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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
IMO it is way to soon to measure the impact of the Falwell affair on the long term prospects of Liberty. The school gained its rapid growth almost exclusively from its online presence. How evangelical christians through out the country continue to see Liberty will depend on damage control. At a minimum, I would think anything having to do with Jr. will be kryptonite. His management team is firmly ensconced and will be for the forseeable future.
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
(08-26-2020 07:29 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(08-26-2020 05:39 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(08-25-2020 10:45 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  
(08-25-2020 10:39 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(08-25-2020 10:33 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  So Naive. Maybe one day you’ll understand. Until then, stay in texas.


Liberty University accepts Jerry Falwell Jr.'s resignation amid scandal

By Audrey McNamara

Updated on: August 25, 2020 / 9:34 PM / CBS News

Liberty University says it has accepted Jerry Falwell Jr.'s resignation as president following allegations of sexual impropriety. The evangelical college in Lynchburg, Virginia, said in a statement Tuesday that Falwell will no longer serve as its president and chancellor, and will step down from its board of directors, "effective immediately."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jerry-falwe...n-accepts/

Is that all you have? You don’t understand Falwell or Liberty - or Virginia. But I now have a deeper understanding that you can’t admit when you’re wrong. That is a character flaw.

Goodness gracious. Look in the mirror. Side Show Joe just burned you, and proved he knows more about what's going on in Virginia than you do. LOL! 03-lmfao

By the way, THIS is the best thing that could have ever happened to Liberty University. Liberty is a fast growing institution that has obviously out-grown the Falwell family. Now the school can cut ties with the Falwell family forever, and they don't have to feel bad about doing it. Good for Liberty! 03-thumbsup

I agree that the school should cut ties but it’s not as easy and done as all that. The Falwell’s own half the town and will continue to excercise great influence over the school and local politics. Maybe Jr. will say **** it, move to Miami with his 10.5 Million dollar parachute payment and enjoy his swinger lifestyle with his wife. I hope he does but I doubt it. His son, JFIII was being groomed to take over the school and the board was hand picked by him, there’s plenty of loyalists still there.

Also i honestly believe some on the school governing board are already aware of this and kept their mouth shut but now this is public they are acting as if they want to clean this up. We all know how things like these go down in most of the cases. **** Falwells and **** Luhbutty.
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
A large part of it is moving to FBS. If it's costing too much, there are two options:

1) Drop football and return to the CAA.

2) Find a conference to do a hostile takeover and flip to FBS. The easiest out would be the MEAC, but I suppose the same could be done to the CAA (and maybe this is how you get JMU and Delaware to FBS). I just don't see enough sufficiently attractive landing spots for the rest of the CAA, though.
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
(08-28-2020 12:37 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  A large part of it is moving to FBS. If it's costing too much, there are two options:

1) Drop football and return to the CAA.

2) Find a conference to do a hostile takeover and flip to FBS. The easiest out would be the MEAC, but I suppose the same could be done to the CAA (and maybe this is how you get JMU and Delaware to FBS). I just don't see enough sufficiently attractive landing spots for the rest of the CAA, though.

Reading between the lines is the hint and neither of those things you mentioned are going to happen. Now go get yourself some of them fine sheep and head back to your woods 05-mafia
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
Realistically, CUSA and Belt need to realign. Taking the eastern based members from each league and being the new Belt and the Western members of both being the new CUSA or calling is the new WAC. Jmho.
Would cut down drastically on travel costs and make for more fan interest/ slash establish some rivalries.
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
(08-28-2020 03:21 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  Realistically, CUSA and Belt need to realign. Taking the eastern based members from each league and being the new Belt and the Western members of both being the new CUSA or calling is the new WAC. Jmho.
Would cut down drastically on travel costs and make for more fan interest/ slash establish some rivalries.

If it were only that simple. We will see realignment one day soon. Politics & Geography will be a large part of it. I hesitate to predict what it would look like. CUSA has been very very good to Louisiana Tech and I love the Western Division. I respect the Eastern Division very much, but I just don't know what each of us bring to the table for one another. FAU, FIU, Old Dominion etc.. are all great programs but they just don't move the needle in North LA. They can all same the exact same thing about Tech in their home states. To make things worse, we have never played Marshall at home until this year. Just how is that possible?? This started as a marriage of convenience and now that's no longer the case.
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
(08-28-2020 03:21 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  Realistically, CUSA and Belt need to realign. Taking the eastern based members from each league and being the new Belt and the Western members of both being the new CUSA or calling is the new WAC. Jmho.
Would cut down drastically on travel costs and make for more fan interest/ slash establish some rivalries.


Ahmm....no. How 'bout this? Just leave it alone. It's fine. We only play two (2) eastern CUSA teams per year anyway in football, and one (1) of those 2 games is at home. Why realign everything for one (1) lousy road game? There's no guarantee everything will be perfect in a new league either.

This is much ado about nothing. 07-coffee3
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
(08-28-2020 08:27 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(08-28-2020 03:21 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  Realistically, CUSA and Belt need to realign. Taking the eastern based members from each league and being the new Belt and the Western members of both being the new CUSA or calling is the new WAC. Jmho.
Would cut down drastically on travel costs and make for more fan interest/ slash establish some rivalries.


Ahmm....no. How 'bout this? Just leave it alone. It's fine. We only play two (2) eastern CUSA teams per year anyway in football, and one (1) of those 2 games is at home. Why realign everything for one (1) lousy road game? There's no guarantee everything will be perfect in a new league either.

This is much ado about nothing. 07-coffee3

What did you modify07-coffee3
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
(08-28-2020 03:21 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  Realistically, CUSA and Belt need to realign. Taking the eastern based members from each league and being the new Belt and the Western members of both being the new CUSA or calling is the new WAC. Jmho.
Would cut down drastically on travel costs and make for more fan interest/ slash establish some rivalries.

The season kicks off in a week and you want to talk realignment?

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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
(08-29-2020 08:38 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(08-28-2020 03:21 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  Realistically, CUSA and Belt need to realign. Taking the eastern based members from each league and being the new Belt and the Western members of both being the new CUSA or calling is the new WAC. Jmho.
Would cut down drastically on travel costs and make for more fan interest/ slash establish some rivalries.

The season kicks off in a week and you want to talk realignment?

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This is a long term view and solution. Unless NT has unlimited funds, most schools will need to cut costs and tighten belts. None of us are positioned to move up; and likely never will. Thus, a league that is more compact and favorable geographically makes total sense for the future. It has been reported that Marshall’s travel expenses for 2018 was 3.2 million dollars. Gotta fix that.
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
(08-28-2020 09:51 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  
(08-28-2020 08:27 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(08-28-2020 03:21 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  Realistically, CUSA and Belt need to realign. Taking the eastern based members from each league and being the new Belt and the Western members of both being the new CUSA or calling is the new WAC. Jmho.
Would cut down drastically on travel costs and make for more fan interest/ slash establish some rivalries.


Ahmm....no. How 'bout this? Just leave it alone. It's fine. We only play two (2) eastern CUSA teams per year anyway in football, and one (1) of those 2 games is at home. Why realign everything for one (1) lousy road game? There's no guarantee everything will be perfect in a new league either.

This is much ado about nothing. 07-coffee3

What did you modify07-coffee3

Spelling. I'm real bad about typos. Problem is, I'm real anal about going back and correcting 'em. You, on the other hand, are a little psycho about "modifications". 03-lmfao
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
(08-29-2020 11:01 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  
(08-29-2020 08:38 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(08-28-2020 03:21 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  Realistically, CUSA and Belt need to realign. Taking the eastern based members from each league and being the new Belt and the Western members of both being the new CUSA or calling is the new WAC. Jmho.
Would cut down drastically on travel costs and make for more fan interest/ slash establish some rivalries.

The season kicks off in a week and you want to talk realignment?

[Image: ?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia...amp;nofb=1]

This is a long term view and solution. Unless NT has unlimited funds, most schools will need to cut costs and tighten belts. None of us are positioned to move up; and likely never will. Thus, a league that is more compact and favorable geographically makes total sense for the future. It has been reported that Marshall’s travel expenses for 2018 was 3.2 million dollars. Gotta fix that.

North Texas does not have unlimited funds, but things do not appear to be as dire for us as other universities. It was reported that UNT's athletic department was fiscally responsible and saved on expenses once COVID shut down last season. Apparently we will finish the financial year with a surplus heading into this fall.

Also, it has not been officially reported yet but, North Texas is expected to announce an enrollment increase for the fall of 2020. Last fall's enrollment was 39,193 total students. We appear have an increase of around 2.5% this fall. And, more students enrolled means more student fees for the athletic department.

Playing in a regional conference with even less media coverage than C-USA currently has is a hard "No" from North Texas. C-USA doesn't not need to realign, it just needs to get better.
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RE: Consultant: ODU's move to CUSA has cost it “a minimum of $2 million annually”
So, if ODU moved back out of CUSA, would that increase their net $2,000,000?
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(08-29-2020 06:13 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  So, if ODU moved back out of CUSA, would that increase their net $2,000,000?

Lets do it and see what happens.
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(08-29-2020 02:30 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(08-28-2020 09:51 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  
(08-28-2020 08:27 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(08-28-2020 03:21 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  Realistically, CUSA and Belt need to realign. Taking the eastern based members from each league and being the new Belt and the Western members of both being the new CUSA or calling is the new WAC. Jmho.
Would cut down drastically on travel costs and make for more fan interest/ slash establish some rivalries.


Ahmm....no. How 'bout this? Just leave it alone. It's fine. We only play two (2) eastern CUSA teams per year anyway in football, and one (1) of those 2 games is at home. Why realign everything for one (1) lousy road game? There's no guarantee everything will be perfect in a new league either.

This is much ado about nothing. 07-coffee3

What did you modify07-coffee3

Spelling. I'm real bad about typos. Problem is, I'm real anal about going back and correcting 'em. You, on the other hand, are a little psycho about "modifications". 03-lmfao

I appreciate attention to detail. There is nothing wrong with being a little OCD. I hope you and your family fared well in the hurricane.
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