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(06-15-2020 04:53 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Mike Glass was an impact player who could change a game in a heartbeat both with his legs and his arm. He leaves a big hole at QB. And unfortunately we did not have a full spring practice and a spring game to see how well the other QBs have progressed since last fall.

Aaron Jackson 6'2 225 So. now entering his third year in the program and was highly touted. Have not seen what he is capable of.

Issac Stiebeling 6'4 215 Sr. Has seen very limited action in his EMU career, really surprised he didn't grad transfer somewhere else.

Chris Kaminski 6'3 200 R-Fr. Walk on.

Baron May 6'0 200 Fr. Likely redshirt.

Preston Hutchinson 6'2 210 Jr. Love his arm, but one game sample size.

Chris Helbig 6'4 225 Grad Transfer-nice resume at his previous schools. Can he do it in D1?

I'm sure Grissom will take some snaps at wildcat formation.

We can ***** about Creighton's recruiting prowess but you know what? We entered the 2017 season with cannon armed Roback as our QB and Stiebeling as his backup. Isaac appears to be great young man and teammate, but his arm is clearly not D1 quality and that may have forced us not to use Brogan's legs. I have heard wild things about May, Hutchinson has a D1 arm, Jackson and Grissom are splendid athletes. Helbig, may or may not be very good but we are clearly in a better place than we were just three years ago. Coach saw a problem and fixed it.
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(06-14-2020 08:03 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(06-14-2020 07:37 AM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  
(06-13-2020 04:21 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Now to the strongest part of the defense despite some key losses, we play 5 DBs:

Jalen Phelps 5'11 175 Sr.
Korey Hernandez 5'11 180 Jr.
Freddie McGee 5'8 180 Sr.
Cathell Flowers 6'2 195 Jr.
Jeff Hubbard 5'11 180 Sr.
Corey Thomas 5'10 170 R-Fr.
Jerodd Vines 6'0 180 So.
Mark Lee Jr. 6'0 180 R-Fr.
Noski LaFleur 6'0 195 Sr.
Robert Daniel 6'0 195 R-Fr.
Joey Hiser 6'0 180 Jr.
Blake Bogan 6'2 200 Jr.
Isiah Watson 5'10 165 So.
Timarcus Simpson 5'11 180 So.
Kempton Shine 5'11 180 R-Fr despite playing four games last year
EJ Williams 6'1 211 So.
Kendric Nowling 6'2 200 R-Fr.
TJ Peavy 5'10 190 R-Fr.
Russ Vaden 6'3 210 Jr.

Lots of guys with playing experience. Just what is the best combo?

Recruits assuming these will all redshirt

David Carter Jr. 5'11 175
Tristen Hines 5'11 170
Myles McNeal 5'10 170

Based on last season's performances, I would expect the top 3 CBs to be Hernandez, Vines, and McGee. Bogan and Phelps probably start at safety.

However, a lot of these young guys were high level MAC recruits. There should be a lot of competition for playing time.

On question I have; can they replace Hoying? I know he wasn't an all-american or anything like that, but I always felt Brody was a key cog in the D. Smart, versatile, leader. Are one of these young guys that type of player?

This position seems like DL, few breakout all-MAC players, but a lot of players who can play MAC ball.

Agree, we have recruited well at this position.

Brody was one of those players if God had given him more speed he would have been a real star, and probably NFL material.

He has more natural ability than speed.

Neathery said "Brody Hoying is better than he should be". Translation: he did not have the physical talents of others but still made the plays. Even in his junior year with a bad shoulder, he was a better tackler than the obviously more talented Kevin Magill. He will indeed be missed.
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Players are back for voluntary workouts.
That's big news.
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Our season opener at Kentucky was moved to Thursday, Sept. 3rd to avoid conflicts with the Kentucky Derby (which is now Saturday, Sept. 5th).

https://emueagles.com/news/2020/6/16/foo...ept-3.aspx
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(06-16-2020 02:20 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Our season opener at Kentucky was moved to Thursday, Sept. 3rd to avoid conflicts with the Kentucky Derby (which is now Saturday, Sept. 5th).

https://emueagles.com/news/2020/6/16/foo...ept-3.aspx

Luv it. Should get a nice TV broadcast. And the team gets 2 extra days between 1st and 2nd games.

I like when games that first weekend are played on various days like Thurs, Friday, etc.
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(06-16-2020 02:53 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(06-16-2020 02:20 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Our season opener at Kentucky was moved to Thursday, Sept. 3rd to avoid conflicts with the Kentucky Derby (which is now Saturday, Sept. 5th).

https://emueagles.com/news/2020/6/16/foo...ept-3.aspx

Luv it. Should get a nice TV broadcast. And the team gets 2 extra days between 1st and 2nd games.

I like when games that first weekend are played on various days like Thurs, Friday, etc.

I'm guessing a national SEC Network broadcast. No other SEC games that night, as of right now.
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(06-16-2020 02:20 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Our season opener at Kentucky was moved to Thursday, Sept. 3rd to avoid conflicts with the Kentucky Derby (which is now Saturday, Sept. 5th).

https://emueagles.com/news/2020/6/16/foo...ept-3.aspx
I haven't been to the derby in about 25 years. Now I'm intrigued. Thinking about hitting both events.
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(06-16-2020 03:17 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  
(06-16-2020 02:20 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Our season opener at Kentucky was moved to Thursday, Sept. 3rd to avoid conflicts with the Kentucky Derby (which is now Saturday, Sept. 5th).

https://emueagles.com/news/2020/6/16/foo...ept-3.aspx
I haven't been to the derby in about 25 years. Now I'm intrigued. Thinking about hitting both events.

I went in 2015 (American Pharoah's first win on the way to the Triple Crown). I had a blast. I stayed in Lexington the night before too. It's an easy drive over to Louisville and the hotel rooms will are way cheaper.
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For many years Vann was the MAN at running back, when he was at his best he was a great mix of speed and strength as well a solid receiver out of the backfield. Contrast this with Branham Jr. who will never take the field for EMU despite his many recruiting stars. No Breck Turner who was reliable. I honestly think this position is wide open this year.

Karmi Mackey 6'1 220 So
Willie Parker 5'9 190 Sr.
Darius Boone 5'11 205 Fr.
DJ Smith 5'9 195 Fr.

Josh McCarty 5'11 190 R Fr
Mike Foor 5'11 205 So

Both are walk ons.

Trey Bess 5'9 190 on any other team he would redshirt depending on injury he may see more than 4 games this year

Should be an interesting battle.
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(06-16-2020 05:04 PM)emu79 Wrote:  For many years Vann was the MAN at running back, when he was at his best he was a great mix of speed and strength as well a solid receiver out of the backfield. Contrast this with Branham Jr. who will never take the field for EMU despite his many recruiting stars. No Breck Turner who was reliable. I honestly think this position is wide open this year.

Karmi Mackey 6'1 220 So
Willie Parker 5'9 190 Sr.
Darius Boone 5'11 205 Fr.
DJ Smith 5'9 195 Fr.

Josh McCarty 5'11 190 R Fr
Mike Foor 5'11 205 So

Both are walk ons.

Trey Bess 5'9 190 on any other team he would redshirt depending on injury he may see more than 4 games this year

Should be an interesting battle.
This team really needs one or two of these guys to emerge as a major threat. The recruiting credentials are good on a few of them. Let's see if it translates to the field.
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(06-16-2020 05:04 PM)emu79 Wrote:  For many years Vann was the MAN at running back, when he was at his best he was a great mix of speed and strength as well a solid receiver out of the backfield. Contrast this with Branham Jr. who will never take the field for EMU despite his many recruiting stars. No Breck Turner who was reliable. I honestly think this position is wide open this year.

Karmi Mackey 6'1 220 So
Willie Parker 5'9 190 Sr.
Darius Boone 5'11 205 Fr.
DJ Smith 5'9 195 Fr.

Josh McCarty 5'11 190 R Fr
Mike Foor 5'11 205 So

Both are walk ons.

Trey Bess 5'9 190 on any other team he would redshirt depending on injury he may see more than 4 games this year

Should be an interesting battle.

I loved Shaq! I thought he was a running back with NFL potential in his sophomore year. He did not, however, improve much after that and I think the Kentucky game injury rendered his career static afterwards. He was solid, no fumbles, a good blocker and pretty much a stabilizing influence for the offense. Turner was far more electric, he could break a long run, unfortunately he also coughed up the ball rather easily. Remember that long run vs PJ Fleck's WMU early in the game in Kzoo? I still think Breck was a special talent but Vann and Ericksen were more solid and he never got the chance to show himself off.

There is no heir apparent at running back this year and I think that is a good thing. Parker and Mackey present differing value propositions due to their size and speed and I am sanguine with that situation. As you say, it will be interesting.
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(06-16-2020 05:41 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(06-16-2020 05:04 PM)emu79 Wrote:  For many years Vann was the MAN at running back, when he was at his best he was a great mix of speed and strength as well a solid receiver out of the backfield. Contrast this with Branham Jr. who will never take the field for EMU despite his many recruiting stars. No Breck Turner who was reliable. I honestly think this position is wide open this year.

Karmi Mackey 6'1 220 So
Willie Parker 5'9 190 Sr.
Darius Boone 5'11 205 Fr.
DJ Smith 5'9 195 Fr.

Josh McCarty 5'11 190 R Fr
Mike Foor 5'11 205 So

Both are walk ons.

Trey Bess 5'9 190 on any other team he would redshirt depending on injury he may see more than 4 games this year

Should be an interesting battle.

I loved Shaq! I thought he was a running back with NFL potential in his sophomore year. He did not, however, improve much after that and I think the Kentucky game injury rendered his career static afterwards. He was solid, no fumbles, a good blocker and pretty much a stabilizing influence for the offense. Turner was far more electric, he could break a long run, unfortunately he also coughed up the ball rather easily. Remember that long run vs PJ Fleck's WMU early in the game in Kzoo? I still think Breck was a special talent but Vann and Ericksen were more solid and he never got the chance to show himself off.

There is no heir apparent at running back this year and I think that is a good thing. Parker and Mackey present differing value propositions due to their size and speed and I am sanguine with that situation. As you say, it will be interesting.

I'm interested in seeing what (if he gets into the rotation) DJ Smith can do. He was a fairly big recruit out of the Dallas area, which is some of the best high school football in the country. He also isn't a typical freshmen since he was actually going to San Jose State last fall but ended up not going (not sure what the story there is). So he could be an instant impact guy.

Boone is also a guy that could make some noise. My guess is you'll see Parker start come game one, but Smith and Boone will get more and more carries as the year goes on.

Another prediction, Grissom plays AT LEAST a small role in the running game (jet-sweeps, reverses, wildcat, hand-offs, etc.).
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Lets look at the TE position

Bryson Cannon 6'2 240 Sr
Thomas Odukuya 6'6 260 Sr
Gunnar Oakes 6'5 250 Jr
Hunter McDaniel 6' 280 R-Fr

Newcomers:

Lucas Luft 6'6 250 Jr.
Zach Hartsfield 6'3 230 Jr.
Jere Getzinger 6'3 235 Fr
Evan Furtney 6'4 210 Fr

My bet is that Cannon will start.

It would be great if both Luft and Hartsfield were 3 to play 2 and we could redshirt both of them. More likely one will.

Getzinger most likely a redshirt. Furtney is a walk on.

Cannon showed some real skills at receiver. I've always liked Oakes as well.
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(06-17-2020 05:17 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Lets look at the TE position

Bryson Cannon 6'2 240 Sr
Thomas Odukuya 6'6 260 Sr
Gunnar Oakes 6'5 250 Jr
Hunter McDaniel 6' 280 R-Fr

Newcomers:

Lucas Luft 6'6 250 Jr.
Zach Hartsfield 6'3 230 Jr.
Jere Getzinger 6'3 235 Fr
Evan Furtney 6'4 210 Fr

My bet is that Cannon will start.

It would be great if both Luft and Hartsfield were 3 to play 2 and we could redshirt both of them. More likely one will.

Getzinger most likely a redshirt. Furtney is a walk on.

Cannon showed some real skills at receiver. I've always liked Oakes as well.

Agree with all of this, the TE group (like the whole offense) seems to be strong. With Cannon, Odukuya, and Oakes all back I don't see many snaps for the new guys (unless of an injury). I'd guess Luft and Hartsfield battle it out to play and not RS.

Getzinger seems interesting. A raw prospecting, mostly a blocking TE as of now. As you said, a RS for sure.
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(06-16-2020 03:09 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  
(06-16-2020 02:53 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(06-16-2020 02:20 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Our season opener at Kentucky was moved to Thursday, Sept. 3rd to avoid conflicts with the Kentucky Derby (which is now Saturday, Sept. 5th).

https://emueagles.com/news/2020/6/16/foo...ept-3.aspx

Luv it. Should get a nice TV broadcast. And the team gets 2 extra days between 1st and 2nd games.

I like when games that first weekend are played on various days like Thurs, Friday, etc.

I'm guessing a national SEC Network broadcast. No other SEC games that night, as of right now.

The schedule on the official website has been updated to show the Thursday change, it also listed it as being on SEC network. Still no game time.
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(06-17-2020 07:24 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 05:17 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Lets look at the TE position

Bryson Cannon 6'2 240 Sr
Thomas Odukuya 6'6 260 Sr
Gunnar Oakes 6'5 250 Jr
Hunter McDaniel 6' 280 R-Fr

Newcomers:

Lucas Luft 6'6 250 Jr.
Zach Hartsfield 6'3 230 Jr.
Jere Getzinger 6'3 235 Fr
Evan Furtney 6'4 210 Fr

My bet is that Cannon will start.

It would be great if both Luft and Hartsfield were 3 to play 2 and we could redshirt both of them. More likely one will.

Getzinger most likely a redshirt. Furtney is a walk on.

Cannon showed some real skills at receiver. I've always liked Oakes as well.

Agree with all of this, the TE group (like the whole offense) seems to be strong. With Cannon, Odukuya, and Oakes all back I don't see many snaps for the new guys (unless of an injury). I'd guess Luft and Hartsfield battle it out to play and not RS.

Getzinger seems interesting. A raw prospecting, mostly a blocking TE as of now. As you said, a RS for sure.

I'd line up Luft in the backfield on short yardage plays.
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(06-17-2020 07:53 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 07:24 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 05:17 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Lets look at the TE position

Bryson Cannon 6'2 240 Sr
Thomas Odukuya 6'6 260 Sr
Gunnar Oakes 6'5 250 Jr
Hunter McDaniel 6' 280 R-Fr

Newcomers:

Lucas Luft 6'6 250 Jr.
Zach Hartsfield 6'3 230 Jr.
Jere Getzinger 6'3 235 Fr
Evan Furtney 6'4 210 Fr

My bet is that Cannon will start.

It would be great if both Luft and Hartsfield were 3 to play 2 and we could redshirt both of them. More likely one will.

Getzinger most likely a redshirt. Furtney is a walk on.

Cannon showed some real skills at receiver. I've always liked Oakes as well.

Agree with all of this, the TE group (like the whole offense) seems to be strong. With Cannon, Odukuya, and Oakes all back I don't see many snaps for the new guys (unless of an injury). I'd guess Luft and Hartsfield battle it out to play and not RS.

Getzinger seems interesting. A raw prospecting, mostly a blocking TE as of now. As you said, a RS for sure.

I'd line up Luft in the backfield on short yardage plays.

The dude is like 6'6. Have him split out and run a pick fade. This TE group is really good and that's a plus for a new QB to have a couple back up options.
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(06-17-2020 10:02 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 07:53 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 07:24 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 05:17 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Lets look at the TE position

Bryson Cannon 6'2 240 Sr
Thomas Odukuya 6'6 260 Sr
Gunnar Oakes 6'5 250 Jr
Hunter McDaniel 6' 280 R-Fr

Newcomers:

Lucas Luft 6'6 250 Jr.
Zach Hartsfield 6'3 230 Jr.
Jere Getzinger 6'3 235 Fr
Evan Furtney 6'4 210 Fr

My bet is that Cannon will start.

It would be great if both Luft and Hartsfield were 3 to play 2 and we could redshirt both of them. More likely one will.

Getzinger most likely a redshirt. Furtney is a walk on.

Cannon showed some real skills at receiver. I've always liked Oakes as well.

Agree with all of this, the TE group (like the whole offense) seems to be strong. With Cannon, Odukuya, and Oakes all back I don't see many snaps for the new guys (unless of an injury). I'd guess Luft and Hartsfield battle it out to play and not RS.

Getzinger seems interesting. A raw prospecting, mostly a blocking TE as of now. As you said, a RS for sure.

I'd line up Luft in the backfield on short yardage plays.

The dude is like 6'6. Have him split out and run a pick fade. This TE group is really good and that's a plus for a new QB to have a couple back up options.

Between the expected talent in the WR corps and the potential talent at TE, if they were able to force defenses to spread due to these threats, it would bode well for the Eagles' run game. I fully expect that the O-line will excel in pass-pro, so if they are able to establish sets across the line and open some holes, this could be a very productive year for Creighton's offense. With Keen out of the picture now, I'm hoping to see more diverse and aggressive schemes on O. This could be exciting!
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(06-18-2020 06:12 AM)cidbearit Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 10:02 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 07:53 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 07:24 PM)Sellers dweller Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 05:17 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Lets look at the TE position

Bryson Cannon 6'2 240 Sr
Thomas Odukuya 6'6 260 Sr
Gunnar Oakes 6'5 250 Jr
Hunter McDaniel 6' 280 R-Fr

Newcomers:

Lucas Luft 6'6 250 Jr.
Zach Hartsfield 6'3 230 Jr.
Jere Getzinger 6'3 235 Fr
Evan Furtney 6'4 210 Fr

My bet is that Cannon will start.

It would be great if both Luft and Hartsfield were 3 to play 2 and we could redshirt both of them. More likely one will.

Getzinger most likely a redshirt. Furtney is a walk on.

Cannon showed some real skills at receiver. I've always liked Oakes as well.

Agree with all of this, the TE group (like the whole offense) seems to be strong. With Cannon, Odukuya, and Oakes all back I don't see many snaps for the new guys (unless of an injury). I'd guess Luft and Hartsfield battle it out to play and not RS.

Getzinger seems interesting. A raw prospecting, mostly a blocking TE as of now. As you said, a RS for sure.

I'd line up Luft in the backfield on short yardage plays.

The dude is like 6'6. Have him split out and run a pick fade. This TE group is really good and that's a plus for a new QB to have a couple back up options.

Between the expected talent in the WR corps and the potential talent at TE, if they were able to force defenses to spread due to these threats, it would bode well for the Eagles' run game. I fully expect that the O-line will excel in pass-pro, so if they are able to establish sets across the line and open some holes, this could be a very productive year for Creighton's offense. With Keen out of the picture now, I'm hoping to see more diverse and aggressive schemes on O. This could be exciting!

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