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Tom’s favorite debate tactic:
“Trump shut off travel from China. Trump is a xenophobe.”

Someone responds: “Tom, you called Trump a xenophobe for cutting off travel from China.”

Tom responds: “Show me where I called Trump a xenophobe for cutting off travel to China.”
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(04-03-2020 06:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:53 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:38 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  My question to those that want to criticize Trump now is are you on board with full criticism and legitmate action (not war) against the CHINESE REGIME.

I don't have any issue with someone that wants to criticize The President although I would say now isn't the appropriate time. More importantly, I'd highly caution criticism and wait until more conclusive outcomes are determined by actions that have/have not been taken as this is a rapidly changing situation and like the last 3-4 years most of you will come off looking as dumba$$es.

If we can prove something, by all means, do what we can against them.

And I think current criticism during this crisis might actually be a good thing if it makes him change to the correct policy such as abandoning his "aspiration" to be open by Easter, etc.

He's already pushed the date out to APR 30th. Re-evaluations are happening on a daily basis I imagine so picking a point to return to normal is a moving target.

Additionally, trump really has no power to open back up anything anyway. That's up to the individual companies and states really. I won't be going back to my office and therefore buying gas and eating at my work's cafe until they say I can come back in the office. After today, I can't even get into my office for ANY reason short of life and death.

Then what are his aspirations other than trying to give people 'hope'? You can call them a pipe dream, but if Obama were saying it, you'd call it Presidential.
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(04-03-2020 10:44 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(04-03-2020 06:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:53 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:38 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  My question to those that want to criticize Trump now is are you on board with full criticism and legitmate action (not war) against the CHINESE REGIME.

I don't have any issue with someone that wants to criticize The President although I would say now isn't the appropriate time. More importantly, I'd highly caution criticism and wait until more conclusive outcomes are determined by actions that have/have not been taken as this is a rapidly changing situation and like the last 3-4 years most of you will come off looking as dumba$$es.

If we can prove something, by all means, do what we can against them.

And I think current criticism during this crisis might actually be a good thing if it makes him change to the correct policy such as abandoning his "aspiration" to be open by Easter, etc.

He's already pushed the date out to APR 30th. Re-evaluations are happening on a daily basis I imagine so picking a point to return to normal is a moving target.

Additionally, trump really has no power to open back up anything anyway. That's up to the individual companies and states really. I won't be going back to my office and therefore buying gas and eating at my work's cafe until they say I can come back in the office. After today, I can't even get into my office for ANY reason short of life and death.

Then what are his aspirations other than trying to give people 'hope'? You can call them a pipe dream, but if Obama were saying it, you'd call it Presidential.

If it were combined with even an iota of empathy, then yeah, it might be presidential. But I fault the media as much as anyone in this as many just parroted the Easter crap without ever clarifying that the individual states and businesses within them would really control when the economy opens back up on any meaningful scale.
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(04-02-2020 03:18 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 03:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:13 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 12:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  LOL. Would you like to see a few early quotes from some of your faves? Like Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Cuomo, Di Blasio, etc.

I mean... the topic being discussed is Trump, his administration, and their reactions to the coronavirus pandemic.. but since you're so adamant about derailing the conversation with "muh whatabout the democrats"....

Sure.

Share them.

You know what they all said. Just pointing out your hypocrisy for sniping at Trump. Just b/c you're a Dem. I didn't hear you ***** about the others.

I actually don't know what they all said. I have an idea of what you're referring to with respect to Biden, but as for the others, I'm clueless.

So please share them.

By the way, why I am obligated to go after "the others" because I have a problem with Trump? Unlike you, I'm not pretending to be an independent. Plus, last I checked, Cuomo wasn't the president. Nor is Pelosi, Schumer, Di Blasio, or Biden. Trump's the number one guy. He's the commander in chief.

But instead of "the buck stops here", Trump employs the "I don't take responsibility at all" mantra. You know... like a real leader would.... Nothing is his fault, is it? It's Obama's fault, it's the do nothing democrats fault, it's China's fault, it's the mean ol' media's fault...

You democrats are something else altogether. Coumo is doing his Coronavirus presser as we speak and it is all a cry for help and everyone else is at fault. Wants everyone to send their ventilators and will gladly return them when they need them back. Not kidding. He actually said forget about the reason they don’t have enough and threw in the federal government should have been stockpiling them.
This is the savior of the progressive left.
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(04-03-2020 11:02 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 03:18 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 03:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:13 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 12:05 PM)TripleA Wrote:  LOL. Would you like to see a few early quotes from some of your faves? Like Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Cuomo, Di Blasio, etc.

I mean... the topic being discussed is Trump, his administration, and their reactions to the coronavirus pandemic.. but since you're so adamant about derailing the conversation with "muh whatabout the democrats"....

Sure.

Share them.

You know what they all said. Just pointing out your hypocrisy for sniping at Trump. Just b/c you're a Dem. I didn't hear you ***** about the others.

I actually don't know what they all said. I have an idea of what you're referring to with respect to Biden, but as for the others, I'm clueless.

So please share them.

By the way, why I am obligated to go after "the others" because I have a problem with Trump? Unlike you, I'm not pretending to be an independent. Plus, last I checked, Cuomo wasn't the president. Nor is Pelosi, Schumer, Di Blasio, or Biden. Trump's the number one guy. He's the commander in chief.

But instead of "the buck stops here", Trump employs the "I don't take responsibility at all" mantra. You know... like a real leader would.... Nothing is his fault, is it? It's Obama's fault, it's the do nothing democrats fault, it's China's fault, it's the mean ol' media's fault...

You democrats are something else altogether. Coumo is doing his Coronavirus presser as we speak and it is all a cry for help and everyone else is at fault. Wants everyone to send their ventilators and will gladly return them when they need them back. Not kidding. He actually said forget about the reason they don’t have enough and threw in the federal government should have been stockpiling them.
This is the savior of the progressive left.


Has Gov doofus gotten the 2-4 thousand out of NJ yet?
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(04-03-2020 10:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If it were combined with even an iota of empathy, then yeah, it might be presidential.

I sent him a tweet suggesting he hold a bunny next time to be more Presidential
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This OpEd was in my local newspaper - the Daily Hampshire Gazette. It is a payperview so I am cutting and pasting this for all to see. It is in the public space so sharing this writers emaiul address is fair game: I live in an ultra blue, SJW haven here in western mass. The writer is quite tame compared to many I have encountered over the years.


Peacevoice is out of Portland Oregon - that should not be a surrpise. Voicemale magazine is about what I thought it would be as well......

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Guest column by Rob Okun: A call to invoke the 25th Amendment

President Donald Trump. AP
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Published: 4/3/2020 12:30:22 PM
Modified: 4/3/2020 12:30:10 PM
Mike Pence for president. While in normal circumstances I would never endorse him, between now and Jan. 20, 2021, I think he can handle the job. It is time for a citizens’ movement to demand the 25th Amendment to the Constitution be invoked and Donald Trump removed from office.

Why? Because, he is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,” as the statute states.



He is clearly not in his right mind. Before the U.S. has even reached the peak of COVID-19 cases (which could stand at 250,000 when you read this), he recklessly said, “I would love to have the country opened up and raring to go by Easter.”

While he backed away from that idea — extending health expert recommendations for another month — he did so reluctantly and didn’t acknowledge his about-face.


Is it rational to suggest — as Trump did last week — that health professionals told him that more people will die from the economic impact than coronavirus? Equating economic health with people’s lives is, well, crazy. (Trump refused to identity the health experts he fictitiously cited.)

Whenever Trump, flanked by the White House Coronavirus Task Force, steps before the cameras he displays why he is unfit. The doctors serving on that task force — especially Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx — witness his rants almost daily (and up close and too personal). Imagine Drs. Fauci and Birx leading a delegation to congressional leaders and the Trump cabinet to call for his removal. It isn’t hard to do. You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one.

The Teflon president who has survived sex, lies, and Ukrainian tapes — even impeachment — is too dangerous to be allowed to remain in office — not for several more days, let alone several more months.



Take his temper tantrums against the Democratic governors of Washington and Michigan. Or his March 20 tirade against NBC News reporter Peter Alexander. Noting that thousands of Americans are infected with the coronavirus and that millions more are frightened, Alexander gave Trump an opportunity to reassure an anxious nation, asking, “What do you say to Americans who are scared?”

In response, Trump spat out, “I say that you are a terrible reporter. That’s what I say — ” and then let loose a torrent of invective against Alexander. What president in his right mind would turn a moment to act as consoler-in-chief into a hysterical rant? (By contrast, Vice President Pence answered, “I would say, ‘Do not be afraid to be vigilant.’”)

Are Trump’s supporters scared more of his wrath than they are of the virus? Are they blind to his erratic behavior? Sen. Mitt Romney was the lone Republican to vote to convict at Trump’s impeachment trial. Let’s call on the former Massachusetts governor meet with Dr. Fauci to discuss removal.

“These are psychiatric symptoms, not simply boorish behaviors,” Dr. John Talmadge, clinical professor of psychiatry at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center tweeted recently, suggesting Trump is not sound of mind. “Trump is mentally ill, cognitively compromised, brain impaired.…”



We must not become the frog slowly boiling in poisoned water.

With millions of people living through the pandemic being urged — ordered — to stay indoors, and as world economies barely hang on, it is more than irresponsible to use the presidential bully pulpit to proclaim you have “a good feeling” that the antimalarial drug chloroquine could be a cure for COVID-19: it is delusional and a health hazard.

No clinical trials have been completed to reliably suggest the drug as a treatment. In fact, an Arizona man died and his wife was hospitalized after they took chloroquine phosphate after hearing Trump suggest it as a possible effective treatment for the virus.

Dr. Bandy X. Lee, clinical professor of psychiatry at the Yale School of Medicine, told Medhi Hasan of The Intercept that Trump “dangerously lacks mental capacity, which he exhibits through his inability to take in information and advice, to process critical information, or to consider consequences before making impulsive, unstable, and irrational decisions that are not based in reality but fight reality.”

She pointed out that at coronavirus briefings he exhibits “delusional-level distortion and misinformation” because he is “disconnected from reality.”

Wildfire damage is easy to see. Earthquakes and hurricanes, too. The mental illness of a president endangering our country is right in front of us if we simply open our eyes.

Out of his depth, yes; out of his mind, definitely. Out of office? Only if we push to make it happen.

Syndicated by PeaceVoice. Rob Okun is editor of Voice Male magazine. He can be reached at rob@voicemalemagazine.org.
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(04-03-2020 02:52 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  This OpEd was in my local newspaper - the Daily Hampshire Gazette. It is a payperview so I am cutting and pasting this for all to see. It is in the public space so sharing this writers emaiul address is fair game: I live in an ultra blue, SJW haven here in western mass. The writer is quite tame compared to many I have encountered over the years.


Peacevoice is out of Portland Oregon - that should not be a surrpise. Voicemale magazine is about what I thought it would be as well......

[Image: voicemalemagazine.org]



Guest column by Rob Okun: A call to invoke the 25th Amendment

President Donald Trump. AP
Previous
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By Rob Okun
Published: 4/3/2020 12:30:22 PM
Modified: 4/3/2020 12:30:10 PM
Mike Pence for president. While in normal circumstances I would never endorse him, between now and Jan. 20, 2021, I think he can handle the job. It is time for a citizens’ movement to demand the 25th Amendment to the Constitution be invoked and Donald Trump removed from office.

Why? Because, he is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,” as the statute states.



He is clearly not in his right mind. Before the U.S. has even reached the peak of COVID-19 cases (which could stand at 250,000 when you read this), he recklessly said, “I would love to have the country opened up and raring to go by Easter.”

While he backed away from that idea — extending health expert recommendations for another month — he did so reluctantly and didn’t acknowledge his about-face.


Is it rational to suggest — as Trump did last week — that health professionals told him that more people will die from the economic impact than coronavirus? Equating economic health with people’s lives is, well, crazy. (Trump refused to identity the health experts he fictitiously cited.)

Whenever Trump, flanked by the White House Coronavirus Task Force, steps before the cameras he displays why he is unfit. The doctors serving on that task force — especially Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx — witness his rants almost daily (and up close and too personal). Imagine Drs. Fauci and Birx leading a delegation to congressional leaders and the Trump cabinet to call for his removal. It isn’t hard to do. You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one.

The Teflon president who has survived sex, lies, and Ukrainian tapes — even impeachment — is too dangerous to be allowed to remain in office — not for several more days, let alone several more months.



Take his temper tantrums against the Democratic governors of Washington and Michigan. Or his March 20 tirade against NBC News reporter Peter Alexander. Noting that thousands of Americans are infected with the coronavirus and that millions more are frightened, Alexander gave Trump an opportunity to reassure an anxious nation, asking, “What do you say to Americans who are scared?”

In response, Trump spat out, “I say that you are a terrible reporter. That’s what I say — ” and then let loose a torrent of invective against Alexander. What president in his right mind would turn a moment to act as consoler-in-chief into a hysterical rant? (By contrast, Vice President Pence answered, “I would say, ‘Do not be afraid to be vigilant.’”)

Are Trump’s supporters scared more of his wrath than they are of the virus? Are they blind to his erratic behavior? Sen. Mitt Romney was the lone Republican to vote to convict at Trump’s impeachment trial. Let’s call on the former Massachusetts governor meet with Dr. Fauci to discuss removal.

“These are psychiatric symptoms, not simply boorish behaviors,” Dr. John Talmadge, clinical professor of psychiatry at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center tweeted recently, suggesting Trump is not sound of mind. “Trump is mentally ill, cognitively compromised, brain impaired.…”



We must not become the frog slowly boiling in poisoned water.

With millions of people living through the pandemic being urged — ordered — to stay indoors, and as world economies barely hang on, it is more than irresponsible to use the presidential bully pulpit to proclaim you have “a good feeling” that the antimalarial drug chloroquine could be a cure for COVID-19: it is delusional and a health hazard.

No clinical trials have been completed to reliably suggest the drug as a treatment. In fact, an Arizona man died and his wife was hospitalized after they took chloroquine phosphate after hearing Trump suggest it as a possible effective treatment for the virus.

Dr. Bandy X. Lee, clinical professor of psychiatry at the Yale School of Medicine, told Medhi Hasan of The Intercept that Trump “dangerously lacks mental capacity, which he exhibits through his inability to take in information and advice, to process critical information, or to consider consequences before making impulsive, unstable, and irrational decisions that are not based in reality but fight reality.”

She pointed out that at coronavirus briefings he exhibits “delusional-level distortion and misinformation” because he is “disconnected from reality.”

Wildfire damage is easy to see. Earthquakes and hurricanes, too. The mental illness of a president endangering our country is right in front of us if we simply open our eyes.

Out of his depth, yes; out of his mind, definitely. Out of office? Only if we push to make it happen.

Syndicated by PeaceVoice. Rob Okun is editor of Voice Male magazine. He can be reached at rob@voicemalemagazine.org.

Yet, this "author" and the two perfessers will likely gleefully pull the lever for Sloe in a few months.

Thanks for offering your opinion on the same subject that you clowns have been touting for nearly 4 years now. Cognitive diagnosis from the living room couch.

No thanks.
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(04-03-2020 10:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-03-2020 10:44 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(04-03-2020 06:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:53 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If we can prove something, by all means, do what we can against them.

And I think current criticism during this crisis might actually be a good thing if it makes him change to the correct policy such as abandoning his "aspiration" to be open by Easter, etc.

He's already pushed the date out to APR 30th. Re-evaluations are happening on a daily basis I imagine so picking a point to return to normal is a moving target.

Additionally, trump really has no power to open back up anything anyway. That's up to the individual companies and states really. I won't be going back to my office and therefore buying gas and eating at my work's cafe until they say I can come back in the office. After today, I can't even get into my office for ANY reason short of life and death.

Then what are his aspirations other than trying to give people 'hope'? You can call them a pipe dream, but if Obama were saying it, you'd call it Presidential.

If it were combined with even an iota of empathy, then yeah, it might be presidential. But I fault the media as much as anyone in this as many just parroted the Easter crap without ever clarifying that the individual states and businesses within them would really control when the economy opens back up on any meaningful scale.

Quoted directly from the current version of the ProgFilthTalkingPoints.
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(04-03-2020 03:30 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-03-2020 10:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-03-2020 10:44 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(04-03-2020 06:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 02:53 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  He's already pushed the date out to APR 30th. Re-evaluations are happening on a daily basis I imagine so picking a point to return to normal is a moving target.

Additionally, trump really has no power to open back up anything anyway. That's up to the individual companies and states really. I won't be going back to my office and therefore buying gas and eating at my work's cafe until they say I can come back in the office. After today, I can't even get into my office for ANY reason short of life and death.

Then what are his aspirations other than trying to give people 'hope'? You can call them a pipe dream, but if Obama were saying it, you'd call it Presidential.

If it were combined with even an iota of empathy, then yeah, it might be presidential. But I fault the media as much as anyone in this as many just parroted the Easter crap without ever clarifying that the individual states and businesses within them would really control when the economy opens back up on any meaningful scale.

Quoted directly from the current version of the ProgFilthTalkingPoints.

Do you find it interesting that many of the people that want Trump to declare a national stay at home policy are the same people that say he can't reorder the states to open back up for business?
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