(04-03-2020 11:37 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 01:20 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  What about all those American doctors and scientist all over MSM that said the mask were useless in the last 3-8 weeks. Only useful for doctors so they don't infect their patients.

Fake News?

Not necessarily. Now that I think about it is seems to be semantics. A regular mask is to prevent a person that is already sick from passing COVID, it won't prevent you from catching it as the virus can pass through the mask. I guess it's now become, well let's do it even though it isn't the perfect answer, it's better than doing nothing.

https://twitter.com/Athenasaints/status/...3576579079

HOW SO

(04-03-2020 12:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:07 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 03:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Can they become better? Sure , but the sinks never turn on or off in a timely matter.

mostly because we don't demand that they do.

Quote:The pay toilet obstacle is people choosing not to use it and simply going wherever they feel like instead.
Cleaning isn't an issue if the facilities were all stainless steel. Then you could just pressure wash them like heads in the Navy.

Part of the needed cultural change... as a health issue, I'd make that a crime with a hefty fine. be responsible for your bodily fluids. Pay toilets was just an example/option... have a free public one cleaned once a day and a pay version cleaned automatically after each use. Redesign toilets so there is little or nothing to touch or spread fluids on to... or sure, pressure wash them... that was the thought on the pay toilets. As I undersand it, there are some in Japan that basically spin a wheel... you use the front half and the back half is being cleaned... when you leave, it spins around and the next person has a clean 'seat'.

I'm not proposing a single solution... that's for engineers...

but all you seem to be doing is saying 'none of that can be done'

If that's what you believe then fine... I'm sure some people thought having running toilets INSIDE your home was a crazy idea at one point.

Why dont you just ask your government to give you a list of everything they think you can and cannot do? Maybe they can tell you how to wipe your ass, the correct way. How many sheets of paper you can use without being fined.

I've never seen a person so hellbent on having their government defined every day living. Like you seem to be OK with. Is that just something you grown use to from making a career out of the government?

We have enough rules and laws without dictating how we shiit

Are you speaking to me?

Who said a damn thing about any of this involving the government?

'Cultural change' by definition doesn't come from government or laws... the only law I mentioned was one already on the books... public urination... and I don't believe that people (other than morons and sociopaths) would resort to public urination rather than use a clean toilet.

I'm really kinda gobsmacked that a few of you are so adamantly against a society that prefers clean toilets, people not sneezing on your food, kids not wiping their boogers on your pizza or sick people coughing into your face.

(04-03-2020 11:37 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 01:20 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  What about all those American doctors and scientist all over MSM that said the mask were useless in the last 3-8 weeks. Only useful for doctors so they don't infect their patients.

Fake News?

Not necessarily. Now that I think about it is seems to be semantics. A regular mask is to prevent a person that is already sick from passing COVID, it won't prevent you from catching it as the virus can pass through the mask. I guess it's now become, well let's do it even though it isn't the perfect answer, it's better than doing nothing.

https://twitter.com/Physicsastrono9/stat...8085365760

BAD BREATH

(04-03-2020 12:34 PM)green Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 11:37 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 01:20 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  What about all those American doctors and scientist all over MSM that said the mask were useless in the last 3-8 weeks. Only useful for doctors so they don't infect their patients.

Fake News?

Not necessarily. Now that I think about it is seems to be semantics. A regular mask is to prevent a person that is already sick from passing COVID, it won't prevent you from catching it as the virus can pass through the mask. I guess it's now become, well let's do it even though it isn't the perfect answer, it's better than doing nothing.

https://twitter.com/Athenasaints/status/...3576579079

HOW SO

Well this could be fun. What other words could be substituted for mask / no mask.

(04-03-2020 11:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 11:46 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  also as I've said... it is natural for people to stay more distant from others wearing masks

What's kind of ironic, IMO, is that I've witnessed people wearing mask actually touching their faces more because of the mask. Kind of defeats the purpose. Let's not talk about gloves. Same applies with people wearing gloves and eating chips/touching face. I guess the two may give a false sense of safety.

it's amazing how tear ducts get zero mention....

I'm a snot factory at times and myopic.....it's beyond stupid for someone to not have to adjust to a natural consequence of 'their' genes....

I'm beyond in the 'wtfe' category at this point....

the human body is an incubator.....some win, some lose...

all one can do is practice best method for themselves and others.....

THE CLOCK NEVER STOPS THE TICK TOCK

think about when 'they' begin targeting specifics due to further understanding how the genome works....this bs will look like a walk in the fk'n park with pepe the pup or muh kitty....

MATTER OF TIME

(04-03-2020 12:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:07 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 03:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Can they become better? Sure , but the sinks never turn on or off in a timely matter.

mostly because we don't demand that they do.

Quote:The pay toilet obstacle is people choosing not to use it and simply going wherever they feel like instead.
Cleaning isn't an issue if the facilities were all stainless steel. Then you could just pressure wash them like heads in the Navy.

Part of the needed cultural change... as a health issue, I'd make that a crime with a hefty fine. be responsible for your bodily fluids. Pay toilets was just an example/option... have a free public one cleaned once a day and a pay version cleaned automatically after each use. Redesign toilets so there is little or nothing to touch or spread fluids on to... or sure, pressure wash them... that was the thought on the pay toilets. As I undersand it, there are some in Japan that basically spin a wheel... you use the front half and the back half is being cleaned... when you leave, it spins around and the next person has a clean 'seat'.

I'm not proposing a single solution... that's for engineers...

but all you seem to be doing is saying 'none of that can be done'

If that's what you believe then fine... I'm sure some people thought having running toilets INSIDE your home was a crazy idea at one point.

Why dont you just ask your government to give you a list of everything they think you can and cannot do? Maybe they can tell you how to wipe your ass, the correct way. How many sheets of paper you can use without being fined.

I've never seen a person so hellbent on having their government defined every day living. Like you seem to be OK with. Is that just something you grown use to from making a career out of the government?

We have enough rules and laws without dictating how we shiit

what I can't figure out....he's an intelligent individual.....

I'm seeing some smart folk turn into 'huh' by the hour at this point....

I'm dumbfounded, but hardly surprised.....and it's depressing and sucks balls....

(04-03-2020 07:31 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 12:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:07 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 03:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Can they become better? Sure , but the sinks never turn on or off in a timely matter.

mostly because we don't demand that they do.

Quote:The pay toilet obstacle is people choosing not to use it and simply going wherever they feel like instead.
Cleaning isn't an issue if the facilities were all stainless steel. Then you could just pressure wash them like heads in the Navy.

Part of the needed cultural change... as a health issue, I'd make that a crime with a hefty fine. be responsible for your bodily fluids. Pay toilets was just an example/option... have a free public one cleaned once a day and a pay version cleaned automatically after each use. Redesign toilets so there is little or nothing to touch or spread fluids on to... or sure, pressure wash them... that was the thought on the pay toilets. As I undersand it, there are some in Japan that basically spin a wheel... you use the front half and the back half is being cleaned... when you leave, it spins around and the next person has a clean 'seat'.

I'm not proposing a single solution... that's for engineers...

but all you seem to be doing is saying 'none of that can be done'

If that's what you believe then fine... I'm sure some people thought having running toilets INSIDE your home was a crazy idea at one point.

Why dont you just ask your government to give you a list of everything they think you can and cannot do? Maybe they can tell you how to wipe your ass, the correct way. How many sheets of paper you can use without being fined.

I've never seen a person so hellbent on having their government defined every day living. Like you seem to be OK with. Is that just something you grown use to from making a career out of the government?

We have enough rules and laws without dictating how we shiit

what I can't figure out....he's an intelligent individual.....

I'm seeing some smart folk turn into 'huh' by the hour at this point....

I'm dumbfounded, but hardly surprised.....and it's depressing and sucks balls....

Fear

(04-03-2020 08:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:31 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 12:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:07 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 03:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Can they become better? Sure , but the sinks never turn on or off in a timely matter.

mostly because we don't demand that they do.

Quote:The pay toilet obstacle is people choosing not to use it and simply going wherever they feel like instead.
Cleaning isn't an issue if the facilities were all stainless steel. Then you could just pressure wash them like heads in the Navy.

Part of the needed cultural change... as a health issue, I'd make that a crime with a hefty fine. be responsible for your bodily fluids. Pay toilets was just an example/option... have a free public one cleaned once a day and a pay version cleaned automatically after each use. Redesign toilets so there is little or nothing to touch or spread fluids on to... or sure, pressure wash them... that was the thought on the pay toilets. As I undersand it, there are some in Japan that basically spin a wheel... you use the front half and the back half is being cleaned... when you leave, it spins around and the next person has a clean 'seat'.

I'm not proposing a single solution... that's for engineers...

but all you seem to be doing is saying 'none of that can be done'

If that's what you believe then fine... I'm sure some people thought having running toilets INSIDE your home was a crazy idea at one point.

Why dont you just ask your government to give you a list of everything they think you can and cannot do? Maybe they can tell you how to wipe your ass, the correct way. How many sheets of paper you can use without being fined.

I've never seen a person so hellbent on having their government defined every day living. Like you seem to be OK with. Is that just something you grown use to from making a career out of the government?

We have enough rules and laws without dictating how we shiit

what I can't figure out....he's an intelligent individual.....

I'm seeing some smart folk turn into 'huh' by the hour at this point....

I'm dumbfounded, but hardly surprised.....and it's depressing and sucks balls....

Fear

YUP....

then the next phase becomes mob rules and slaughter....

I know you know who loses that version.....and it dayum sure isn't J-law that leads or wins that battle.....

(04-02-2020 04:20 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:07 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 03:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Can they become better? Sure , but the sinks never turn on or off in a timely matter.

mostly because we don't demand that they do.

Quote:The pay toilet obstacle is people choosing not to use it and simply going wherever they feel like instead.
Cleaning isn't an issue if the facilities were all stainless steel. Then you could just pressure wash them like heads in the Navy.

Part of the needed cultural change... as a health issue, I'd make that a crime with a hefty fine. be responsible for your bodily fluids. Pay toilets was just an example/option... have a free public one cleaned once a day and a pay version cleaned automatically after each use. Redesign toilets so there is little or nothing to touch or spread fluids on to... or sure, pressure wash them... that was the thought on the pay toilets. As I undersand it, there are some in Japan that basically spin a wheel... you use the front half and the back half is being cleaned... when you leave, it spins around and the next person has a clean 'seat'.

I'm not proposing a single solution... that's for engineers...

but all you seem to be doing is saying 'none of that can be done'

If that's what you believe then fine... I'm sure some people thought having running toilets INSIDE your home was a crazy idea at one point.

No, I'm just wanting to know that if we import something from another culture that we don't lose something fundamental in our own. Because I can be just as flippant as your bolded response

Don't worry the wearing of masks can never be mainstream here. Cops are trained to shoot people entering stores with masks on. Old habits die hard, and so might we all!

But as far as being Japanese goes their women are perfectly happy being women and that counts for a helluva lot, mask or no mask!

(04-03-2020 08:51 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 08:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:31 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 12:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:07 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  mostly because we don't demand that they do.


Part of the needed cultural change... as a health issue, I'd make that a crime with a hefty fine. be responsible for your bodily fluids. Pay toilets was just an example/option... have a free public one cleaned once a day and a pay version cleaned automatically after each use. Redesign toilets so there is little or nothing to touch or spread fluids on to... or sure, pressure wash them... that was the thought on the pay toilets. As I undersand it, there are some in Japan that basically spin a wheel... you use the front half and the back half is being cleaned... when you leave, it spins around and the next person has a clean 'seat'.

I'm not proposing a single solution... that's for engineers...

but all you seem to be doing is saying 'none of that can be done'

If that's what you believe then fine... I'm sure some people thought having running toilets INSIDE your home was a crazy idea at one point.

Why dont you just ask your government to give you a list of everything they think you can and cannot do? Maybe they can tell you how to wipe your ass, the correct way. How many sheets of paper you can use without being fined.

I've never seen a person so hellbent on having their government defined every day living. Like you seem to be OK with. Is that just something you grown use to from making a career out of the government?

We have enough rules and laws without dictating how we shiit

what I can't figure out....he's an intelligent individual.....

I'm seeing some smart folk turn into 'huh' by the hour at this point....

I'm dumbfounded, but hardly surprised.....and it's depressing and sucks balls....

Fear

YUP....

then the next phase becomes mob rules and slaughter....

I know you know who loses that version.....and it dayum sure isn't J-law that leads or wins that battle.....

The CDC recommends that Americans walk around with their left thumb up their arse. According to CDC, this will limit face to hand contact by 50% preventing transmission to anywhere from 5 to 500,000,000 people Expect law enforcement to fine those that dont to be comply $1000, unless you are essential/expendable. Sticking your thumb up some else's arse is acceptable in New York, California, and Washington.

Govt employees should not be affected due to premptive voluntary compliance policies currently inplace.

(04-04-2020 12:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 08:51 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 08:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:31 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 12:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Why dont you just ask your government to give you a list of everything they think you can and cannot do? Maybe they can tell you how to wipe your ass, the correct way. How many sheets of paper you can use without being fined.

I've never seen a person so hellbent on having their government defined every day living. Like you seem to be OK with. Is that just something you grown use to from making a career out of the government?

We have enough rules and laws without dictating how we shiit

what I can't figure out....he's an intelligent individual.....

I'm seeing some smart folk turn into 'huh' by the hour at this point....

I'm dumbfounded, but hardly surprised.....and it's depressing and sucks balls....

Fear

YUP....

then the next phase becomes mob rules and slaughter....

I know you know who loses that version.....and it dayum sure isn't J-law that leads or wins that battle.....

The CDC recommends that Americans walk around with their left thumb up their arse. According to CDC, this will limit face to hand contact by 50% preventing transmission to anywhere from 5 to 500,000,000 people Expect law enforcement to fine those that dont to be comply $1000, unless you are essential/expendable. Sticking your thumb up some else's arse is acceptable in New York, California, and Washington.

Govt employees should not be affected due to premptive voluntary compliance policies currently inplace.

Ah, but there are two things the CDC needs to reconsider. 1. You'll need a manicure to prevent thumbnails from tearing the anal wall and causing infection. A rectal fissure is a nasty thing to have. 2. Your anus receives viruses as well as any orifice on your face.

So for all of the educated putzes in the world who still suck their thumbs might I suggest a Chinese Finger Trap. Insert your pointer into each side of the tube and you won't touch or scratch anything and you will appear to be exactly what you are, a fool.

(04-04-2020 01:23 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-04-2020 12:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 08:51 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 08:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:31 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  what I can't figure out....he's an intelligent individual.....

I'm seeing some smart folk turn into 'huh' by the hour at this point....

I'm dumbfounded, but hardly surprised.....and it's depressing and sucks balls....

Fear

YUP....

then the next phase becomes mob rules and slaughter....

I know you know who loses that version.....and it dayum sure isn't J-law that leads or wins that battle.....

The CDC recommends that Americans walk around with their left thumb up their arse. According to CDC, this will limit face to hand contact by 50% preventing transmission to anywhere from 5 to 500,000,000 people Expect law enforcement to fine those that dont to be comply $1000, unless you are essential/expendable. Sticking your thumb up some else's arse is acceptable in New York, California, and Washington.

Govt employees should not be affected due to premptive voluntary compliance policies currently inplace.

Ah, but there are two things the CDC needs to reconsider. 1. You'll need a manicure to prevent thumbnails from tearing the anal wall and causing infection. A rectal fissure is a nasty thing to have. 2. Your anus receives viruses as well as any orifice on your face.

So for all of the educated putzes in the world who still suck their thumbs might I suggest a Chinese Finger Trap. Insert your pointer into each side of the tube and you won't touch or scratch anything and you will appear to be exactly what you are, a fool.

I must offer another new hashtag....

#theQuick2Quacks

(04-03-2020 07:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  I'm seeing some smart folk turn into 'huh' by the hour at this point....

I'm dumbfounded, but hardly surprised.....and it's depressing and sucks balls....

Again, I assume you're speaking of me.

Kindly do me the courtesy of demonstrating where I EVER suggested additional government regulation or anything other than exactly what you have...

Quote:all one can do is practice best method for themselves and others.....

All I've done is put some ideas to the 'best methods'.

self-cleaning/cleaner toilets
fewer 'self-serve' foods
more regular wearing of masks if you're sick and sneezing

Never suggested mandates, never mentioned government, never suggested penalties for not doing so. Only penalty I suggested already exists, for urinating in public when a restroom exists... which I hope you agree isn't a 'best method'

No 'fear' whatsoever by me. I simply see us spending billions of dollars on flu vaccines that aren't that effective against flu, and aren't effective at all against 'new' flu's.... killing 30-50,000 people per year, every year.... and causing untold numbers of lost work hours/productivity by those who catch it. Practicing good flu hygiene seems like it would cost far less and be just as if not vastly more effective.


I don't mind if you disagree with me, I'd just appreciate it if you'd actually disagree with what I said.

(04-04-2020 07:24 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-03-2020 07:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  I'm seeing some smart folk turn into 'huh' by the hour at this point....

I'm dumbfounded, but hardly surprised.....and it's depressing and sucks balls....

Again, I assume you're speaking of me.

Kindly do me the courtesy of demonstrating where I EVER suggested additional government regulation or anything other than exactly what you have...

Quote:all one can do is practice best method for themselves and others.....

All I've done is put some ideas to the 'best methods'.

self-cleaning/cleaner toilets
fewer 'self-serve' foods
more regular wearing of masks if you're sick and sneezing

Never suggested mandates, never mentioned government, never suggested penalties for not doing so. Only penalty I suggested already exists, for urinating in public when a restroom exists... which I hope you agree isn't a 'best method'

No 'fear' whatsoever by me. I simply see us spending billions of dollars on flu vaccines that aren't that effective against flu, and aren't effective at all against 'new' flu's.... killing 30-50,000 people per year, every year.... and causing untold numbers of lost work hours/productivity by those who catch it. Practicing good flu hygiene seems like it would cost far less and be just as if not vastly more effective.


I don't mind if you disagree with me, I'd just appreciate it if you'd actually disagree with what I said.

no sir....I was not talking about you...

If the virus is aerosolized in the air for 3 hrs after a sneeze or cough how in the hell is standing six feet apart going to help you?

Masks were probably a good idea from the beginning. They certainly don’t hurt.

Too bad they are impossible to come by, now. We even restrict their use at the hospital I work at for fear of running out of them, when we should have been using them ubiquitously all along.

(04-04-2020 09:15 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  If the virus is aerosolized in the air for 3 hrs after a sneeze or cough how in the hell is standing six feet apart going to help you?

Masks were probably a good idea from the beginning. They certainly don’t hurt.

Too bad they are impossible to come by, now. We even restrict their use at the hospital I work at for fear of running out of them, when we should have been using them ubiquitously all along.

I agree. Which means everyone should go to the beach on sunny days because everyone knows UV rays kill bugs instantly. And just because the beaches are closed doesn't mean there haven't been hundreds of people on the barrier islands every weekend for the past month or so.

(04-04-2020 07:45 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-04-2020 07:24 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I don't mind if you disagree with me, I'd just appreciate it if you'd actually disagree with what I said.

no sir....I was not talking about you...

My apologies!

(04-04-2020 12:07 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:20 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:07 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 03:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Can they become better? Sure , but the sinks never turn on or off in a timely matter.

mostly because we don't demand that they do.

Quote:The pay toilet obstacle is people choosing not to use it and simply going wherever they feel like instead.
Cleaning isn't an issue if the facilities were all stainless steel. Then you could just pressure wash them like heads in the Navy.

Part of the needed cultural change... as a health issue, I'd make that a crime with a hefty fine. be responsible for your bodily fluids. Pay toilets was just an example/option... have a free public one cleaned once a day and a pay version cleaned automatically after each use. Redesign toilets so there is little or nothing to touch or spread fluids on to... or sure, pressure wash them... that was the thought on the pay toilets. As I undersand it, there are some in Japan that basically spin a wheel... you use the front half and the back half is being cleaned... when you leave, it spins around and the next person has a clean 'seat'.

I'm not proposing a single solution... that's for engineers...

but all you seem to be doing is saying 'none of that can be done'

If that's what you believe then fine... I'm sure some people thought having running toilets INSIDE your home was a crazy idea at one point.

No, I'm just wanting to know that if we import something from another culture that we don't lose something fundamental in our own. Because I can be just as flippant as your bolded response

Don't worry the wearing of masks can never be mainstream here. Cops are trained to shoot people entering stores with masks on. Old habits die hard, and so might we all!

But as far as being Japanese goes their women are perfectly happy being women and that counts for a helluva lot, mask or no mask!

Speaking of women how are the Muslim women who cover themselves from head to toe faring in this pandemic?

(04-05-2020 12:58 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-04-2020 12:07 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:20 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 04:07 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(04-02-2020 03:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Can they become better? Sure , but the sinks never turn on or off in a timely matter.

mostly because we don't demand that they do.

Quote:The pay toilet obstacle is people choosing not to use it and simply going wherever they feel like instead.
Cleaning isn't an issue if the facilities were all stainless steel. Then you could just pressure wash them like heads in the Navy.

Part of the needed cultural change... as a health issue, I'd make that a crime with a hefty fine. be responsible for your bodily fluids. Pay toilets was just an example/option... have a free public one cleaned once a day and a pay version cleaned automatically after each use. Redesign toilets so there is little or nothing to touch or spread fluids on to... or sure, pressure wash them... that was the thought on the pay toilets. As I undersand it, there are some in Japan that basically spin a wheel... you use the front half and the back half is being cleaned... when you leave, it spins around and the next person has a clean 'seat'.

I'm not proposing a single solution... that's for engineers...

but all you seem to be doing is saying 'none of that can be done'

If that's what you believe then fine... I'm sure some people thought having running toilets INSIDE your home was a crazy idea at one point.

No, I'm just wanting to know that if we import something from another culture that we don't lose something fundamental in our own. Because I can be just as flippant as your bolded response

Don't worry the wearing of masks can never be mainstream here. Cops are trained to shoot people entering stores with masks on. Old habits die hard, and so might we all!

But as far as being Japanese goes their women are perfectly happy being women and that counts for a helluva lot, mask or no mask!

Speaking of women how are the Muslim women who cover themselves from head to toe faring in this pandemic?

Well since their husbands and boyfriends are still going to prayers in mass, probably not too well. The face coverings, now you know why Jacob got tricked into nailing Leah before he got Rachel.

(04-04-2020 09:15 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  If the virus is aerosolized in the air for 3 hrs after a sneeze or cough how in the hell is standing six feet apart going to help you?

Masks were probably a good idea from the beginning. They certainly don’t hurt.

Too bad they are impossible to come by, now. We even restrict their use at the hospital I work at for fear of running out of them, when we should have been using them ubiquitously all along.

But their casual use clearly DOES hurt.... because it hurts the availability for those who need them most, are most likely to spread to the most vulnerable.

People who wash and/or gel their hands literally 40+ times/day and yet are exposed to other people's bodily fluids all day long need that (making up a number) 5% differential.... and it's only 5% for them because they wash their hands so often and are very aware of their proper usage.

For the average joe, the difference is more like 1% because they don't wash/gel as often and aren't aware of proper usage.

The more I think about it (and I work in healthcare as well) the bigger a difference I think those other aspects are. HC workers are probably 100 times more likely to contact someone with the disease... 20 times more likely to then spread it to someone for whom it is more than just an illness... but also 90 times (as opposed to the 5 I initially suggested) more likely to benefit from them