Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 11:56 AM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:17 AM)GoodOwl Wrote: I heard this on the overnight news. Good to hear if true. makes all this shutdown worth it? Nope, but maybe we can go ahead and end it sooner than they thought and just treat those who get sick if these medicines are in easy reach and good supply. Are they? Get those engines restarted!
I heard somebody last night say they are old medicines in ample supply, but I'm sure the ingredients are made in China, lol.
The one, chloroquine has been in use for 70+ years. Very little if any MAJOR downside from what I understand.
The Zpack has been around for probably at least 20(?). Both are in good supply, but yes. Your question about whether we’re reliant on the lying commies for it came to mind as well.
Sadly, my bet is yes.
We’ve really managed to screw the pooch on a lot of this over time, haven’t we?
(This post was last modified: 03-21-2020 02:32 PM by JMUDunk.)
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 12:09 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:56 AM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:17 AM)GoodOwl Wrote: I heard this on the overnight news. Good to hear if true. makes all this shutdown worth it? Nope, but maybe we can go ahead and end it sooner than they thought and just treat those who get sick if these medicines are in easy reach and good supply. Are they? Get those engines restarted!
I heard somebody last night say they are old medicines in ample supply, but I'm sure the ingredients are made in China, lol.
Looks like, besides the millions of doses Trump ordered from Bayer, that Israels TECA is making 6million doses available to the US. They have already scaled up production going forward.
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 11:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:
(03-21-2020 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Get this on the street ASAP. Trump is right to tell FDA to expedite, expedite, expedite.
The good news is that these are things that have been in use for some time, so any side effects should be well documented, which cuts the clinical trial process down by a bunch.
And frankly, if I'm dying of CV-19 (I'm not) then I want it, and if it makes hair grow out of my eyeballs then I'll deal with that later.
There are no side effects to either drug. Everybody has had a a Zpack. I was saying that was always the drug of choice for those bad sinus infections when nothing else works. And the other drug is being used as a prophylactic against malaria for use in Africa, and has just about gotten rid of it.
I have two patients that are regulars at my pharmacy who are now blind from plaquenil...
So, since the cisco tech who never worked in IT, but became a security guard then transitioned into a pharmacy tech is now hiding from his post, lets get the facts straight. Plaquenil can cause retinal damage for some patients who take very high doses and/or take it for a very long time. Neither are the use case for Covid 19. These would be cases for those with lupus, RA, or other diseases which require taking the medication for a very long time.
hiding? after working 57 hours last week at a location with lines around the store I slept a lot today in between house cleaning and laundry...I never said you or anyone else will go blind, I simply stated I know 2 patients who went blind after taking Plaquenil so I might talk to a MD before taking it and assuming there are no side effects. as for my CCENT it was included in the price of my tuition so of course I took it, why wouldn't I? I rather enjoy working in Pharmacy but the past two weeks have been rather rough.
Monday:
Tuesday:
Wed:
it just went on like that til Friday...but yeah, I guess I'm hiding
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 11:15 AM)CapCityTiger Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:
(03-21-2020 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Get this on the street ASAP. Trump is right to tell FDA to expedite, expedite, expedite.
The good news is that these are things that have been in use for some time, so any side effects should be well documented, which cuts the clinical trial process down by a bunch.
And frankly, if I'm dying of CV-19 (I'm not) then I want it, and if it makes hair grow out of my eyeballs then I'll deal with that later.
There are no side effects to either drug. Everybody has had a a Zpack. I was saying that was always the drug of choice for those bad sinus infections when nothing else works. And the other drug is being used as a prophylactic against malaria for use in Africa, and has just about gotten rid of it.
I have two patients that are regulars at my pharmacy who are now blind from plaquenil...
So, since the cisco tech who never worked in IT, but became a security guard then transitioned into a pharmacy tech is now hiding from his post, lets get the facts straight. Plaquenil can cause retinal damage for some patients who take very high doses and/or take it for a very long time. Neither are the use case for Covid 19. These would be cases for those with lupus, RA, or other diseases which require taking the medication for a very long time.
Didn't he work at Fresh Market too?
I did, for 2 years...it was a really good company until they sold it off to a equity fund. (just like Wild Oats Market before them)
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:
(03-21-2020 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Get this on the street ASAP. Trump is right to tell FDA to expedite, expedite, expedite.
The good news is that these are things that have been in use for some time, so any side effects should be well documented, which cuts the clinical trial process down by a bunch.
And frankly, if I'm dying of CV-19 (I'm not) then I want it, and if it makes hair grow out of my eyeballs then I'll deal with that later.
There are no side effects to either drug. Everybody has had a a Zpack. I was saying that was always the drug of choice for those bad sinus infections when nothing else works. And the other drug is being used as a prophylactic against malaria for use in Africa, and has just about gotten rid of it.
I have two patients that are regulars at my pharmacy who are now blind from plaquenil...
So, since the cisco tech who never worked in IT, but became a security guard then transitioned into a pharmacy tech is now hiding from his post, lets get the facts straight. Plaquenil can cause retinal damage for some patients who take very high doses and/or take it for a very long time. Neither are the use case for Covid 19. These would be cases for those with lupus, RA, or other diseases which require taking the medication for a very long time.
hiding? after working 57 hours last week at a location with lines around the store I slept a lot today in between house cleaning and laundry...I never said you or anyone else will go blind, I simply stated I know 2 patients who went blind after taking Plaquenil so I might talk to a MD before taking it and assuming there are no side effects. as for my CCENT it was included in the price of my tuition so of course I took it, why wouldn't I? I rather enjoy working in Pharmacy but the past two weeks have been rather rough.
Monday:
Tuesday:
Wed:
it just went on like that til Friday...but yeah, I guess I'm hiding
Those people are in line for toilet paper. So I guess you've been reasssigned at the store?
Also, what you reported is likely a HIPPA violation. So maybe you should be working toilet paper.
(This post was last modified: 03-21-2020 06:10 PM by UofMstateU.)
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 06:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: There are no side effects to either drug. Everybody has had a a Zpack. I was saying that was always the drug of choice for those bad sinus infections when nothing else works. And the other drug is being used as a prophylactic against malaria for use in Africa, and has just about gotten rid of it.
I have two patients that are regulars at my pharmacy who are now blind from plaquenil...
So, since the cisco tech who never worked in IT, but became a security guard then transitioned into a pharmacy tech is now hiding from his post, lets get the facts straight. Plaquenil can cause retinal damage for some patients who take very high doses and/or take it for a very long time. Neither are the use case for Covid 19. These would be cases for those with lupus, RA, or other diseases which require taking the medication for a very long time.
hiding? after working 57 hours last week at a location with lines around the store I slept a lot today in between house cleaning and laundry...I never said you or anyone else will go blind, I simply stated I know 2 patients who went blind after taking Plaquenil so I might talk to a MD before taking it and assuming there are no side effects. as for my CCENT it was included in the price of my tuition so of course I took it, why wouldn't I? I rather enjoy working in Pharmacy but the past two weeks have been rather rough.
Monday:
Tuesday:
Wed:
it just went on like that til Friday...but yeah, I guess I'm hiding
Those people are in line for toilet paper. So I guess you've been reasssigned at the store?
Also, what you reported is likely a HIPPA violation. So maybe you should be working toilet paper.
I know of no law shielding anyone from TP hoarding shame. no, I did not give pt age, sex, color, orientation, underlying health factor, or any identifiable PHI but thank you for your feedback...yes, filling 90 day scripts for cash/discount card has become common with this hoarding we're seeing leading to 3 times more dispensing for me. (aka more hours)
(This post was last modified: 03-21-2020 06:18 PM by UofMemphis.)
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 06:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 06:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: I have two patients that are regulars at my pharmacy who are now blind from plaquenil...
So, since the cisco tech who never worked in IT, but became a security guard then transitioned into a pharmacy tech is now hiding from his post, lets get the facts straight. Plaquenil can cause retinal damage for some patients who take very high doses and/or take it for a very long time. Neither are the use case for Covid 19. These would be cases for those with lupus, RA, or other diseases which require taking the medication for a very long time.
hiding? after working 57 hours last week at a location with lines around the store I slept a lot today in between house cleaning and laundry...I never said you or anyone else will go blind, I simply stated I know 2 patients who went blind after taking Plaquenil so I might talk to a MD before taking it and assuming there are no side effects. as for my CCENT it was included in the price of my tuition so of course I took it, why wouldn't I? I rather enjoy working in Pharmacy but the past two weeks have been rather rough.
Monday:
Tuesday:
Wed:
it just went on like that til Friday...but yeah, I guess I'm hiding
Those people are in line for toilet paper. So I guess you've been reasssigned at the store?
Also, what you reported is likely a HIPPA violation. So maybe you should be working toilet paper.
I know of no law shielding anyone from TP hoarding shame. no, I did not give pt age, sex, color, orientation, underlying health factor, or any identifiable PHI but thank you for your feedback...yes, filling 90 day scripts for cash/discount card has become common with this hoarding we're seeing leading to 3 times more dispensing for me. (aka more hours)
For being so busy, you sure were able to read the daily talking points from Bloomberg today and propagate that.
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 06:20 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 06:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 06:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: So, since the cisco tech who never worked in IT, but became a security guard then transitioned into a pharmacy tech is now hiding from his post, lets get the facts straight. Plaquenil can cause retinal damage for some patients who take very high doses and/or take it for a very long time. Neither are the use case for Covid 19. These would be cases for those with lupus, RA, or other diseases which require taking the medication for a very long time.
hiding? after working 57 hours last week at a location with lines around the store I slept a lot today in between house cleaning and laundry...I never said you or anyone else will go blind, I simply stated I know 2 patients who went blind after taking Plaquenil so I might talk to a MD before taking it and assuming there are no side effects. as for my CCENT it was included in the price of my tuition so of course I took it, why wouldn't I? I rather enjoy working in Pharmacy but the past two weeks have been rather rough.
Monday:
Tuesday:
Wed:
it just went on like that til Friday...but yeah, I guess I'm hiding
Those people are in line for toilet paper. So I guess you've been reasssigned at the store?
Also, what you reported is likely a HIPPA violation. So maybe you should be working toilet paper.
I know of no law shielding anyone from TP hoarding shame. no, I did not give pt age, sex, color, orientation, underlying health factor, or any identifiable PHI but thank you for your feedback...yes, filling 90 day scripts for cash/discount card has become common with this hoarding we're seeing leading to 3 times more dispensing for me. (aka more hours)
For being so busy, you sure were able to read the daily talking points from Bloomberg today and propagate that.
yeah, I enjoy having weekends off. Sam's Pharmacy is closed every Sunday, all major holidays, has no drive-through, pays better than WAGS, CVS, Rite Aid, and treats their employees well (we're getting a 300 dollar bonus for dealing with all this BS the past 2-3 weeks)
now, I have to do something I really hate...folding laundry
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 06:21 PM)shere khan Wrote: Does Tonic water have enough quinine to make a difference?
Asking for a friend.
Nothing I have seen gives any clue as to the dosage they are using. I know you'd have to drink a lot to get to the amount of one pill. A LOT. But for all we know they are giving 1/2 a pill a day. We don't know.
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:
(03-21-2020 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Get this on the street ASAP. Trump is right to tell FDA to expedite, expedite, expedite.
The good news is that these are things that have been in use for some time, so any side effects should be well documented, which cuts the clinical trial process down by a bunch.
And frankly, if I'm dying of CV-19 (I'm not) then I want it, and if it makes hair grow out of my eyeballs then I'll deal with that later.
There are no side effects to either drug. Everybody has had a a Zpack. I was saying that was always the drug of choice for those bad sinus infections when nothing else works. And the other drug is being used as a prophylactic against malaria for use in Africa, and has just about gotten rid of it.
Incorrect. Plaquenil can cause q-t elongation which is dangerous in heart patients. It can send them into v-tach or v-fib. No medicine is without it’s side effects.
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-21-2020 06:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: There are no side effects to either drug. Everybody has had a a Zpack. I was saying that was always the drug of choice for those bad sinus infections when nothing else works. And the other drug is being used as a prophylactic against malaria for use in Africa, and has just about gotten rid of it.
I have two patients that are regulars at my pharmacy who are now blind from plaquenil...
So, since the cisco tech who never worked in IT, but became a security guard then transitioned into a pharmacy tech is now hiding from his post, lets get the facts straight. Plaquenil can cause retinal damage for some patients who take very high doses and/or take it for a very long time. Neither are the use case for Covid 19. These would be cases for those with lupus, RA, or other diseases which require taking the medication for a very long time.
hiding? after working 57 hours last week at a location with lines around the store I slept a lot today in between house cleaning and laundry...I never said you or anyone else will go blind, I simply stated I know 2 patients who went blind after taking Plaquenil so I might talk to a MD before taking it and assuming there are no side effects. as for my CCENT it was included in the price of my tuition so of course I took it, why wouldn't I? I rather enjoy working in Pharmacy but the past two weeks have been rather rough.
Monday:
Tuesday:
Wed:
it just went on like that til Friday...but yeah, I guess I'm hiding
Those people are in line for toilet paper. So I guess you've been reasssigned at the store?
Also, what you reported is likely a HIPPA violation. So maybe you should be working toilet paper.
Oh ffs there was no HIPPA violation in any of what he posted. HIPPA is one of the worst things in health care right now.
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 07:02 AM)dfarr Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:
(03-21-2020 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Get this on the street ASAP. Trump is right to tell FDA to expedite, expedite, expedite.
The good news is that these are things that have been in use for some time, so any side effects should be well documented, which cuts the clinical trial process down by a bunch.
And frankly, if I'm dying of CV-19 (I'm not) then I want it, and if it makes hair grow out of my eyeballs then I'll deal with that later.
There are no side effects to either drug. Everybody has had a a Zpack. I was saying that was always the drug of choice for those bad sinus infections when nothing else works. And the other drug is being used as a prophylactic against malaria for use in Africa, and has just about gotten rid of it.
Incorrect. Plaquenil can cause q-t elongation which is dangerous in heart patients. It can send them into v-tach or v-fib. No medicine is without it’s side effects.
I heard Dr. Drew Pinsky talk on this last night. He has been prescribing both of these medicines for years, for RA and lupus, among others.
His take is the bad side effects appear only with chronic use. His medical opinion is that a run of 2 weeks or so to combat Covid-19 is likely not going to hurt anybody, and it could save lives, and certainly reduce the duration and lighten the effects.
Not me saying that. Him.
And they still require prescriptions, so discuss it with your doc if you have an underlying condition, as you should do with anything.
(This post was last modified: 03-22-2020 07:29 AM by TripleA.)
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
Well, sometimes you just have to say damn the side effects.
If I'm dying of CV-19, and this cures it, but makes hair grow out of my eyeballs, I can deal with that later. If I don't take it, I won't be around for that.
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 09:42 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Well, sometimes you just have to say damn the side effects.
If I'm dying of CV-19, and this cures it, but makes hair grow out of my eyeballs, I can deal with that later. If I don't take it, I won't be around for that.
it is that simple in scope....
sign the waiver and hope for the best when in the pickle barrel is easily best method....the other alternative is certain death if such is terminal....
if it doesn't work, the end result is the same....
hell, visual hair management would potentially open up another untapped market....
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 07:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-22-2020 07:02 AM)dfarr Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:
(03-21-2020 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Get this on the street ASAP. Trump is right to tell FDA to expedite, expedite, expedite.
The good news is that these are things that have been in use for some time, so any side effects should be well documented, which cuts the clinical trial process down by a bunch.
And frankly, if I'm dying of CV-19 (I'm not) then I want it, and if it makes hair grow out of my eyeballs then I'll deal with that later.
There are no side effects to either drug. Everybody has had a a Zpack. I was saying that was always the drug of choice for those bad sinus infections when nothing else works. And the other drug is being used as a prophylactic against malaria for use in Africa, and has just about gotten rid of it.
Incorrect. Plaquenil can cause q-t elongation which is dangerous in heart patients. It can send them into v-tach or v-fib. No medicine is without it’s side effects.
I heard Dr. Drew Pinsky talk on this last night. He has been prescribing both of these medicines for years, for RA and lupus, among others.
His take is the bad side effects appear only with chronic use. His medical opinion is that a run of 2 weeks or so to combat Covid-19 is likely not going to hurt anybody, and it could save lives, and certainly reduce the duration and lighten the effects.
Not me saying that. Him.
And they still require prescriptions, so discuss it with your doc if you have an underlying condition, as you should do with anything.
Thus the reason I replied to the response with a question regarding Lupus. See Africa and malaria.
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 07:06 AM)dfarr Wrote:
(03-21-2020 06:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: I have two patients that are regulars at my pharmacy who are now blind from plaquenil...
So, since the cisco tech who never worked in IT, but became a security guard then transitioned into a pharmacy tech is now hiding from his post, lets get the facts straight. Plaquenil can cause retinal damage for some patients who take very high doses and/or take it for a very long time. Neither are the use case for Covid 19. These would be cases for those with lupus, RA, or other diseases which require taking the medication for a very long time.
hiding? after working 57 hours last week at a location with lines around the store I slept a lot today in between house cleaning and laundry...I never said you or anyone else will go blind, I simply stated I know 2 patients who went blind after taking Plaquenil so I might talk to a MD before taking it and assuming there are no side effects. as for my CCENT it was included in the price of my tuition so of course I took it, why wouldn't I? I rather enjoy working in Pharmacy but the past two weeks have been rather rough.
Monday:
Tuesday:
Wed:
it just went on like that til Friday...but yeah, I guess I'm hiding
Those people are in line for toilet paper. So I guess you've been reasssigned at the store?
Also, what you reported is likely a HIPPA violation. So maybe you should be working toilet paper.
Oh ffs there was no HIPPA violation in any of what he posted. HIPPA is one of the worst things in health care right now.
the last 2-3 weeks everyone's become a medical professional apparently...
RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 11:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-22-2020 07:06 AM)dfarr Wrote:
(03-21-2020 06:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(03-21-2020 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:
(03-21-2020 11:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: So, since the cisco tech who never worked in IT, but became a security guard then transitioned into a pharmacy tech is now hiding from his post, lets get the facts straight. Plaquenil can cause retinal damage for some patients who take very high doses and/or take it for a very long time. Neither are the use case for Covid 19. These would be cases for those with lupus, RA, or other diseases which require taking the medication for a very long time.
hiding? after working 57 hours last week at a location with lines around the store I slept a lot today in between house cleaning and laundry...I never said you or anyone else will go blind, I simply stated I know 2 patients who went blind after taking Plaquenil so I might talk to a MD before taking it and assuming there are no side effects. as for my CCENT it was included in the price of my tuition so of course I took it, why wouldn't I? I rather enjoy working in Pharmacy but the past two weeks have been rather rough.
Monday:
Tuesday:
Wed:
it just went on like that til Friday...but yeah, I guess I'm hiding
Those people are in line for toilet paper. So I guess you've been reasssigned at the store?
Also, what you reported is likely a HIPPA violation. So maybe you should be working toilet paper.
Oh ffs there was no HIPPA violation in any of what he posted. HIPPA is one of the worst things in health care right now.
the last 2-3 weeks everyone's become a medical professional apparently... fallen prey to the 'seeding' from Gina and the msm...
DJT had no other out at that point....
now we get a ding-dong governor w/o a clue other that pandering to the sympathetic and the mayor in the largest U.S. city w/o a clue attempting to drive the continual narrative of 'immediacy in social distancing' all the while their heads are still stuck up the proverbial arses with their state policy still churning mo' butter in the background....
I live in dumbfk land....
(This post was last modified: 03-22-2020 11:19 AM by stinkfist.)