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RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 11:18 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 11:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 07:06 AM)dfarr Wrote:  
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(03-21-2020 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  hiding? after working 57 hours last week at a location with lines around the store I slept a lot today in between house cleaning and laundry...I never said you or anyone else will go blind, I simply stated I know 2 patients who went blind after taking Plaquenil so I might talk to a MD before taking it and assuming there are no side effects. as for my CCENT it was included in the price of my tuition so of course I took it, why wouldn't I? I rather enjoy working in Pharmacy but the past two weeks have been rather rough.

Monday:
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Tuesday:
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it just went on like that til Friday...but yeah, I guess I'm hiding 03-lmfao

Those people are in line for toilet paper. So I guess you've been reasssigned at the store?

Also, what you reported is likely a HIPPA violation. So maybe you should be working toilet paper.

Oh ffs there was no HIPPA violation in any of what he posted. HIPPA is one of the worst things in health care right now.

the last 2-3 weeks everyone's become a medical professional apparently... fallen prey to the 'seeding' from Gina and the msm...

DJT had no other out at that point....

now we get a ding-dong governor w/o a clue other that pandering to the sympathetic and the mayor in the largest U.S. city w/o a clue attempting to drive the continual narrative of 'immediacy in social distancing' all the while their heads are still stuck up the proverbial arses with their state policy still churning mo' butter in the background....

I live in dumbfk land....

I'll just take the easy OT while I can get it and enjoy my check.

Sam's has also said not only are the giving us a 300 dollar bonus due to all the BS these past 3 weeks but their also paying out our full quarterly bonus (called Sam's Share) no matter what kind of numbers your store is posting...I wanna say max out on that is like 250-300 bucks.

I'll take it.
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RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 07:06 AM)dfarr Wrote:  
(03-21-2020 06:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-21-2020 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-21-2020 11:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-21-2020 10:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I have two patients that are regulars at my pharmacy who are now blind from plaquenil...

So, since the cisco tech who never worked in IT, but became a security guard then transitioned into a pharmacy tech is now hiding from his post, lets get the facts straight. Plaquenil can cause retinal damage for some patients who take very high doses and/or take it for a very long time. Neither are the use case for Covid 19. These would be cases for those with lupus, RA, or other diseases which require taking the medication for a very long time.

hiding? after working 57 hours last week at a location with lines around the store I slept a lot today in between house cleaning and laundry...I never said you or anyone else will go blind, I simply stated I know 2 patients who went blind after taking Plaquenil so I might talk to a MD before taking it and assuming there are no side effects. as for my CCENT it was included in the price of my tuition so of course I took it, why wouldn't I? I rather enjoy working in Pharmacy but the past two weeks have been rather rough.

Monday:
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Tuesday:
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Wed:
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it just went on like that til Friday...but yeah, I guess I'm hiding 03-lmfao

Those people are in line for toilet paper. So I guess you've been reasssigned at the store?

Also, what you reported is likely a HIPPA violation. So maybe you should be working toilet paper.

Oh ffs there was no HIPPA violation in any of what he posted. HIPPA is one of the worst things in health care right now.

Whether or not you agree with HIPPA is not the point, it is the law.
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RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 10:11 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
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(03-21-2020 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Get this on the street ASAP. Trump is right to tell FDA to expedite, expedite, expedite.

The good news is that these are things that have been in use for some time, so any side effects should be well documented, which cuts the clinical trial process down by a bunch.

And frankly, if I'm dying of CV-19 (I'm not) then I want it, and if it makes hair grow out of my eyeballs then I'll deal with that later.

There are no side effects to either drug. Everybody has had a a Zpack. I was saying that was always the drug of choice for those bad sinus infections when nothing else works. And the other drug is being used as a prophylactic against malaria for use in Africa, and has just about gotten rid of it.
Incorrect. Plaquenil can cause q-t elongation which is dangerous in heart patients. It can send them into v-tach or v-fib. No medicine is without it’s side effects.

I heard Dr. Drew Pinsky talk on this last night. He has been prescribing both of these medicines for years, for RA and lupus, among others.

His take is the bad side effects appear only with chronic use. His medical opinion is that a run of 2 weeks or so to combat Covid-19 is likely not going to hurt anybody, and it could save lives, and certainly reduce the duration and lighten the effects.

Not me saying that. Him.

And they still require prescriptions, so discuss it with your doc if you have an underlying condition, as you should do with anything.

Thus the reason I replied to the response with a question regarding Lupus. See Africa and malaria.

And Pinsky said it wouldn't be an issue at all with short usage for CV-19. Says he has his chronic lupus/RA users get eye tests once a year. And when you stop using, the issue usually goes away.
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Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
Nitpicking, but it is actually HIPAA, not HIPPA. Just a pet peeve.

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RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
Dr. Fauci probably having spasms right now. He wanted it to go through all the typical bureaucratic protocols first, months down the line. Called the French study "anecdotal."
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RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 01:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dr. Fauci probably having spasms right now. He wanted it to go through all the typical bureaucratic protocols first, months down the line. Called the French study "anecdotal."

Well sure, he's not the one that's dying, or his relatives. It's different when you're on the other side. It's like in war, the people in the rear think they're ideas are better than those fight in the front. What was it said about "ol blood and guts" by the GIs? They would say, "yeah, our blood and his guts".
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RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 01:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dr. Fauci probably having spasms right now. He wanted it to go through all the typical bureaucratic protocols first, months down the line. Called the French study "anecdotal."

The issue with that is that noone wants to be in a control group where, 7 days later when you are on a ventilator, you find out you were the one that got the placebo. I understand his point clearly, though. But his point may need to be saved for a time when we dont have the emergency, especially given the limited control data is screaming at us that it works.
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RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
Libtards really seem to be upset about the possibility of this working. I guess when they aren’t murdering babies, they prefer to kill of the elderly. Also find it funny that they are blasting Trump for “having hope” when for 8 years all they could talk about was hope & change while the big eared Kenyan goof screwed up everything he touched
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RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 01:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 01:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dr. Fauci probably having spasms right now. He wanted it to go through all the typical bureaucratic protocols first, months down the line. Called the French study "anecdotal."

The issue with that is that noone wants to be in a control group where, 7 days later when you are on a ventilator you find out you were the one that got the placebo.

Well, if NY is starting trials Tuesday, they may do it exactly that way. Or, they may just go with trying some on HCQ, and some on that + the ZPack.

And the French study protocol didn't cure the patient. It simply shortened the timeline of the symptoms.

And I don't recall in that study reading anything about the original severity of the symptoms, since we know there are 2 strains, one mild and one more severe. It also didn't mention their ages or if they had underlying conditions.
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(03-22-2020 01:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dr. Fauci probably having spasms right now. He wanted it to go through all the typical bureaucratic protocols first, months down the line. Called the French study "anecdotal."

Fauci started this whole thing months ago saying the US wasn't prepared for an epidemic like this but what has HE been doing for the past 20 years? All hat no saddle.
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RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 01:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 01:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 01:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dr. Fauci probably having spasms right now. He wanted it to go through all the typical bureaucratic protocols first, months down the line. Called the French study "anecdotal."

The issue with that is that noone wants to be in a control group where, 7 days later when you are on a ventilator you find out you were the one that got the placebo.

Well, if NY is starting trials Tuesday, they may do it exactly that way. Or, they may just go with trying some on HCQ, and some on that + the ZPack.

And the French study protocol didn't cure the patient. It simply shortened the timeline of the symptoms.

And I don't recall in that study reading anything about the original severity of the symptoms, since we know there are 2 strains, one mild and one more severe. It also didn't mention their ages or if they had underlying conditions.

That test comprised of 30 people who tested positive, but their symptons ranged from none, to a simple cough (upper respisratory), to more severe lower respisratory symptoms. So they covere a range, although I'm not sure they identified how many of each range was in each group.

What the test showed was that there was that 100% of the combo-medication group tested negative for the virus at day 5. It also showed that only 20% of that group tested positive for the virus at day 3, which was a huge reduction from all other groups.
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RE: Study: Anti-malarial + antibiotic could reduce Covid-19 duration
(03-22-2020 02:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 01:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 01:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 01:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Dr. Fauci probably having spasms right now. He wanted it to go through all the typical bureaucratic protocols first, months down the line. Called the French study "anecdotal."

The issue with that is that noone wants to be in a control group where, 7 days later when you are on a ventilator you find out you were the one that got the placebo.

Well, if NY is starting trials Tuesday, they may do it exactly that way. Or, they may just go with trying some on HCQ, and some on that + the ZPack.

And the French study protocol didn't cure the patient. It simply shortened the timeline of the symptoms.

And I don't recall in that study reading anything about the original severity of the symptoms, since we know there are 2 strains, one mild and one more severe. It also didn't mention their ages or if they had underlying conditions.

That test comprised of 30 people who tested positive, but their symptons ranged from none, to a simple cough (upper respisratory), to more severe lower respisratory symptoms. So they covere a range, although I'm not sure they identified how many of each range was in each group.

What the test showed was that there was that 100% of the combo-medication group tested negative for the virus at day 5. It also showed that only 20% of that group tested positive for the virus at day 3, which was a huge reduction from all other groups.

Yeah, I read the article. I'm the one who posted it. It still didn't mention if they had the severe or the milder strain (I assume all were the milder strain, since nobody was on a ventilator, I imagine). Unless you're just assuming the lower respiratory symptoms were the more serious strain. I was just curious about that aspect. It wasn't clear.

And they didn't mention the age or underlying condition of any patients.
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Does not this effort fall under President Trump's "Right to Try" order, where if you are deathly ill, you can try experimental medicines? Seems like a good policy during such times.
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(03-21-2020 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(03-21-2020 09:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Get this on the street ASAP. Trump is right to tell FDA to expedite, expedite, expedite.

The good news is that these are things that have been in use for some time, so any side effects should be well documented, which cuts the clinical trial process down by a bunch.

And frankly, if I'm dying of CV-19 (I'm not) then I want it, and if it makes hair grow out of my eyeballs then I'll deal with that later.

There are no side effects to either drug. Everybody has had a a Zpack. I was saying that was always the drug of choice for those bad sinus infections when nothing else works. And the other drug is being used as a prophylactic against malaria for use in Africa, and has just about gotten rid of it.

my doc gave me a prescription for a zpack when i couldn't shake a sinus infection. my amish doc told me it was a yeast infection and to cut sugar out of my diet completely. along with some controversial herbs i was healed

of course i reverted back to my old regiment after three weeks. but that's a long time without suds. but a long enough time away from suds and such that i was convinced the man had the answers. sometimes (or often times these days) our ailments are the result of an influx of candida. a fungal infection. docs aren't that interested in it
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