(04-03-2020 07:54 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:14 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Bill Gates wants population control. Hence his crazy push for the entire world to be chipped and vaccinated. He’s admitted as much.

I get he’s an atheist but I thought everyone had a decent idea of how the Bible ends. This is right up with creating AI and naming it Skynet

XACLY!

one has nothing to do with the other....

talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.....he's the fk'n poster child...

I've said it too many times....the internutz is the 21st century version of 666...whatever the fk that means other than we're breathing on the 'tick tock'....

(04-03-2020 04:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  There is no doubt this is coming right around the corner. Gates may be the one creating and introducing the system of the mark of the beast, but he may not be the one who actually enforces it in the end.

Bible prophecy sets it apart from all other religions. Its a central theme and evidence of its authenticity woven into the Bible from Genesis through Revelation. over 2500yearsa go it laid out incredibly specific and detail about a series of world Kingdom that have all come and gone just as predicted.

The sad thing is 2/2rd of American chruch won't even talk, teach or even speak about it. The Bible is literally 1/3rd prophecy, much of which has already came and past. Its a major focus of God's word but 70% of Christians are completely in the dark about it.

Bible prophecy is actually one of the strongest tools of Biblical apologetics we have. Most people hear "bible prophecy" though and they just think about tribulation, 2nd coming, ect. A large part of Bible prophecy is really apologetics that show how the Bible is divinely inspired and not conceived by man. God the Father and Jesus both say in the OT and NT that they tell us these things ahead of time, so we will know when they happen that He is real and not doubt or be double minded in our faith. The Bible foretold in great detail all about the history of Israel, Jesus, the church age, the return of modern Israel and their continued rejection of Jesus as a nation, and all the madness over the city of Jerusalem in Middle eastern and world politics.

Bible prophecy is the single strongest tool and witness that the Bible is God's Word. Examples like Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, Isaiah 49, Daniel 2, 7 & 8 are powerful witnesses. As powerful as those full chapter examples are, some of the best evidence is scatted all throughout the bible in brief passages of prophecy.

Not only can it convert non believers, it can strengthen and change a believers faith forever because it removes all doubt. That is exactly why its there, the strengthen and grow a believers faith and remove their doubts or double mindedness.

Sounds ominous as well as imminent.

The only thing that proves the Bible true is the Bible itself, not very convincing. Believe what you want but please stop trying to pass the Bible as fact.

(04-03-2020 09:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:54 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:14 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Bill Gates wants population control. Hence his crazy push for the entire world to be chipped and vaccinated. He’s admitted as much.

I get he’s an atheist but I thought everyone had a decent idea of how the Bible ends. This is right up with creating AI and naming it Skynet

XACLY!

one has nothing to do with the other....

talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.....he's the fk'n poster child...

I've said it too many times....the internutz is the 21st century version of 666...whatever the fk that means other than we're breathing on the 'tick tock'....

Yep. Wolf in sheep’s clothing.......the guy who is into eugenics wants to microchip everyone.....what’s wrong with that picture??

(04-03-2020 07:54 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:14 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Bill Gates wants population control. Hence his crazy push for the entire world to be chipped and vaccinated. He’s admitted as much.

I get he’s an atheist but I thought everyone had a decent idea of how the Bible ends. This is right up with creating AI and naming it Skynet

I read that he is a church goer. But progs are progs.

(04-03-2020 09:53 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 09:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:54 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:14 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Bill Gates wants population control. Hence his crazy push for the entire world to be chipped and vaccinated. He’s admitted as much.

I get he’s an atheist but I thought everyone had a decent idea of how the Bible ends. This is right up with creating AI and naming it Skynet

XACLY!

one has nothing to do with the other....

talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.....he's the fk'n poster child...

I've said it too many times....the internutz is the 21st century version of 666...whatever the fk that means other than we're breathing on the 'tick tock'....

Yep. Wolf in sheep’s clothing.......the guy who is into eugenics wants to microchip everyone.....what’s wrong with that picture??

a copy of 1984 and that poker chip that 'stole' DOS is under his slimy and sweat filled pillow...

(04-03-2020 10:10 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 09:53 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 09:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:54 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:14 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Bill Gates wants population control. Hence his crazy push for the entire world to be chipped and vaccinated. He’s admitted as much.

I get he’s an atheist but I thought everyone had a decent idea of how the Bible ends. This is right up with creating AI and naming it Skynet

XACLY!

one has nothing to do with the other....

talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.....he's the fk'n poster child...

I've said it too many times....the internutz is the 21st century version of 666...whatever the fk that means other than we're breathing on the 'tick tock'....

Yep. Wolf in sheep’s clothing.......the guy who is into eugenics wants to microchip everyone.....what’s wrong with that picture??

a copy of 1984 and that poker chip that 'stole' DOS is under his slimy and sweat filled pillow...

There is the potential for a lot of positive and a lot of negative paradigm shifts to come out of this event. We could see all of the world's government spend what is needed to be spent and then have everyone excuse that debt by the lowest common denominator in essence truly creating a universal write off that leaves them all positioned where they were prior to the crisis. And we could see infrastructure and vital products once again returned to locations internal the United States. I would consider all of those to be good paradigm shifts.

Or we could go to the dark side using the crisis to force a cashless society where everyone's funds could be manipulated electronically by the government. Or see the virus used as an excuse to nationalize healthcare thereby relieving the insurance companies less than a decade short of their projected payouts of end of life issues for Boomers. And we could see the state of crisis itself used to dramatically enhance the control and reach of the Federal Government.

Either way I feel that the public's will be bypassed in the name of expediency.

Already they are saying if you aren't set up with direct deposit for the IRS that you may not get your stimulus until August, and they are encouraging people to set up direct deposit online (the last damn place I would want to give account information). Now this could be innocuous enough if it weren't for the fact that such arrangements create a double window in which alleged overpayments can be withdrawn, or funds attached more directly if the IRS screws up and says you owe more than you paid. It's a much riskier proposition than just writing them a check, or receiving one that you deposit yourself.

The push has been for cashless here for a long long time within the government itself. The resistance has been strong, and should be. You lose all privacy and independence when you lose cash.

What's worse is that such a system and the current crisis could easily be used to push a Pan American and Pan European common electronic currency or even eventually a world currency. And the same corporate banks and the same Central Banking system would control it. No Thanks!

So far the alarming things to me are the wake up call for lack of essential supplies due to "globalism" in production, and outsourcing specifically, and the lack of drills to reveal to the emergency response mechanism the errors in their implementation models.

So we are long on miscalculations and chain of command issues at the state and local level, and short on essential materials, and none of that is Trump's fault, he's just the poor bastard that has to deal with decades of government bureaucratic cluster shucking.

But the enemies of freedom are long on using the situation to exploit the people.

We'll see how we come out of this but I think at best it's going to be mixed. We will likely see the necessity of controlling production for emergency reasons from within our country, but I fear in the process of acting on that resolve more of our rights and freedoms are about to be eroded in the name of protection.

You know one thing that puzzles me is that many atheists believe that there's a devil and hell but will not even in their death bed believe that there's the opposite of that, God and heaven. The idea of Satan and hell comes from the Bible so how can one believe in one and not the other.

It is easy to be a Christian but it is very hard to live like one. Perhaps that's what keeps many from accepting Christ. It is too much fun living in sin. I know I'm an expert in sin but I've been saved through his blood. Amen.

(04-03-2020 10:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 10:10 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 09:53 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 09:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:54 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  I get he’s an atheist but I thought everyone had a decent idea of how the Bible ends. This is right up with creating AI and naming it Skynet

XACLY!

one has nothing to do with the other....

talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.....he's the fk'n poster child...

I've said it too many times....the internutz is the 21st century version of 666...whatever the fk that means other than we're breathing on the 'tick tock'....

Yep. Wolf in sheep’s clothing.......the guy who is into eugenics wants to microchip everyone.....what’s wrong with that picture??

a copy of 1984 and that poker chip that 'stole' DOS is under his slimy and sweat filled pillow...

There is the potential for a lot of positive and a lot of negative paradigm shifts to come out of this event. We could see all of the world's government spend what is needed to be spent and then have everyone excuse that debt by the lowest common denominator in essence truly creating a universal write off that leaves them all positioned where they were prior to the crisis. And we could see infrastructure and vital products once again returned to locations internal the United States. I would consider all of those to be good paradigm shifts.

Or we could go to the dark side using the crisis to force a cashless society where everyone's funds could be manipulated electronically by the government. Or see the virus used as an excuse to nationalize healthcare thereby relieving the insurance companies less than a decade short of their projected payouts of end of life issues for Boomers. And we could see the state of crisis itself used to dramatically enhance the control and reach of the Federal Government.

Either way I feel that the public's will be bypassed in the name of expediency.

Already they are saying if you aren't set up with direct deposit for the IRS that you may not get your stimulus until August, and they are encouraging people to set up direct deposit online (the last damn place I would want to give account information). Now this could be innocuous enough if it weren't for the fact that such arrangements create a double window in which alleged overpayments can be withdrawn, or funds attached more directly if the IRS screws up and says you owe more than you paid. It's a much riskier proposition than just writing them a check, or receiving one that you deposit yourself.

The push has been for cashless here for a long long time within the government itself. The resistance has been strong, and should be. You lose all privacy and independence when you lose cash.

What's worse is that such a system and the current crisis could easily be used to push a Pan American and Pan European common electronic currency or even eventually a world currency. And the same corporate banks and the same Central Banking system would control it. No Thanks!

So far the alarming things to me are the wake up call for lack of essential supplies due to "globalism" in production, and outsourcing specifically, and the lack of drills to reveal to the emergency response mechanism the errors in their implementation models.

So we are long on miscalculations and chain of command issues at the state and local level, and short on essential materials, and none of that is Trump's fault, he's just the poor bastard that has to deal with decades of government bureaucratic cluster shucking.

But the enemies of freedom are long on using the situation to exploit the people.

We'll see how we come out of this but I think at best it's going to be mixed. We will likely see the necessity of controlling production for emergency reasons from within our country, but I fear in the process of acting on that resolve more of our rights and freedoms are about to be eroded in the name of protection.

I had a buddy that passed a couple of years ago that was mensa quality like you.....we discussed the 'grid and radar' more times than you can imagine....

everything you stated above should worry anyone moving forward more than this self-induced panic....

if DJT doesn't make a move soon with the finga being applied to the Fauci's of bs, you won't see me post again....going silent would not be anything I'm unfamiliar with in 'relativity'....

I'm trying to stay in the 'half-full' camp....it's not easy right now based on what I'm seeing in the field.....

(04-03-2020 11:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 10:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 10:10 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 09:53 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 09:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  XACLY!

one has nothing to do with the other....

talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.....he's the fk'n poster child...

I've said it too many times....the internutz is the 21st century version of 666...whatever the fk that means other than we're breathing on the 'tick tock'....

Yep. Wolf in sheep’s clothing.......the guy who is into eugenics wants to microchip everyone.....what’s wrong with that picture??

a copy of 1984 and that poker chip that 'stole' DOS is under his slimy and sweat filled pillow...

There is the potential for a lot of positive and a lot of negative paradigm shifts to come out of this event. We could see all of the world's government spend what is needed to be spent and then have everyone excuse that debt by the lowest common denominator in essence truly creating a universal write off that leaves them all positioned where they were prior to the crisis. And we could see infrastructure and vital products once again returned to locations internal the United States. I would consider all of those to be good paradigm shifts.

Or we could go to the dark side using the crisis to force a cashless society where everyone's funds could be manipulated electronically by the government. Or see the virus used as an excuse to nationalize healthcare thereby relieving the insurance companies less than a decade short of their projected payouts of end of life issues for Boomers. And we could see the state of crisis itself used to dramatically enhance the control and reach of the Federal Government.

Either way I feel that the public's will be bypassed in the name of expediency.

Already they are saying if you aren't set up with direct deposit for the IRS that you may not get your stimulus until August, and they are encouraging people to set up direct deposit online (the last damn place I would want to give account information). Now this could be innocuous enough if it weren't for the fact that such arrangements create a double window in which alleged overpayments can be withdrawn, or funds attached more directly if the IRS screws up and says you owe more than you paid. It's a much riskier proposition than just writing them a check, or receiving one that you deposit yourself.

The push has been for cashless here for a long long time within the government itself. The resistance has been strong, and should be. You lose all privacy and independence when you lose cash.

What's worse is that such a system and the current crisis could easily be used to push a Pan American and Pan European common electronic currency or even eventually a world currency. And the same corporate banks and the same Central Banking system would control it. No Thanks!

So far the alarming things to me are the wake up call for lack of essential supplies due to "globalism" in production, and outsourcing specifically, and the lack of drills to reveal to the emergency response mechanism the errors in their implementation models.

So we are long on miscalculations and chain of command issues at the state and local level, and short on essential materials, and none of that is Trump's fault, he's just the poor bastard that has to deal with decades of government bureaucratic cluster shucking.

But the enemies of freedom are long on using the situation to exploit the people.

We'll see how we come out of this but I think at best it's going to be mixed. We will likely see the necessity of controlling production for emergency reasons from within our country, but I fear in the process of acting on that resolve more of our rights and freedoms are about to be eroded in the name of protection.

I had a buddy that passed a couple of years ago that was mensa quality like you.....we discussed the 'grid and radar' more times than you can imagine....

everything you stated above should worry anyone moving forward more than this self-induced panic....

if DJT doesn't make a move soon with the finga being applied to the Fauci's of bs, you won't see me post again....going silent would not be anything I'm unfamiliar with in 'relativity'....

I'm trying to stay in the 'half-full' camp....it's not easy right now based on what I'm seeing in the field.....

They need for us to have to transact business online. They know who we are by our IP addresses, but they don't have us pigeonholed unless they see our purchases and monitor the electronic transactions. The banks are simply too ponderous and the database systems to dissimilar.

I want you to note the census. This year your "private" responses were forced online where your IP will be matched up to address and it forces people who were off the grid but have to comply in order not to be fined or worse to have to give them information in a manner that saves them oodles of man hours of piecing your old mail in form to the rest of your data.

So now the sorry mothers are not only spying on us, and detailing as much information as possible, but they are forcing us to do it in ways that save them man hours.

My mom who is now on the backside of her 80's had to use me to log her information since she doesn't own a computer. If she had not she would have been in violation by no fault of her own. She tried their damned phone number and they were closed due to the virus, just like social security and don't even think about the wait to talk to the IRS.

(04-03-2020 09:53 PM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 04:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  There is no doubt this is coming right around the corner. Gates may be the one creating and introducing the system of the mark of the beast, but he may not be the one who actually enforces it in the end.

Bible prophecy sets it apart from all other religions. Its a central theme and evidence of its authenticity woven into the Bible from Genesis through Revelation. over 2500yearsa go it laid out incredibly specific and detail about a series of world Kingdom that have all come and gone just as predicted.

The sad thing is 2/2rd of American chruch won't even talk, teach or even speak about it. The Bible is literally 1/3rd prophecy, much of which has already came and past. Its a major focus of God's word but 70% of Christians are completely in the dark about it.

Bible prophecy is actually one of the strongest tools of Biblical apologetics we have. Most people hear "bible prophecy" though and they just think about tribulation, 2nd coming, ect. A large part of Bible prophecy is really apologetics that show how the Bible is divinely inspired and not conceived by man. God the Father and Jesus both say in the OT and NT that they tell us these things ahead of time, so we will know when they happen that He is real and not doubt or be double minded in our faith. The Bible foretold in great detail all about the history of Israel, Jesus, the church age, the return of modern Israel and their continued rejection of Jesus as a nation, and all the madness over the city of Jerusalem in Middle eastern and world politics.

Bible prophecy is the single strongest tool and witness that the Bible is God's Word. Examples like Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, Isaiah 49, Daniel 2, 7 & 8 are powerful witnesses. As powerful as those full chapter examples are, some of the best evidence is scatted all throughout the bible in brief passages of prophecy.

Not only can it convert non believers, it can strengthen and change a believers faith forever because it removes all doubt. That is exactly why its there, the strengthen and grow a believers faith and remove their doubts or double mindedness.

Sounds ominous as well as imminent.

The only thing that proves the Bible true is the Bible itself, not very convincing. Believe what you want but please stop trying to pass the Bible as fact.

Well with all due respect that is a very ignorant comment.

We don't believe the Bible is real just because it says so, so does every other religious book in the world. I was a scoffer just like you for most of my life, and it wasn't until I put away my own ignorant blind assumptions (just like you are doing) and actually read the Bible and looked at the evince myself that I became a believer.

What separates the Bible is that the Bible actually told 2500 years of Jewish history before it ever came to pass, told us of Jesus, His crucifixion and Resurrection, the Roman destruction of Israel in 70, the rise of the church age, the church being Gentiles instead of Jews, and countless other things all written in the OT centuries before any of it came to pass. Its even foretold how Israel would be totally destroyed in 70 AD, the Jews scattered across the whole earth continuing to reject Jesus as their Messiah, and then 2000 years later a secular nation of Israel would be reborn in the Holy Land in the final years just before the 2nd coming. We have full copies of these OT books that predate these events by multiple centuries, so we know these things were not just made up after they happened.

There is nothing more absurd in the world than a person saying they don't find the evidence convincing when they never even bothered to look at the evidence in the first place. And that is all you did here.

You have instead just blindly decided its not real, and then choose to pass off your blind assumptions as fact. Which makes your entire post grossly hypocritical.

another thread that aged well…

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