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RE: Total deaths per 1 million population ...USA looking good
(Yesterday 06:54 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  BTW we announced 27K new cases in the U.S. yesterday (using worldometers numbers) and 1057 new deaths. That's almost a 4 percent mortality rate. You're fooling yourself if you think these are all folks knocking on death's door to begin with.

Yes I realize you can't put those 2 numbers together to produce a mortality rate (unless the 1057 new deaths were all from the 27K new cases). I'm just mentioning those numbers to indict our woeful reporting in states like Texas, California, Washington, North Carolina, etc.
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(Yesterday 07:22 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  
(Yesterday 06:54 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  BTW we announced 27K new cases in the U.S. yesterday (using worldometers numbers) and 1057 new deaths. That's almost a 4 percent mortality rate. You're fooling yourself if you think these are all folks knocking on death's door to begin with.

Yes I realize you can't put those 2 numbers together to produce a mortality rate (unless the 1057 new deaths were all from the 27K new cases). I'm just mentioning those numbers to indict our woeful reporting in states like Texas, California, Washington, North Carolina, etc.

The alternative is that the infection rate is greatly accelerating and not being captured due to limited testing.

We'll never know the real numbers unless 1) all 300+ million of us are tested for the virus and 2) the corona virus death statistics are accurate - meaning people with chronic illnesses aren't being reclassified as corona deaths because of a positive test.
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(03-30-2020 03:32 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Michigan's numbers announced today were pretty bad. Over 1000 new cases in 1 day and 52 new deaths (almost all in the Detroit metro area). Since that area has well over 3 times as many people as New Orleans, I think it's pretty safe to say that's now the #2 worst area in the country (outside of NYC) - New Orleans will have the higher death rate per 1 million population, but Detroit's numbers will be much higher by the end of the week (plus it's cooler weather so that doesn't help matters either).

ETA - what we need to figure out though is why is NYC so much worse than say Philly or Boston, and why is Detroit so much worse than Chicago?
Just a guess, but demographics. This disease came from the traveling class. Dont know much about Detroit so I won't guess on that, but Philly is a lot more segregated than NY. Not much public transportation in Philly and very little mix between the traveling class and the poor. I would guess the virus isn't doing much in the black community there whereas the traveling class is likely more apt to comply with social distancing.

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(Yesterday 07:29 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-30-2020 03:32 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Michigan's numbers announced today were pretty bad. Over 1000 new cases in 1 day and 52 new deaths (almost all in the Detroit metro area). Since that area has well over 3 times as many people as New Orleans, I think it's pretty safe to say that's now the #2 worst area in the country (outside of NYC) - New Orleans will have the higher death rate per 1 million population, but Detroit's numbers will be much higher by the end of the week (plus it's cooler weather so that doesn't help matters either).
ETA - what we need to figure out though is why is NYC so much worse than say Philly or Boston, and why is Detroit so much worse than Chicago?
Just a guess, but demographics. This disease came from the traveling class. Dont know much about Detroit so I won't guess on that, but Philly is a lot more segregated than NY. Not much public transportation in Philly and very little mix between the traveling class and the poor. I would guess the virus isn't doing much in the black community there whereas the traveling class is likely more apt to comply with social distancing.
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Very poor--or no--public transportation in Detroit--it's the hone of the auto industry, remember--versus heavy reliance on public transportation in New Orleans.
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(Yesterday 07:49 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 07:29 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-30-2020 03:32 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Michigan's numbers announced today were pretty bad. Over 1000 new cases in 1 day and 52 new deaths (almost all in the Detroit metro area). Since that area has well over 3 times as many people as New Orleans, I think it's pretty safe to say that's now the #2 worst area in the country (outside of NYC) - New Orleans will have the higher death rate per 1 million population, but Detroit's numbers will be much higher by the end of the week (plus it's cooler weather so that doesn't help matters either).
ETA - what we need to figure out though is why is NYC so much worse than say Philly or Boston, and why is Detroit so much worse than Chicago?
Just a guess, but demographics. This disease came from the traveling class. Dont know much about Detroit so I won't guess on that, but Philly is a lot more segregated than NY. Not much public transportation in Philly and very little mix between the traveling class and the poor. I would guess the virus isn't doing much in the black community there whereas the traveling class is likely more apt to comply with social distancing.
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Very poor--or no--public transportation in Detroit--it's the hone of the auto industry, remember--versus heavy reliance on public transportation in New Orleans.

New Orleans is so high due to the poor health of the citizens.
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The model from last Wed stating that Michigan’s confirmed cases will double every 3 days is still on track...model predicted 10,000 cases by midweek and 25,000 cases by this coming Sunday. As of Tuesday the totals jumped to 9,500.
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(Yesterday 06:54 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://nbc25news.com/news/coronavirus/g...oronavirus

20 year old who died (his father had passed from the virus days earlier) -- https://nbc25news.com/news/coronavirus/g...oronavirus
44 year old state politician dies from virus - https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch...-infection

Do you really want me to find links on 335 others? Plus the 50 to 60 new ones with each day? I can try when I'm home but I do have to go to work in just a few minutes. In the meantime, why don't you try googling about the stories of the 31-year-old perfectly healthy male nurse in NYC who died a few days ago? That actually might be able to produce several different links.

BTW we announced 27K new cases in the U.S. yesterday (using worldometers numbers) and 1057 new deaths. That's almost a 4 percent mortality rate. You're fooling yourself if you think these are all folks knocking on death's door to begin with.

There seems to be a contingent of folks who still have a vested interest in convincing themselves that this is overblown.
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(Yesterday 07:29 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-30-2020 03:32 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Michigan's numbers announced today were pretty bad. Over 1000 new cases in 1 day and 52 new deaths (almost all in the Detroit metro area). Since that area has well over 3 times as many people as New Orleans, I think it's pretty safe to say that's now the #2 worst area in the country (outside of NYC) - New Orleans will have the higher death rate per 1 million population, but Detroit's numbers will be much higher by the end of the week (plus it's cooler weather so that doesn't help matters either).

ETA - what we need to figure out though is why is NYC so much worse than say Philly or Boston, and why is Detroit so much worse than Chicago?
Just a guess, but demographics. This disease came from the traveling class. Dont know much about Detroit so I won't guess on that, but Philly is a lot more segregated than NY. Not much public transportation in Philly and very little mix between the traveling class and the poor. I would guess the virus isn't doing much in the black community there whereas the traveling class is likely more apt to comply with social distancing.

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Greater Detroit has a large Indian, Middle Eastern and Asian population and so many businesses are intertwined in the worldwide auto industry supply chain that there is a ton of international travel going on among the folks who live in the region.
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(Yesterday 08:53 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 07:29 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-30-2020 03:32 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Michigan's numbers announced today were pretty bad. Over 1000 new cases in 1 day and 52 new deaths (almost all in the Detroit metro area). Since that area has well over 3 times as many people as New Orleans, I think it's pretty safe to say that's now the #2 worst area in the country (outside of NYC) - New Orleans will have the higher death rate per 1 million population, but Detroit's numbers will be much higher by the end of the week (plus it's cooler weather so that doesn't help matters either).

ETA - what we need to figure out though is why is NYC so much worse than say Philly or Boston, and why is Detroit so much worse than Chicago?
Just a guess, but demographics. This disease came from the traveling class. Dont know much about Detroit so I won't guess on that, but Philly is a lot more segregated than NY. Not much public transportation in Philly and very little mix between the traveling class and the poor. I would guess the virus isn't doing much in the black community there whereas the traveling class is likely more apt to comply with social distancing.

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Greater Detroit has a large Indian, Middle Eastern and Asian population and so many businesses are intertwined in the worldwide auto industry supply chain that there is a ton of international travel going on among the folks who live in the region.
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(Yesterday 08:53 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 07:29 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-30-2020 03:32 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Michigan's numbers announced today were pretty bad. Over 1000 new cases in 1 day and 52 new deaths (almost all in the Detroit metro area). Since that area has well over 3 times as many people as New Orleans, I think it's pretty safe to say that's now the #2 worst area in the country (outside of NYC) - New Orleans will have the higher death rate per 1 million population, but Detroit's numbers will be much higher by the end of the week (plus it's cooler weather so that doesn't help matters either).

ETA - what we need to figure out though is why is NYC so much worse than say Philly or Boston, and why is Detroit so much worse than Chicago?
Just a guess, but demographics. This disease came from the traveling class. Dont know much about Detroit so I won't guess on that, but Philly is a lot more segregated than NY. Not much public transportation in Philly and very little mix between the traveling class and the poor. I would guess the virus isn't doing much in the black community there whereas the traveling class is likely more apt to comply with social distancing.

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Greater Detroit has a large Indian, Middle Eastern and Asian population and so many businesses are intertwined in the worldwide auto industry supply chain that there is a ton of international travel going on among the folks who live in the region.

Week 11 of 2020 had the lowest number of Pneumonia deaths of any week since week 40 of 2013, which is as far back as the CDC data goes back to. Anybody want to gander at why this is? My guess is for years these deaths were being contributed to "Pneumonia" and not CoVid-19. Now these deaths are from something new that is currently being tested for. Since CoVid-19 deaths have begun in America (around week 6 of 2020) there has been a marked decline in the number of Pneumonia deaths. Coincidence? We shall see if as the number of CoVid-19 deaths increase, Pneumonia deaths continue to decrease to RECORD low numbers. Also of note is the total number of deaths in America for this most recent week. It is well below 40,000 at 37k+. This number is unheard of for this graph as this number rarely gets under 50,000 and sometimes goes as high as 60,000.
Weekly Pneumonia and Flu deaths in America
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(Yesterday 09:16 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(Yesterday 08:53 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 07:29 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(03-30-2020 03:32 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Michigan's numbers announced today were pretty bad. Over 1000 new cases in 1 day and 52 new deaths (almost all in the Detroit metro area). Since that area has well over 3 times as many people as New Orleans, I think it's pretty safe to say that's now the #2 worst area in the country (outside of NYC) - New Orleans will have the higher death rate per 1 million population, but Detroit's numbers will be much higher by the end of the week (plus it's cooler weather so that doesn't help matters either).

ETA - what we need to figure out though is why is NYC so much worse than say Philly or Boston, and why is Detroit so much worse than Chicago?
Just a guess, but demographics. This disease came from the traveling class. Dont know much about Detroit so I won't guess on that, but Philly is a lot more segregated than NY. Not much public transportation in Philly and very little mix between the traveling class and the poor. I would guess the virus isn't doing much in the black community there whereas the traveling class is likely more apt to comply with social distancing.

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Greater Detroit has a large Indian, Middle Eastern and Asian population and so many businesses are intertwined in the worldwide auto industry supply chain that there is a ton of international travel going on among the folks who live in the region.

Week 11 of 2020 had the lowest number of Pneumonia deaths of any week since week 40 of 2013, which is as far back as the CDC data goes back to. Anybody want to gander at why this is? My guess is for years these deaths were being contributed to "Pneumonia" and not CoVid-19. Now these deaths are from something new that is currently being tested for. Since CoVid-19 deaths have begun in America (around week 6 of 2020) there has been a marked decline in the number of Pneumonia deaths. Coincidence? We shall see if as the number of CoVid-19 deaths increase, Pneumonia deaths continue to decrease to RECORD low numbers. Also of note is the total number of deaths in America for this most recent week. It is well below 40,000 at 37k+. This number is unheard of for this graph as this number rarely gets under 50,000 and sometimes goes as high as 60,000.
Weekly Pneumonia and Flu deaths in America

no....it is not coincidence....it's easily a misrepresentation due to a crock of fk'n bs....

it's disgusting the amt. of deaths being 'scripted' as covid19.....

the virus is real....the stats are bs....
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