from when I worked at a chemical plant. Checked the cartridges on it and they are rated for viruses. Probably even more effective than the N95 masks.

Man that is awkward. Then again I know of at least a couple married couples that continued to live with each other after the divorce (both cases were for the kids). Best wishes.

Yeah...

I remember my divorce, before I moved out. Trying to continue to share a house while that was going on was not helpful.

Sorry that you are going through this.

(04-11-2020 02:38 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 01:16 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(04-10-2020 01:13 PM)AeroCat Wrote:  My divorce was final on March 2nd, but we haven't sold the house yet. So, I'm stuck in quarantine with my ex-wife.

Have been using instacart to get groceries from Aldi and wearing masks. I have an old 3M 6000 series mask from when I worked at a chemical plant. Checked the cartridges on it and they are rated for viruses. Probably even more effective than the N95 masks.

Man that is awkward. Then again I know of at least a couple married couples that continued to live with each other after the divorce (both cases were for the kids). Best wishes.

Yeah...

I remember my divorce, before I moved out. Trying to continue to share a house while that was going on was not helpful.

Sorry that you are going through this.

I guess make up sex only happens in movies? LOL