(03-27-2020 02:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-27-2020 12:26 PM)chip90 Wrote:  Your article provided NO scientific proof that this drug is 100% effective in treating the virus. Trials are still ongoing for it's effectiveness and safety. The following link provides what researchers are doing. Trump is not following the advice of professionals when it comes to treating those infected.
https://www.newsweek.com/2020/04/03/hydr...93349.html

So? If I were dying of CV-19 and had the opportunity to get this drug, I would in a heartbeat. So would you, if you have any sense.

XACLY!

(03-27-2020 12:26 PM)chip90 Wrote:  

(03-27-2020 11:52 AM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/K1erry/status/1243550894731509761

TOUGH TITS TOOTS

Your article provided NO scientific proof that this drug is 100% effective in treating the virus. Trials are still ongoing for it's effectiveness and safety. The following link provides what researchers are doing. Trump is not following the advice of professionals when it comes to treating those infected.

https://www.newsweek.com/2020/04/03/hydr...93349.html

Hey Dr. chip,

What drug is 100% effective? Ever?

When they find that one, then we. can give up on researching others, right Dr chip?

What a dumass post.

Taint nothing ever 100%. Nothing. Ever.

Death and taxes, ok. I’m trying to be positive here

(03-27-2020 01:24 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  If Trump had come out and told the country to not try this potential treatment, then this whore of a Governor would be all over telling doctors to use this treatment. Saving lives means nothing to Dems if it might make Trump look good. They are evil people with no souls.

This.

As he said himself, he should have said “I don’t want a wall! I want open borders and free health care for anyone that wants to stroll on in”.

He’d have a wall and illegal alien restrictions in two months.
Lol

Haters gonna hate.

Dims go’n dim

(03-27-2020 02:32 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  The use of hydroxychloroquine to treat symptomatic patients with Covid-19 has been reported in some retrospective and anecdotal reports. Initially, from France. Small numbers of patients in these reports with variable symptoms. These reports have gotten a lot of (justifiable) attention and there are now SEVERAL scientific randomized studies in the United States to determine if it ACTUALLY works.
You should be aware that since these initial reports regarding the use of hydroxychloroquine and it’s POSSIBLE positive effects in the treatment of this virus, many if not most of the institutions treating these patients have already been using this drug for these patients. In the hospital. In a supervised setting. “Off label” use.
The order from the governor of Michigan seems to be prohibiting the drug’s OUTPATIENT dispensing and prescribing for Covid-19. This would reduce hoarding... in case it actually works, but it also prevents the unsupervised out-patient use because THIS DRUG IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. It has been associated with severe liver problems and, more importantly, it can prolong the Q-T interval causing heart rhythm abnormalities and cardiac arrest.
In short: this drug MAY be helpful in treating patients with Covid-19. It is already being used in hospitals all over the country, including Michigan, in a supervised, monitored, “off label” setting. Many scientific studies are under way to actually see if this drug is helpful. If you take this drug in amounts that are not approved you may overdose and die.
The governor of Michigan, in my opinion, is just trying to prevent people in her state from taking a drug and possibly killing themselves.. when that drug may not be useful in treating Covid-19 at all.

The dumbasss gov of Nevada explicitly said it was because some stupid hucklebuck decided that his aquarium cleaner was the same thing and he and his wife decided to take it for “prevention”. Now he’s banned it for use in the entire state.

Only redeeming value is that it was a preventative. Darwin took care of that.

No baby’s for you!

(03-28-2020 07:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  (years)

(03-27-2020 02:32 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  The use of hydroxychloroquine to treat symptomatic patients with Covid-19 has been reported in some retrospective and anecdotal reports. Initially, from France. Small numbers of patients in these reports with variable symptoms. These reports have gotten a lot of (justifiable) attention and there are now SEVERAL scientific randomized studies in the United States to determine if it ACTUALLY works.
You should be aware that since these initial reports regarding the use of hydroxychloroquine and it’s POSSIBLE positive effects in the treatment of this virus, many if not most of the institutions treating these patients have already been using this drug for these patients. In the hospital. In a supervised setting. “Off label” use.
The order from the governor of Michigan seems to be prohibiting the drug’s OUTPATIENT dispensing and prescribing for Covid-19. This would reduce hoarding... in case it actually works, but it also prevents the unsupervised out-patient use because THIS DRUG IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. It has been associated with severe liver problems and, more importantly, it can prolong the Q-T interval causing heart rhythm abnormalities and cardiac arrest.
In short: this drug MAY be helpful in treating patients with Covid-19. It is already being used in hospitals all over the country, including Michigan, in a supervised, monitored, “off label” setting. Many scientific studies are under way to actually see if this drug is helpful. If you take this drug in amounts that are not approved you may overdose and die.
The governor of Michigan, in my opinion, is just trying to prevent people in her state from taking a drug and possibly killing themselves.. when that drug may not be useful in treating Covid-19 at all.

If you take any damn drug in amounts that are not approved, you may overdose and die.

And I would love to see a link to those side effects. I have looked and found nothing like that. The only one I can find is temp blindness using plaquenil on a long term basis (years). Nothing on Z-Paks.

Apparently in lupus or rheumatoid arthritis (i think it is) long term use.

Plaquenil is hydroxychloroquine (sp)

https://twitter.com/TonyChis1991/status/...7471937536

ABOUT FACE

(03-28-2020 08:36 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-27-2020 02:32 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  The use of hydroxychloroquine to treat symptomatic patients with Covid-19 has been reported in some retrospective and anecdotal reports. Initially, from France. Small numbers of patients in these reports with variable symptoms. These reports have gotten a lot of (justifiable) attention and there are now SEVERAL scientific randomized studies in the United States to determine if it ACTUALLY works.
You should be aware that since these initial reports regarding the use of hydroxychloroquine and it’s POSSIBLE positive effects in the treatment of this virus, many if not most of the institutions treating these patients have already been using this drug for these patients. In the hospital. In a supervised setting. “Off label” use.
The order from the governor of Michigan seems to be prohibiting the drug’s OUTPATIENT dispensing and prescribing for Covid-19. This would reduce hoarding... in case it actually works, but it also prevents the unsupervised out-patient use because THIS DRUG IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. It has been associated with severe liver problems and, more importantly, it can prolong the Q-T interval causing heart rhythm abnormalities and cardiac arrest.
In short: this drug MAY be helpful in treating patients with Covid-19. It is already being used in hospitals all over the country, including Michigan, in a supervised, monitored, “off label” setting. Many scientific studies are under way to actually see if this drug is helpful. If you take this drug in amounts that are not approved you may overdose and die.
The governor of Michigan, in my opinion, is just trying to prevent people in her state from taking a drug and possibly killing themselves.. when that drug may not be useful in treating Covid-19 at all.

The dumbasss gov of Nevada explicitly said it was because some stupid hucklebuck decided that his aquarium cleaner was the same thing and he and his wife decided to take it for “prevention”. Now he’s banned it for use in the entire state.

Only redeeming value is that it was a preventative. Darwin took care of that.

No baby’s for you!

Actually it is looking like his crazy ass ole lady killed him.

(03-28-2020 08:42 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-28-2020 07:53 AM)TripleA Wrote:  (years)

(03-27-2020 02:32 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  The use of hydroxychloroquine to treat symptomatic patients with Covid-19 has been reported in some retrospective and anecdotal reports. Initially, from France. Small numbers of patients in these reports with variable symptoms. These reports have gotten a lot of (justifiable) attention and there are now SEVERAL scientific randomized studies in the United States to determine if it ACTUALLY works.
You should be aware that since these initial reports regarding the use of hydroxychloroquine and it’s POSSIBLE positive effects in the treatment of this virus, many if not most of the institutions treating these patients have already been using this drug for these patients. In the hospital. In a supervised setting. “Off label” use.
The order from the governor of Michigan seems to be prohibiting the drug’s OUTPATIENT dispensing and prescribing for Covid-19. This would reduce hoarding... in case it actually works, but it also prevents the unsupervised out-patient use because THIS DRUG IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. It has been associated with severe liver problems and, more importantly, it can prolong the Q-T interval causing heart rhythm abnormalities and cardiac arrest.
In short: this drug MAY be helpful in treating patients with Covid-19. It is already being used in hospitals all over the country, including Michigan, in a supervised, monitored, “off label” setting. Many scientific studies are under way to actually see if this drug is helpful. If you take this drug in amounts that are not approved you may overdose and die.
The governor of Michigan, in my opinion, is just trying to prevent people in her state from taking a drug and possibly killing themselves.. when that drug may not be useful in treating Covid-19 at all.

If you take any damn drug in amounts that are not approved, you may overdose and die.

And I would love to see a link to those side effects. I have looked and found nothing like that. The only one I can find is temp blindness using plaquenil on a long term basis (years). Nothing on Z-Paks.

Apparently in lupus or rheumatoid arthritis (i think it is) long term use.

Plaquenil is hydroxychloroquine (sp)

Correct, my step mom takes it for her rheumatoid arthritis. She is 69 and still a smoker. Dad passed about 15 years ago. She's a recluse anyway since his passing so hoping for the best for her.

The most serious side-effect of taking Hydroxychorochline and z-pack is the extreme crapping of the pants. Not by the person taking the drugs, but by members of the left.