Have a great football team, but middling in all the other sports.

Or

Be above average to great in all the other sports, but middling in football.


I kinda feel like option B is what I would want, but realize football pays the bills. Tough call.

Sounds like you are asking if you would rather be Clemson or Kansas...?

To keep the comparison in the ACC; Clemson or UNC?

great football team.

I don't care if none of the other sports teams EVER win if the football team is playing for a national championship every other year.

Option #1 no contest.

I think if you pose that question to the university presidents you would get a different answer than you would from fans. The reality is that only a very few schools can consistently be competing for a national championship in football, but if you count the number of schools whose fans believe they can, that number would at least quadruple.

(04-03-2020 08:43 AM)ken d Wrote:  I think if you pose that question to the university presidents you would get a different answer than you would from fans. The reality is that only a very few schools can consistently be competing for a national championship in football, but if you count the number of schools whose fans believe they can, that number would at least quadruple.

Here's the thing: win 10+ games most years and an occasional New Year's Six bowl - even if you never actually make the playoff, you can sell that as "competing for national championships" in football... fans WILL support that.

By contrast, go 4-8 to 6-6 most years in football while winning trophy cabinets full of championships in women's field hockey, soccer, rowing, tennis, golf, even lacrosse - the president will be happy and maybe a few wealthy alumni will donate, but the average fan will not care and will not buy tickets or support that program at all.

Basketball is a tweener - you get SOME fan support, but it's measure in thousands rather than tens of thousands. (I imagine Lacrosse support is measured in hundreds* - though I don't have accurate Lacrosse attendance figures; tennis attendance might be in the dozens?).

* OK, I'm going too far... the Lacrosse national championships often draw around 30,000+ fans.
2018 Attendance: 30,616 semi-finals; 29,455 finals
The NCAA lists the 2019 Tennis Championship attendance at 6,652 fans.

The next closest collegiate sport to viability is baseball. After that absolutely NOTHING ELSE is close no matter how good you are in it or which gender plays it. Baseball actually turns a profit at LSU and a teeny tiny hand full of other locations. And to me that is the ultimate measure of fan support: financial success and viability.

So when it comes to fielding teams that actually move the needle among the public or even the student body quite frankly, that would be football (huge gap) men's basketball (huge gap) baseball (fall into a black hole never to return)

(04-02-2020 11:35 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Option #1 no contest.

Me too. Elite football all the way.

"Corona means “crown” in Spanish, so Virginia Tech should be safe."

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(04-03-2020 03:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  The next closest collegiate sport to viability is baseball. After that absolutely NOTHING ELSE is close no matter how good you are in it or which gender plays it. Baseball actually turns a profit at LSU and a teeny tiny hand full of other locations. And to me that is the ultimate measure of fan support: financial success and viability.

So when it comes to fielding teams that actually move the needle among the public or even the student body quite frankly, that would be football (huge gap) men's basketball (huge gap) baseball (fall into a black hole never to return)

I lived in Baton Rouge for 36 years.

There are no more passionate college baseball fans than Tigah fans.

They fill up 10,000 seat Alex Box Stadium on a regular basis, take over Omaha whenever LSU makes the College World Series and travel in big groups to most away games.

(04-03-2020 03:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  The next closest collegiate sport to viability is baseball. After that absolutely NOTHING ELSE is close no matter how good you are in it or which gender plays it. Baseball actually turns a profit at LSU and a teeny tiny hand full of other locations. And to me that is the ultimate measure of fan support: financial success and viability.

So when it comes to fielding teams that actually move the needle among the public or even the student body quite frankly, that would be football (huge gap) men's basketball (huge gap) baseball (fall into a black hole never to return)

I lived in Baton Rouge for 36 years.

There are no more passionate college baseball fans than Tigah fans.

They fill up 10,000 seat Alex Box Stadium on a regular basis, take over Omaha whenever LSU makes the College World Series and travel in big groups to most away games.

Speaking strictly as a fan... option B. I do enjoy football but I enjoy the other sports like baseball, basketball and wrestling as well. I like some of the others in moderate doses.

Trick question for SOME.

IF you are Stanford and you are so rich you don't need football money, you have the option (actually you can be good at all).

But if you are a poor school (football $$$ wise), you can't afford to keep other sports competitive for long without football money.


FSU doesn't have the $$$ for this option. They HAVE to be good in football to keep other sports at a high level. If FSU doesn't turn football around soon, it will discover first hand.

(04-06-2020 08:52 AM)nole Wrote:  Trick question for SOME.

IF you are Stanford and you are so rich you don't need football money, you have the option (actually you can be good at all).

But if you are a poor school (football $$$ wise), you can't afford to keep other sports competitive for long without football money.


FSU doesn't have the $$$ for this option. They HAVE to be good in football to keep other sports at a high level. If FSU doesn't turn football around soon, it will discover first hand.

We have a winner!

Anyone who doesn't answer #1 in this day and age is brain dead.

The third option isn't listed. Have a national championship winning coach in both major sports.

(04-08-2020 08:55 AM)esayem Wrote:  The third option isn't listed. Have a national championship winning coach in both major sports.

Texas thanks you for your contribution?

football.....no doubt about it.

Football