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(03-31-2020 11:21 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
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(03-31-2020 09:39 AM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  Mid level d2 my ass. You have no clue what you’re talking about.

Yes, last two years have been down years. Look at the last 20

Feisty Tarleton fans to the WAC board!!! I like! Welcome to the WAC and congrats on the splash hire! Gonna love it when the NMSU students chant "UTEP REJECT"!
Dont they do that every morning while brushing their tooth?

Don't think so pard. NMSU is a top tier learning institution. I'm sure Tarleton is even lower than UTEP aka Juarez Tech when it comes to academics. Gonna enjoy spanking your team next year pard!
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(03-31-2020 11:21 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 08:08 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 01:28 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 09:39 AM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  Mid level d2 my ass. You have no clue what you’re talking about.

Yes, last two years have been down years. Look at the last 20

Feisty Tarleton fans to the WAC board!!! I like! Welcome to the WAC and congrats on the splash hire! Gonna love it when the NMSU students chant "UTEP REJECT"!
Dont they do that every morning while brushing their tooth?

Don't think so pard. NMSU is a top tier learning institution. I'm sure Tarleton is even lower than UTEP aka Juarez Tech when it comes to academics. Gonna enjoy spanking your team next year pard!

Hey, if we're grading on brains rather than basketball, take a look at this:

https://new.uschess.org/news/utrgv-repea...champions/

Took down Harvard to get there.
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(04-01-2020 05:13 PM)edinburger Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 11:21 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 08:08 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 01:28 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 09:39 AM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  Mid level d2 my ass. You have no clue what you’re talking about.

Yes, last two years have been down years. Look at the last 20

Feisty Tarleton fans to the WAC board!!! I like! Welcome to the WAC and congrats on the splash hire! Gonna love it when the NMSU students chant "UTEP REJECT"!
Dont they do that every morning while brushing their tooth?

Don't think so pard. NMSU is a top tier learning institution. I'm sure Tarleton is even lower than UTEP aka Juarez Tech when it comes to academics. Gonna enjoy spanking your team next year pard!

Hey, if we're grading on brains rather than basketball, take a look at this:

https://new.uschess.org/news/utrgv-repea...champions/

Took down Harvard to get there.

Congrats!!!
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As an avid chess player myself that is awesome!
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(03-31-2020 09:07 AM)Trod0 Wrote:  When fully committed BCG is one of the best coaches in the country period. It seems like he has been clean for awhile, and for him I hope he stays like that. This is a great hire, this is the hire GCU should have made. BCG could have an instant impact, by recruiting his ex-players at Ranger. The Ranger roster is loaded with D1 talent and some of them P5 talent. He could get the current player to follow him as he has a connection with them but after that who knows? The thing is, he’s going to the lowest level of school that is not eligible for the NCAA. TSU is a mid level D2 basketball program at best that has moved up. Their current roster has ZERO D1 talent on it. Billy will could get that program kickstarted but can he maintain success? At the JUCO level he’s getting the D1 talen coming to them that either needs a little work or have problems. Now he’ll be competing with over 350 schools for recruiting and has nothing really to offer them. Basically he’s trying to build a program from scratch. Other move ups like GCU CBU and Dixie have had success prior to moving up.

Tarleton State had a very good D2 coach in Lonn Reisman. From 2002 to 2017, Tarleton State played in the NCAA DII Tournament 14 out of 16 years; going to the Elite Eight multiple times. They have a storied history in DII basketball. Tarleton State has only been a "mid-level" D2 programs the last three season; two of which were led by Chris Reisman (Lonn Reisman's son). At least Chris Reisman realized early on that the Tarleton State program would be better off in the hands of a more seasoned coach than him; someone with D1 experience. In Billy Gillispie, they found their D1 version of Lonn Reisman. When mentally and emotionally right, Billy Gillispie is an elite coach. He is very much on Chris Jans level.Also, Tarleton State does have D1 talent on their roster if you look closely. There are some players on the Texan roster who can hold their own against "most" the WAC programs; not named NMSU. But I am almost willing to bet Gillispie will rectify their talent gaps soon.

No offense, but when they are both at their best, Jans cannot touch BCG. There is a reason he was hired by Kentucky.

If BCG is healthy, the WAC will belong to TSU five years from now.
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(04-02-2020 12:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  
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(03-31-2020 09:07 AM)Trod0 Wrote:  When fully committed BCG is one of the best coaches in the country period. It seems like he has been clean for awhile, and for him I hope he stays like that. This is a great hire, this is the hire GCU should have made. BCG could have an instant impact, by recruiting his ex-players at Ranger. The Ranger roster is loaded with D1 talent and some of them P5 talent. He could get the current player to follow him as he has a connection with them but after that who knows? The thing is, he’s going to the lowest level of school that is not eligible for the NCAA. TSU is a mid level D2 basketball program at best that has moved up. Their current roster has ZERO D1 talent on it. Billy will could get that program kickstarted but can he maintain success? At the JUCO level he’s getting the D1 talen coming to them that either needs a little work or have problems. Now he’ll be competing with over 350 schools for recruiting and has nothing really to offer them. Basically he’s trying to build a program from scratch. Other move ups like GCU CBU and Dixie have had success prior to moving up.

Tarleton State had a very good D2 coach in Lonn Reisman. From 2002 to 2017, Tarleton State played in the NCAA DII Tournament 14 out of 16 years; going to the Elite Eight multiple times. They have a storied history in DII basketball. Tarleton State has only been a "mid-level" D2 programs the last three season; two of which were led by Chris Reisman (Lonn Reisman's son). At least Chris Reisman realized early on that the Tarleton State program would be better off in the hands of a more seasoned coach than him; someone with D1 experience. In Billy Gillispie, they found their D1 version of Lonn Reisman. When mentally and emotionally right, Billy Gillispie is an elite coach. He is very much on Chris Jans level.Also, Tarleton State does have D1 talent on their roster if you look closely. There are some players on the Texan roster who can hold their own against "most" the WAC programs; not named NMSU. But I am almost willing to bet Gillispie will rectify their talent gaps soon.

No offense, but when they are both at their best, Jans cannot touch BCG. There is a reason he was hired by Kentucky.

If BCG is healthy, the WAC will belong to TSU five years from now.

He doesn't stay at a D1 school longer than 2-3 years. Seems like he's always looking for the better gig.
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(04-02-2020 12:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 11:00 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 09:07 AM)Trod0 Wrote:  When fully committed BCG is one of the best coaches in the country period. It seems like he has been clean for awhile, and for him I hope he stays like that. This is a great hire, this is the hire GCU should have made. BCG could have an instant impact, by recruiting his ex-players at Ranger. The Ranger roster is loaded with D1 talent and some of them P5 talent. He could get the current player to follow him as he has a connection with them but after that who knows? The thing is, he’s going to the lowest level of school that is not eligible for the NCAA. TSU is a mid level D2 basketball program at best that has moved up. Their current roster has ZERO D1 talent on it. Billy will could get that program kickstarted but can he maintain success? At the JUCO level he’s getting the D1 talen coming to them that either needs a little work or have problems. Now he’ll be competing with over 350 schools for recruiting and has nothing really to offer them. Basically he’s trying to build a program from scratch. Other move ups like GCU CBU and Dixie have had success prior to moving up.

Tarleton State had a very good D2 coach in Lonn Reisman. From 2002 to 2017, Tarleton State played in the NCAA DII Tournament 14 out of 16 years; going to the Elite Eight multiple times. They have a storied history in DII basketball. Tarleton State has only been a "mid-level" D2 programs the last three season; two of which were led by Chris Reisman (Lonn Reisman's son). At least Chris Reisman realized early on that the Tarleton State program would be better off in the hands of a more seasoned coach than him; someone with D1 experience. In Billy Gillispie, they found their D1 version of Lonn Reisman. When mentally and emotionally right, Billy Gillispie is an elite coach. He is very much on Chris Jans level.Also, Tarleton State does have D1 talent on their roster if you look closely. There are some players on the Texan roster who can hold their own against "most" the WAC programs; not named NMSU. But I am almost willing to bet Gillispie will rectify their talent gaps soon.

No offense, but when they are both at their best, Jans cannot touch BCG. There is a reason he was hired by Kentucky.

If BCG is healthy, the WAC will belong to TSU five years from now.

Ahh, the gauntlet has been thrown. How much do you know about Jans and NMSU? I will remember this: the WAC will belong to TSU five years from now...
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(04-02-2020 12:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 11:00 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 09:07 AM)Trod0 Wrote:  When fully committed BCG is one of the best coaches in the country period. It seems like he has been clean for awhile, and for him I hope he stays like that. This is a great hire, this is the hire GCU should have made. BCG could have an instant impact, by recruiting his ex-players at Ranger. The Ranger roster is loaded with D1 talent and some of them P5 talent. He could get the current player to follow him as he has a connection with them but after that who knows? The thing is, he’s going to the lowest level of school that is not eligible for the NCAA. TSU is a mid level D2 basketball program at best that has moved up. Their current roster has ZERO D1 talent on it. Billy will could get that program kickstarted but can he maintain success? At the JUCO level he’s getting the D1 talen coming to them that either needs a little work or have problems. Now he’ll be competing with over 350 schools for recruiting and has nothing really to offer them. Basically he’s trying to build a program from scratch. Other move ups like GCU CBU and Dixie have had success prior to moving up.

Tarleton State had a very good D2 coach in Lonn Reisman. From 2002 to 2017, Tarleton State played in the NCAA DII Tournament 14 out of 16 years; going to the Elite Eight multiple times. They have a storied history in DII basketball. Tarleton State has only been a "mid-level" D2 programs the last three season; two of which were led by Chris Reisman (Lonn Reisman's son). At least Chris Reisman realized early on that the Tarleton State program would be better off in the hands of a more seasoned coach than him; someone with D1 experience. In Billy Gillispie, they found their D1 version of Lonn Reisman. When mentally and emotionally right, Billy Gillispie is an elite coach. He is very much on Chris Jans level.Also, Tarleton State does have D1 talent on their roster if you look closely. There are some players on the Texan roster who can hold their own against "most" the WAC programs; not named NMSU. But I am almost willing to bet Gillispie will rectify their talent gaps soon.

No offense, but when they are both at their best, Jans cannot touch BCG. There is a reason he was hired by Kentucky.

If BCG is healthy, the WAC will belong to TSU five years from now.

I think you under estimate Jans as a coach. While at NMSU he has already out coached more seasoned coaches with more talent than at NMSU; upsetting Jim Larranaga's Miami team when they were ranked 6th in the nation. And, defeating Ben Howland's Mississippi State team this past season. Also, coming just short of beating Bill Self's Kansas team and Bruce Pearl's Auburn team. Gillispie has shown what he can do with a healthy recruiting budget; something Jans hasn't had at NMSU. And, something Gillispie will not have at Tarleton State. So, recruiting wise, we truly don't know how good a coach Jans could be. But tactically (Xs & Os, sideline coaching) Jans is every bit on Gillispie's level and possibly better now. Keep in mind, Jans has a 78% winning percentage for his career. Jans is a winning and a up and comer. Gillispies best coaching days are now behind him. Not to say he is in decline. Just that he is now the head coach at Tarleton State; not Kentucky or Texas A&M.
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(04-02-2020 12:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 11:00 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 09:07 AM)Trod0 Wrote:  When fully committed BCG is one of the best coaches in the country period. It seems like he has been clean for awhile, and for him I hope he stays like that. This is a great hire, this is the hire GCU should have made. BCG could have an instant impact, by recruiting his ex-players at Ranger. The Ranger roster is loaded with D1 talent and some of them P5 talent. He could get the current player to follow him as he has a connection with them but after that who knows? The thing is, he’s going to the lowest level of school that is not eligible for the NCAA. TSU is a mid level D2 basketball program at best that has moved up. Their current roster has ZERO D1 talent on it. Billy will could get that program kickstarted but can he maintain success? At the JUCO level he’s getting the D1 talen coming to them that either needs a little work or have problems. Now he’ll be competing with over 350 schools for recruiting and has nothing really to offer them. Basically he’s trying to build a program from scratch. Other move ups like GCU CBU and Dixie have had success prior to moving up.

Tarleton State had a very good D2 coach in Lonn Reisman. From 2002 to 2017, Tarleton State played in the NCAA DII Tournament 14 out of 16 years; going to the Elite Eight multiple times. They have a storied history in DII basketball. Tarleton State has only been a "mid-level" D2 programs the last three season; two of which were led by Chris Reisman (Lonn Reisman's son). At least Chris Reisman realized early on that the Tarleton State program would be better off in the hands of a more seasoned coach than him; someone with D1 experience. In Billy Gillispie, they found their D1 version of Lonn Reisman. When mentally and emotionally right, Billy Gillispie is an elite coach. He is very much on Chris Jans level.Also, Tarleton State does have D1 talent on their roster if you look closely. There are some players on the Texan roster who can hold their own against "most" the WAC programs; not named NMSU. But I am almost willing to bet Gillispie will rectify their talent gaps soon.

No offense, but when they are both at their best, Jans cannot touch BCG. There is a reason he was hired by Kentucky.

If BCG is healthy, the WAC will belong to TSU five years from now.

I spit out my coffee when I read this! GCU fans felt the same way five years ago cause they had a super star coach, Colangelo and all the money in the world backing them up. NMSU has had 3 coaches since and continues to dominate the WAC and GCU has fired their coach. Gillespie is a good coach. Some Aggie fans that have actually met Gillespie are saying he is a tool but i'm glad the WAC has added a proven college basketball coach with successful a successful coaching history. Its going to be fun watching Gillespie and Jans go at it. I have a feeling Tarleton will surpass UTRGV. Could that be another rivalry in the WAC in the future?
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(04-02-2020 09:57 AM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 12:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 11:00 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 09:07 AM)Trod0 Wrote:  When fully committed BCG is one of the best coaches in the country period. It seems like he has been clean for awhile, and for him I hope he stays like that. This is a great hire, this is the hire GCU should have made. BCG could have an instant impact, by recruiting his ex-players at Ranger. The Ranger roster is loaded with D1 talent and some of them P5 talent. He could get the current player to follow him as he has a connection with them but after that who knows? The thing is, he’s going to the lowest level of school that is not eligible for the NCAA. TSU is a mid level D2 basketball program at best that has moved up. Their current roster has ZERO D1 talent on it. Billy will could get that program kickstarted but can he maintain success? At the JUCO level he’s getting the D1 talen coming to them that either needs a little work or have problems. Now he’ll be competing with over 350 schools for recruiting and has nothing really to offer them. Basically he’s trying to build a program from scratch. Other move ups like GCU CBU and Dixie have had success prior to moving up.

Tarleton State had a very good D2 coach in Lonn Reisman. From 2002 to 2017, Tarleton State played in the NCAA DII Tournament 14 out of 16 years; going to the Elite Eight multiple times. They have a storied history in DII basketball. Tarleton State has only been a "mid-level" D2 programs the last three season; two of which were led by Chris Reisman (Lonn Reisman's son). At least Chris Reisman realized early on that the Tarleton State program would be better off in the hands of a more seasoned coach than him; someone with D1 experience. In Billy Gillispie, they found their D1 version of Lonn Reisman. When mentally and emotionally right, Billy Gillispie is an elite coach. He is very much on Chris Jans level.Also, Tarleton State does have D1 talent on their roster if you look closely. There are some players on the Texan roster who can hold their own against "most" the WAC programs; not named NMSU. But I am almost willing to bet Gillispie will rectify their talent gaps soon.

No offense, but when they are both at their best, Jans cannot touch BCG. There is a reason he was hired by Kentucky.

If BCG is healthy, the WAC will belong to TSU five years from now.

I spit out my coffee when I read this! GCU fans felt the same way five years ago cause they had a super star coach, Colangelo and all the money in the world backing them up. NMSU has had 3 coaches since and continues to dominate the WAC and GCU has fired their coach. Gillespie is a good coach. Some Aggie fans that have actually met Gillespie are saying he is a tool but i'm glad the WAC has added a proven college basketball coach with successful a successful coaching history. Its going to be fun watching Gillespie and Jans go at it. I have a feeling Tarleton will surpass UTRGV. Could that be another rivalry in the WAC in the future?

Glad to see Tarleton fans have a competitive attitude. It's not even the first season and they're more active here than half the schools.

On attendance and such they almost certainly will surpass us, maybe immediately. It's a more of a residential school, there's a football tradition, and there's probably not as much competing entertainment in Stephenville (no offense intended).

As for winning games that's a different thing. And on the rivalry, keep in mind that it's 8 hours from here to Tarleton. Plus the only thing we dream of day and night is taking down NMSU.
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(04-03-2020 05:57 PM)edinburger Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 09:57 AM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
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(03-31-2020 11:00 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 09:07 AM)Trod0 Wrote:  When fully committed BCG is one of the best coaches in the country period. It seems like he has been clean for awhile, and for him I hope he stays like that. This is a great hire, this is the hire GCU should have made. BCG could have an instant impact, by recruiting his ex-players at Ranger. The Ranger roster is loaded with D1 talent and some of them P5 talent. He could get the current player to follow him as he has a connection with them but after that who knows? The thing is, he’s going to the lowest level of school that is not eligible for the NCAA. TSU is a mid level D2 basketball program at best that has moved up. Their current roster has ZERO D1 talent on it. Billy will could get that program kickstarted but can he maintain success? At the JUCO level he’s getting the D1 talen coming to them that either needs a little work or have problems. Now he’ll be competing with over 350 schools for recruiting and has nothing really to offer them. Basically he’s trying to build a program from scratch. Other move ups like GCU CBU and Dixie have had success prior to moving up.

Tarleton State had a very good D2 coach in Lonn Reisman. From 2002 to 2017, Tarleton State played in the NCAA DII Tournament 14 out of 16 years; going to the Elite Eight multiple times. They have a storied history in DII basketball. Tarleton State has only been a "mid-level" D2 programs the last three season; two of which were led by Chris Reisman (Lonn Reisman's son). At least Chris Reisman realized early on that the Tarleton State program would be better off in the hands of a more seasoned coach than him; someone with D1 experience. In Billy Gillispie, they found their D1 version of Lonn Reisman. When mentally and emotionally right, Billy Gillispie is an elite coach. He is very much on Chris Jans level.Also, Tarleton State does have D1 talent on their roster if you look closely. There are some players on the Texan roster who can hold their own against "most" the WAC programs; not named NMSU. But I am almost willing to bet Gillispie will rectify their talent gaps soon.

No offense, but when they are both at their best, Jans cannot touch BCG. There is a reason he was hired by Kentucky.

If BCG is healthy, the WAC will belong to TSU five years from now.

I spit out my coffee when I read this! GCU fans felt the same way five years ago cause they had a super star coach, Colangelo and all the money in the world backing them up. NMSU has had 3 coaches since and continues to dominate the WAC and GCU has fired their coach. Gillespie is a good coach. Some Aggie fans that have actually met Gillespie are saying he is a tool but i'm glad the WAC has added a proven college basketball coach with successful a successful coaching history. Its going to be fun watching Gillespie and Jans go at it. I have a feeling Tarleton will surpass UTRGV. Could that be another rivalry in the WAC in the future?

Glad to see Tarleton fans have a competitive attitude. It's not even the first season and they're more active here than half the schools.

On attendance and such they almost certainly will surpass us, maybe immediately. It's a more of a residential school, there's a football tradition, and there's probably not as much competing entertainment in Stephenville (no offense intended).

As for winning games that's a different thing. And on the rivalry, keep in mind that it's 8 hours from here to Tarleton. Plus the only thing we dream of day and night is taking down NMSU.

Youre not wrong. Tarleton will benefit from a few things -
1. History of sports success and a football team helps keep people focused on sports at Tarleton.

2. We're basically a cult. Tons of traditions and a weird culture that people adopt once they get to Stephenville. It always felt like a small family when I was there, I hope that this only gets stronger as we move up.

3. Stephenville is a small town. There is nothing to do there. As a student it made sense to go to the Tuesday night game because nothing else was going on.


Edinburger, what your take on a TSU / UTRGV rivalry? Will RGV embrace it? I think our lack of history will make for an uphill battle initially.
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(04-04-2020 03:44 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  
(04-03-2020 05:57 PM)edinburger Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 09:57 AM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 12:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-31-2020 11:00 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Tarleton State had a very good D2 coach in Lonn Reisman. From 2002 to 2017, Tarleton State played in the NCAA DII Tournament 14 out of 16 years; going to the Elite Eight multiple times. They have a storied history in DII basketball. Tarleton State has only been a "mid-level" D2 programs the last three season; two of which were led by Chris Reisman (Lonn Reisman's son). At least Chris Reisman realized early on that the Tarleton State program would be better off in the hands of a more seasoned coach than him; someone with D1 experience. In Billy Gillispie, they found their D1 version of Lonn Reisman. When mentally and emotionally right, Billy Gillispie is an elite coach. He is very much on Chris Jans level.Also, Tarleton State does have D1 talent on their roster if you look closely. There are some players on the Texan roster who can hold their own against "most" the WAC programs; not named NMSU. But I am almost willing to bet Gillispie will rectify their talent gaps soon.

No offense, but when they are both at their best, Jans cannot touch BCG. There is a reason he was hired by Kentucky.

If BCG is healthy, the WAC will belong to TSU five years from now.

I spit out my coffee when I read this! GCU fans felt the same way five years ago cause they had a super star coach, Colangelo and all the money in the world backing them up. NMSU has had 3 coaches since and continues to dominate the WAC and GCU has fired their coach. Gillespie is a good coach. Some Aggie fans that have actually met Gillespie are saying he is a tool but i'm glad the WAC has added a proven college basketball coach with successful a successful coaching history. Its going to be fun watching Gillespie and Jans go at it. I have a feeling Tarleton will surpass UTRGV. Could that be another rivalry in the WAC in the future?

Glad to see Tarleton fans have a competitive attitude. It's not even the first season and they're more active here than half the schools.

On attendance and such they almost certainly will surpass us, maybe immediately. It's a more of a residential school, there's a football tradition, and there's probably not as much competing entertainment in Stephenville (no offense intended).

As for winning games that's a different thing. And on the rivalry, keep in mind that it's 8 hours from here to Tarleton. Plus the only thing we dream of day and night is taking down NMSU.

Youre not wrong. Tarleton will benefit from a few things -
1. History of sports success and a football team helps keep people focused on sports at Tarleton.

2. We're basically a cult. Tons of traditions and a weird culture that people adopt once they get to Stephenville. It always felt like a small family when I was there, I hope that this only gets stronger as we move up.

3. Stephenville is a small town. There is nothing to do there. As a student it made sense to go to the Tuesday night game because nothing else was going on.


Edinburger, what your take on a TSU / UTRGV rivalry? Will RGV embrace it? I think our lack of history will make for an uphill battle initially.

It will take a few years. Correct me if I'm wrong about your end, but probably 9 out of 10 Tarleton students haven't even heard of UTRGV and vice versa. I knew about you but I'm a college professor. Come beat us in the fieldhouse and people will start to remember. Do it over and over again and we'll get obsessed like the NMSU thing.

Just given the type of students we have and the distance, it probably won't ever get to where we have hundreds of students travelling up there. Unless the WAC sees reason and starts rotating the tournament location to member campuses. I could imagine some busloads if it was for a tournament.
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Tell y'all what; that WAC tourney up in Vegas just got really interesting. Like I really needed another reason to go to Vegas!
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(04-09-2020 03:23 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Tell y'all what; that WAC tourney up in Vegas just got really interesting. Like I really needed another reason to go to Vegas!

You'll have to wait four years before Tarleton State and Dixie State are eligible to compete in the WAC Tournament. The NCAA's mandatory transition period before both school are classified as D1 post season eligible.
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(04-09-2020 03:23 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Tell y'all what; that WAC tourney up in Vegas just got really interesting. Like I really needed another reason to go to Vegas!

You'll have to wait four years before Tarleton State and Dixie State are eligible to compete in the WAC Tournament. The NCAA's mandatory transition period before both school are classified as D1 post season eligible.

Bummer. Watched Billy Clyde's intro/Q&A event. When asked how the transition will affect recruiting, could've sworn he said they'll still be able to compete for a WAC title while in transition. Guessing he meant regular season title, not tourney. He also mentioned being able to play in the NIT.
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(04-09-2020 06:04 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 03:32 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 03:23 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Tell y'all what; that WAC tourney up in Vegas just got really interesting. Like I really needed another reason to go to Vegas!

You'll have to wait four years before Tarleton State and Dixie State are eligible to compete in the WAC Tournament. The NCAA's mandatory transition period before both school are classified as D1 post season eligible.

Bummer. Watched Billy Clyde's intro/Q&A event. When asked how the transition will affect recruiting, could've sworn he said they'll still be able to compete for a WAC title while in transition. Guessing he meant regular season title, not tourney. He also mentioned being able to play in the NIT.

Tarleton State, Dixie State and California Baptist can compete for the regular season title. But they can't participate in any NCAA sanctioned post season tournaments until the schools complete the required D1 probationary period. Cal Baptist still has two more seasons to go until they are eligible. However all schools are eligible to compete in the CIT and CBI post season tournament immediately (if selected).

Despite finishing second place in the WAC this past season, Cal Baptist would not be able to compete in the WAC tournament; if it had been played (cancelled because of the COVID19 virus). Unfortunately for Cal Baptist, with their 20-plus win record they would have undoubtedly been invited to either the CIT or CBI. But again it was cancelled.

Recruiting might be a little difficult because of the "shelter in place" restrictions going on around the country. But once thing get back to "near" normal, Gillispie should be stocking Tarleton State with some good D1 recruits. Right now NMSU is setting the bar but I got a feeling Grand Canyon will close the gap with the hire of Bryce Drew. Like Gillispie, he is also a very good recruiter.

Hopefully NMSU can keep Jans awhile. Because with the new coaches, it looks like the WAC is going to get interest in the coming years.
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(04-09-2020 06:04 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 03:32 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 03:23 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Tell y'all what; that WAC tourney up in Vegas just got really interesting. Like I really needed another reason to go to Vegas!

You'll have to wait four years before Tarleton State and Dixie State are eligible to compete in the WAC Tournament. The NCAA's mandatory transition period before both school are classified as D1 post season eligible.

Bummer. Watched Billy Clyde's intro/Q&A event. When asked how the transition will affect recruiting, could've sworn he said they'll still be able to compete for a WAC title while in transition. Guessing he meant regular season title, not tourney. He also mentioned being able to play in the NIT.

My understanding from GCU's transition period is that conferences are permitted to allow transitioning teams to complete in conference tournaments after they have established all the proper D1 elements (typically by the end of Year 1). Conference members at the time elected to NOT allow GCU into conference tournaments.

That said, the conference is made up of different schools and administrators now than it was 8 or so years ago. Maybe there has been a collective change of heart?

I would be all for seeing the transitioning teams compete in the conference tournaments, as the 4-year purgatory is really, really dumb. The biggest detail to be ironed out would be what happens with the autobid if a transitioning team wins any given tournament, as they CANNOT compete for NCAA championships until the full four year transition is over.
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(04-09-2020 06:33 PM)gleadley Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 06:04 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 03:32 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 03:23 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Tell y'all what; that WAC tourney up in Vegas just got really interesting. Like I really needed another reason to go to Vegas!

You'll have to wait four years before Tarleton State and Dixie State are eligible to compete in the WAC Tournament. The NCAA's mandatory transition period before both school are classified as D1 post season eligible.

Bummer. Watched Billy Clyde's intro/Q&A event. When asked how the transition will affect recruiting, could've sworn he said they'll still be able to compete for a WAC title while in transition. Guessing he meant regular season title, not tourney. He also mentioned being able to play in the NIT.

My understanding from GCU's transition period is that conferences are permitted to allow transitioning teams to complete in conference tournaments after they have established all the proper D1 elements (typically by the end of Year 1). Conference members at the time elected to NOT allow GCU into conference tournaments.

That said, the conference is made up of different schools and administrators now than it was 8 or so years ago. Maybe there has been a collective change of heart?

I would be all for seeing the transitioning teams compete in the conference tournaments, as the 4-year purgatory is really, really dumb. The biggest detail to be ironed out would be what happens with the autobid if a transitioning team wins any given tournament, as they CANNOT compete for NCAA championships until the full four year transition is over.

The NCAA does allow the transitioning teams to play in conference tournaments. However most, if not all, conferences do not allow them to participate. The reason is that the conferences have established that the conference tournament champion is the NCAA tournament automatic qualifier. Thus if the transitioning team wins the tourney, they are ineligible for the NCAA, potentially leaving the conference totally out of the Big Dance. The risk is not worth it.
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Seems like an easy fix:

"Should a team who does not qualify for NCAA championship tournament participation win the conference tournament, the regular season champion shall receive the automatic bid. Should the regular season champion also represent a non-qualifying institution, the conference automatic bid shall be awarded to the highest seeded qualifying team."
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BCG even said in his interview that they could compete in the conference tournament.
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