Dems playing politics with this is just more proof that they are scum. They know with 6 Rep. Senators not being able to vote because of having to stay sheltered, they will win. May every evil thing they do come back to them in spades.

(03-23-2020 07:06 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Dems playing politics with this is just more proof that they are scum. They know with 6 Rep. Senators not being able to vote because of having to stay sheltered, they will win. May every evil thing they do come back to them in spades.

SO online voting is fine for elections, but NOT for senate votes that should say something about the trust and security of online voting.

(03-23-2020 06:51 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 05:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 04:54 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Serious question: Why don't they just pass the consumer/worker bailout first, then deal with the contentious parts of the deal? Who would say no to that? Both sides would look stupid saying no.

I'm not someone who usually heavily discusses politics, but that seems like it would cut out all this partisan BS and start things moving. Blaming Republicans or Democrats is stupid and akin to a playground fight at school, which is pretty typical government behavior in this era.

Just pass the bill to get the checks rolling to people who actually need it now. It's going to be a process to get those out the door anyway, the sooner it starts the better. Corporate America will get their money too, but that's the holdup.

What good is it going to do to send checks to the people if there's nowhere for them to spend them? A proper economic stimulus is spread throughout the economy, from the top to the bottom. Otherwise it's good money thrown at a bad solution.

People are in need now to have money to buy groceries. Now a lot of people will just sit on the checks since they are still working. But the time to means test would stretch it out forever. Even so, a lot of the people who most need it are mobile. So how do they get their checks if they've moved 3 times in the last year? It will take a while even if giving everyone a check.

To buy groceries there has to be somewhere to buy them from.

(03-23-2020 03:16 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Pelosi should be ashamed

You must have morals to be ashamed. She is an abomination as a person and leader.

I was talking to staunch Liberal Democrat this afternoon that expressed his disgust at what Pelosi did. This is going to come back to haunt the leftist moonbats. They have given Trump and ALL the Congressional candidates prime ammunition going forward.

(03-23-2020 07:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 03:16 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Pelosi should be ashamed

You must have morals to be ashamed. She is an abomination as a person and leader.

let's review, Alex

A: Perez, Pelosi, AND the Schmuckster

Q: who is the triumvirate dialed-in to 666, 24/7/365.25?!

(03-23-2020 10:22 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  This is a water is wet post but Schumer is such a swarmy clown...perhaps if he ever actually held a job that wasn’t an elected office post law school 50 years ago he’d understand the importance to normal working people of getting this passed without a whose got a bigger d!ck competition.

if there was ever a person I would punch immediately upon a first meeting??? yeah, it would be that shitefk'r....

he's pure fk'n slime....san fran nan ain' far behind in that 'pew'....

All you prog filth, muh check ain't happening. Thank Schumer and Pelosi.

Lol

Woods nails it again...'

(03-23-2020 05:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 04:54 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Serious question: Why don't they just pass the consumer/worker bailout first, then deal with the contentious parts of the deal? Who would say no to that? Both sides would look stupid saying no.

I'm not someone who usually heavily discusses politics, but that seems like it would cut out all this partisan BS and start things moving. Blaming Republicans or Democrats is stupid and akin to a playground fight at school, which is pretty typical government behavior in this era.

Just pass the bill to get the checks rolling to people who actually need it now. It's going to be a process to get those out the door anyway, the sooner it starts the better. Corporate America will get their money too, but that's the holdup.

What good is it going to do to send checks to the people if there's nowhere for them to spend them? A proper economic stimulus is spread throughout the economy, from the top to the bottom. Otherwise it's good money thrown at a bad solution.

Hookers and blow bruh.

That money will make it back to the economy...

(03-23-2020 07:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 06:51 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 05:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 04:54 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Serious question: Why don't they just pass the consumer/worker bailout first, then deal with the contentious parts of the deal? Who would say no to that? Both sides would look stupid saying no.

I'm not someone who usually heavily discusses politics, but that seems like it would cut out all this partisan BS and start things moving. Blaming Republicans or Democrats is stupid and akin to a playground fight at school, which is pretty typical government behavior in this era.

Just pass the bill to get the checks rolling to people who actually need it now. It's going to be a process to get those out the door anyway, the sooner it starts the better. Corporate America will get their money too, but that's the holdup.

What good is it going to do to send checks to the people if there's nowhere for them to spend them? A proper economic stimulus is spread throughout the economy, from the top to the bottom. Otherwise it's good money thrown at a bad solution.

People are in need now to have money to buy groceries. Now a lot of people will just sit on the checks since they are still working. But the time to means test would stretch it out forever. Even so, a lot of the people who most need it are mobile. So how do they get their checks if they've moved 3 times in the last year? It will take a while even if giving everyone a check.

To buy groceries there has to be somewhere to buy them from.

The groceries are all still open everywhere. They have shortages of certain items (beef, eggs, toilet paper), but still have a lot of food.

(03-24-2020 04:30 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 05:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 04:54 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Serious question: Why don't they just pass the consumer/worker bailout first, then deal with the contentious parts of the deal? Who would say no to that? Both sides would look stupid saying no.

I'm not someone who usually heavily discusses politics, but that seems like it would cut out all this partisan BS and start things moving. Blaming Republicans or Democrats is stupid and akin to a playground fight at school, which is pretty typical government behavior in this era.

Just pass the bill to get the checks rolling to people who actually need it now. It's going to be a process to get those out the door anyway, the sooner it starts the better. Corporate America will get their money too, but that's the holdup.

What good is it going to do to send checks to the people if there's nowhere for them to spend them? A proper economic stimulus is spread throughout the economy, from the top to the bottom. Otherwise it's good money thrown at a bad solution.

Hookers and blow bruh.

That money will make it back to the economy...

Tony Soprano: And I don't want to hear about the freaking economy either! I don't want to hear it. Sil, break it down for them. What two businesses have traditionally been recession proof since time immemorial?

Silvio Dante: Certain aspects of show business...and our thing.

Tony Soprano: Now that's it. That's all I've gotta say. Frankly, I'm depressed and ashamed

(03-24-2020 08:54 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 07:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 06:51 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 05:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 04:54 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Serious question: Why don't they just pass the consumer/worker bailout first, then deal with the contentious parts of the deal? Who would say no to that? Both sides would look stupid saying no.

I'm not someone who usually heavily discusses politics, but that seems like it would cut out all this partisan BS and start things moving. Blaming Republicans or Democrats is stupid and akin to a playground fight at school, which is pretty typical government behavior in this era.

Just pass the bill to get the checks rolling to people who actually need it now. It's going to be a process to get those out the door anyway, the sooner it starts the better. Corporate America will get their money too, but that's the holdup.

What good is it going to do to send checks to the people if there's nowhere for them to spend them? A proper economic stimulus is spread throughout the economy, from the top to the bottom. Otherwise it's good money thrown at a bad solution.

People are in need now to have money to buy groceries. Now a lot of people will just sit on the checks since they are still working. But the time to means test would stretch it out forever. Even so, a lot of the people who most need it are mobile. So how do they get their checks if they've moved 3 times in the last year? It will take a while even if giving everyone a check.

To buy groceries there has to be somewhere to buy them from.

The groceries are all still open everywhere. They have shortages of certain items (beef, eggs, toilet paper), but still have a lot of food.

Yep, at least in VA grocery stores and the liquor stores are considered "essential" and open for business.

We are still open for business down here, except if you are from the Northeast.

(03-24-2020 09:23 AM)fsquid Wrote:  We are still open for business down here, except if you are from the Northeast.

That's discrimination.

How dare you

(03-23-2020 05:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 04:54 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Serious question: Why don't they just pass the consumer/worker bailout first, then deal with the contentious parts of the deal? Who would say no to that? Both sides would look stupid saying no.

I'm not someone who usually heavily discusses politics, but that seems like it would cut out all this partisan BS and start things moving. Blaming Republicans or Democrats is stupid and akin to a playground fight at school, which is pretty typical government behavior in this era.

Just pass the bill to get the checks rolling to people who actually need it now. It's going to be a process to get those out the door anyway, the sooner it starts the better. Corporate America will get their money too, but that's the holdup.

What good is it going to do to send checks to the people if there's nowhere for them to spend them? A proper economic stimulus is spread throughout the economy, from the top to the bottom. Otherwise it's good money thrown at a bad solution.

Sure, I’m with you. And I don’t mean don’t pass the rest of the stimulus

I just know that if I was pitching my board on an emergency proposal, and there was a contentious debate on part of the proposal but there was a universally agreed upon part that was going to take time to implement, I would have them pass that so the project could start knowing that the rest of the details could be worked out in short order. Run on sentence, but I think people can understand my point. This is something I’d only do in emergency situations, but that’s what we’re in.

Either way, these school children in Washington need to work this out. Playing the blame game does nothing for me.

(03-24-2020 08:54 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 07:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 06:51 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 05:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-23-2020 04:54 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  Serious question: Why don't they just pass the consumer/worker bailout first, then deal with the contentious parts of the deal? Who would say no to that? Both sides would look stupid saying no.

I'm not someone who usually heavily discusses politics, but that seems like it would cut out all this partisan BS and start things moving. Blaming Republicans or Democrats is stupid and akin to a playground fight at school, which is pretty typical government behavior in this era.

Just pass the bill to get the checks rolling to people who actually need it now. It's going to be a process to get those out the door anyway, the sooner it starts the better. Corporate America will get their money too, but that's the holdup.

What good is it going to do to send checks to the people if there's nowhere for them to spend them? A proper economic stimulus is spread throughout the economy, from the top to the bottom. Otherwise it's good money thrown at a bad solution.

People are in need now to have money to buy groceries. Now a lot of people will just sit on the checks since they are still working. But the time to means test would stretch it out forever. Even so, a lot of the people who most need it are mobile. So how do they get their checks if they've moved 3 times in the last year? It will take a while even if giving everyone a check.

To buy groceries there has to be somewhere to buy them from.

The groceries are all still open everywhere. They have shortages of certain items (beef, eggs, toilet paper), but still have a lot of food.

I went last night to both Food Lions and a Publix here in town to get trash bags and laundry detergent. The only fresh meat in any of them was two packs of veal cutlets in one Food Lion and four packs of tripe in the other Food Lion. Almost no frozen vegetables in any of them, and the fresh produce had been picked over and looked so bad that it was only suitable as hog food. Three stores to get two items. reduced open hours so they can thoroughly clean the store and stock what little is coming in from an overtaxed logistical system.

For the first time that I can remember our Waffle Houses are closed. They weren't getting enough takeout meals to break even, much less turn a profit so they shut the doors. Waffle Houses were the only things open during the Blizzard of '93 and countless hurricanes, but are closed now.

It's not a true economic stimulus unless it stimulates ALL levels of the economy. The idea that just cutting checks to the people is going to have any measurable effect is asinine.

(03-23-2020 10:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

Aint this the truth.

#dregsofsociety

John Kennedy is all of us now.

We have had companies step up to manufacture ventilators, plus ventilators can be made from machines used in surgery with one minor change and they are working on that. As for the masks Hanes stepped up (without being FORCED to) and will be producing masks. Democrats are stinking Communists that want to put their procedures in place. Screw them.