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(03-22-2020 03:35 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Why would he be Dean Keener? He has 7 years plus half a season at CoC of head coaching experience. 5 1/2 of those seasons he has had a winning record. He’s never lost 20 games but he’s won 20 3 years in a row. He may not be proven at the level some of us wanted but there’s no denying he’s proven that he’s a solid winning coach. Keener was not.

For goodness sake! I did not say he would be like Keener. Why is it you read a post and take what is written to an extreme? You add things that are not said nor intended.

The guy looks like a good hire. I am going to support him. None of us know how he will do at JMU. I am simply was saying I hope he doesn’t have a Keener like record. I am not expecting him to have that just saying I hope he doesn’t.
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(03-22-2020 07:02 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 03:35 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Why would he be Dean Keener? He has 7 years plus half a season at CoC of head coaching experience. 5 1/2 of those seasons he has had a winning record. He’s never lost 20 games but he’s won 20 3 years in a row. He may not be proven at the level some of us wanted but there’s no denying he’s proven that he’s a solid winning coach. Keener was not.

For goodness sake! I did not say he would be like Keener. Why is it you read a post and take what is written to an extreme? You add things that are not said nor intended.

The guy looks like a good hire. I am going to support him. None of us know how he will do at JMU. I am simply was saying I hope he doesn’t have a Keener like record. I am not expecting him to have that just saying I hope he doesn’t.

Nation I read your post the same way 97 took it. There was no need to even bring up Keener, for the reasons 97 mentioned. Don’t get your panties in such a wad.
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(03-22-2020 07:18 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 07:02 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 03:35 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Why would he be Dean Keener? He has 7 years plus half a season at CoC of head coaching experience. 5 1/2 of those seasons he has had a winning record. He’s never lost 20 games but he’s won 20 3 years in a row. He may not be proven at the level some of us wanted but there’s no denying he’s proven that he’s a solid winning coach. Keener was not.

For goodness sake! I did not say he would be like Keener. Why is it you read a post and take what is written to an extreme? You add things that are not said nor intended.

The guy looks like a good hire. I am going to support him. None of us know how he will do at JMU. I am simply was saying I hope he doesn’t have a Keener like record. I am not expecting him to have that just saying I hope he doesn’t.

Nation I read your post the same way 97 took it. There was no need to even bring up Keener, for the reasons 97 mentioned. Don’t get your panties in such a wad.

That is what is so crazy. My panties are so far away from being in a wad yet that is the way you read the post. I am 100% behind the guy. His track record looks solid. Just because you interpret something wrong doesn’t mean that your interpretation is correct. What more clarification can I give you? This is a good hire.
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Curious to see what the assistant coaches salary pool will look like
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(03-22-2020 07:28 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 07:18 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 07:02 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 03:35 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Why would he be Dean Keener? He has 7 years plus half a season at CoC of head coaching experience. 5 1/2 of those seasons he has had a winning record. He’s never lost 20 games but he’s won 20 3 years in a row. He may not be proven at the level some of us wanted but there’s no denying he’s proven that he’s a solid winning coach. Keener was not.

For goodness sake! I did not say he would be like Keener. Why is it you read a post and take what is written to an extreme? You add things that are not said nor intended.

The guy looks like a good hire. I am going to support him. None of us know how he will do at JMU. I am simply was saying I hope he doesn’t have a Keener like record. I am not expecting him to have that just saying I hope he doesn’t.

Nation I read your post the same way 97 took it. There was no need to even bring up Keener, for the reasons 97 mentioned. Don’t get your panties in such a wad.

That is what is so crazy. My panties are so far away from being in a wad yet that is the way you read the post. I am 100% behind the guy. His track record looks solid. Just because you interpret something wrong doesn’t mean that your interpretation is correct. What more clarification can I give you? This is a good hire.

Well, the good part is you admit to wearing panties. I commend your openness.
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(03-22-2020 03:10 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  Splash this splash that. You guys are beyond ridiculous. Anyone with any sense reads your posts and rolls their eyes. Your answer to everything is spend more money. As if that guarantees anything.

The list of coaches interviewed was pretty dang good and about what any reasonable person could expect. JT III? If he was so great, he would have been hired by a P5 long ago. Pitino? Really? You want him banging hookers on a restaurant table in Harrisonburg? You folks blow me away with your posts. What in the world are you thinking?

There was never going to be a splash hire. Many of us close to the university told you this over and over but you kept posting about how you wanted washed up BIG names. You kept posting about how JMU should spend $1 million on a name hire with multiple NCAA tournament appearances. That guy isn’t coming to JMU!!!!!!! How on earth could you ever expect he would? If you were that coach, would you? I sure as hell wouldn’t.

Can we just move on and support the hire and hope like hell he isn’t another Dean Keener?

Pretty bold and blanket statement with a hint of sanctimony to boot, but I'll play.

Perhaps some of the posters were hoping we would be more like UAB in our thinking. That would be the UAB of Conference USA, a basketball conference barely better than the CAA. The same UAB that ranks 55 spots lower than us in football. The same UAB who has made it known they want to be considered should the AAC expand.

Maybe people were thinking that making a statement hire like they did would catch the attention of the AAC. That is exactly what UAB had in mind and was a major criteria in their search for a new coach.

They somehow managed to get a former SEC coach who had a winning percentage of .611 at Cincinnati & Ole Miss. He was 51% in conference play. 9 years of 20 wins or more. 2 NCAA appearances and 7 NIT appearances (two Semis). Maybe he couldn't get Ole Miss to the level their alums wanted, but he has the chops & credentials to position UAB to where they need to be.

UAB was paying their previous coach 450k. I'm sure they had to up the ante to pry Kennedy from his cushy ESPN/SEC Network gig. (And yes, I'm fully aware he was an alum).

Here's a few quotes from AL.com:

"The hope is to be in position for a play at the American Athletic Conference when conference realignment comes around."

"In an instant, the Blazers are relevant again, and fun, and an attractive brand for fans and TV."

"Kennedy to UAB should be viewed as nothing less than a great sign of things to come for UAB athletics. What a slam dunk hire for UAB athletic director Mark Ingram and UAB President Dr. Ray Watts."

"With Kennedy at UAB, the Blazers now have the recruiting power to go up against the staffs of Auburn and Alabama"

"This is how a university makes a statement to the world of collegiate athletics"

If our goal really is to join the AAC, I feel we missed an opportunity to make a statement hire. Something commensurate with the opening of a 90 million dollar arena. Something that would have generated quotes similar to the above.

Now I know some people will say we don't have the money, but UAB is not exactly Harvard. Our athletic budget is significantly larger than theirs, even after backing out the debt servicing for the Stadium. And our annual athletic giving is close. We were around 4.5 million, UAB was at 5.5 million.

It get really old when people say we don't have the money. I firmly believe we could, and would, ratchet up athletic contributions if there was any direction coming from our athletic dept. We should have already said 5 years ago that we need to increase our giving % to X amount "to position ourselves for any possible opportunities". Then maybe we could have had the necessary war chest for a splash hire. The expectation that we are staying in the CAA will only produce CAA level giving.

It "seems" like we would move to FBS if we could obtain an invite from the AAC-our theoretical perfect conference- well how do we get there?

We have G5 quality facilities. We have a G5 level football program (with 22 less scholarships mind you) and draw better than almost everyone in the bottom 3 FBS conferences. We have top level sports nationally in several other sports as well. We will be newly classified as a National University. What we don't have, is a good basketball program, and that is what would be desperately needed to get noticed. It's a huge wart on our nose.

Just wish we could have been more creative, more outside the box thinking. Hire a name guy who was out of coaching-like a Kennedy, JTIII, a Greenberg or other such guys I'm not thinking of. Hire a successful retired coach, even with the understanding that it would only be for a few years if so desired. Someone who could get us in the living rooms we currently can't get into. Someone who could call in favors to get us an exciting schedule. Someone who could hit the ground running and jumpstart us. Hell, even if those guys weren't top Xs and Os guys in the P5s, they'd be able to dominate the CAA simply relying on superior recruits.

For me personally, this particular hire was crucial for upward mobility. Realignment will come in mid 2020s and we need to be ready before the trickle down starts. Also felt real excitement for the new arena was a must. Just felt extra money spent now, could position us (as best we could) for the upcoming realignment.

The top team in CAA basketball is only middle of the road in the AAC. We need to dominate our conference. We can't just win the tournament once every 4 years and expect that to enhance our resume for AAC consideration. In many ways, we've already hit our ceiling in the sports we excel at. That's what the CAA does to you.

We may very well have made a good hire with our new coach-time will tell. And I'll be optimistic and support him. But I feel it needed to be a homerun if we truly have designs on the AAC. I wanted to feel what UAB is feeling now.
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(03-22-2020 08:47 PM)Purple Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 07:28 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 07:18 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 07:02 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 03:35 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Why would he be Dean Keener? He has 7 years plus half a season at CoC of head coaching experience. 5 1/2 of those seasons he has had a winning record. He’s never lost 20 games but he’s won 20 3 years in a row. He may not be proven at the level some of us wanted but there’s no denying he’s proven that he’s a solid winning coach. Keener was not.

For goodness sake! I did not say he would be like Keener. Why is it you read a post and take what is written to an extreme? You add things that are not said nor intended.

The guy looks like a good hire. I am going to support him. None of us know how he will do at JMU. I am simply was saying I hope he doesn’t have a Keener like record. I am not expecting him to have that just saying I hope he doesn’t.

Nation I read your post the same way 97 took it. There was no need to even bring up Keener, for the reasons 97 mentioned. Don’t get your panties in such a wad.

That is what is so crazy. My panties are so far away from being in a wad yet that is the way you read the post. I am 100% behind the guy. His track record looks solid. Just because you interpret something wrong doesn’t mean that your interpretation is correct. What more clarification can I give you? This is a good hire.

Well, the good part is you admit to wearing panties.

Only to my closest friends. Let’s not let this get out to the general public.03-shhhh
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(03-22-2020 08:48 PM)olddawg Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 03:10 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  Splash this splash that. You guys are beyond ridiculous. Anyone with any sense reads your posts and rolls their eyes. Your answer to everything is spend more money. As if that guarantees anything.

The list of coaches interviewed was pretty dang good and about what any reasonable person could expect. JT III? If he was so great, he would have been hired by a P5 long ago. Pitino? Really? You want him banging hookers on a restaurant table in Harrisonburg? You folks blow me away with your posts. What in the world are you thinking?

There was never going to be a splash hire. Many of us close to the university told you this over and over but you kept posting about how you wanted washed up BIG names. You kept posting about how JMU should spend $1 million on a name hire with multiple NCAA tournament appearances. That guy isn’t coming to JMU!!!!!!! How on earth could you ever expect he would? If you were that coach, would you? I sure as hell wouldn’t.

Can we just move on and support the hire and hope like hell he isn’t another Dean Keener?

Pretty bold and blanket statement with a hint of sanctimony to boot, but I'll play.

Perhaps some of the posters were hoping we would be more like UAB in our thinking. That would be the UAB of Conference USA, a basketball conference barely better than the CAA. The same UAB that ranks 55 spots lower than us in football. The same UAB who has made it known they want to be considered should the AAC expand.

Maybe people were thinking that making a statement hire like they did would catch the attention of the AAC. That is exactly what UAB had in mind and was a major criteria in their search for a new coach.

They somehow managed to get a former SEC coach who had a winning percentage of .611 at Cincinnati & Ole Miss. He was 51% in conference play. 9 years of 20 wins or more. 2 NCAA appearances and 7 NIT appearances (two Semis). Maybe he couldn't get Ole Miss to the level their alums wanted, but he has the chops & credentials to position UAB to where they need to be.

UAB was paying their previous coach 450k. I'm sure they had to up the ante to pry Kennedy from his cushy ESPN/SEC Network gig. (And yes, I'm fully aware he was an alum).

Here's a few quotes from AL.com:

"The hope is to be in position for a play at the American Athletic Conference when conference realignment comes around."

"In an instant, the Blazers are relevant again, and fun, and an attractive brand for fans and TV."

"Kennedy to UAB should be viewed as nothing less than a great sign of things to come for UAB athletics. What a slam dunk hire for UAB athletic director Mark Ingram and UAB President Dr. Ray Watts."

"With Kennedy at UAB, the Blazers now have the recruiting power to go up against the staffs of Auburn and Alabama"

"This is how a university makes a statement to the world of collegiate athletics"

If our goal really is to join the AAC, I feel we missed an opportunity to make a statement hire. Something commensurate with the opening of a 90 million dollar arena. Something that would have generated quotes similar to the above.

Now I know some people will say we don't have the money, but UAB is not exactly Harvard. Our athletic budget is significantly larger than theirs, even after backing out the debt servicing for the Stadium. And our annual athletic giving is close. We were around 4.5 million, UAB was at 5.5 million.

It get really old when people say we don't have the money. I firmly believe we could, and would, ratchet up athletic contributions if there was any direction coming from our athletic dept. We should have already said 5 years ago that we need to increase our giving % to X amount "to position ourselves for any possible opportunities". Then maybe we could have had the necessary war chest for a splash hire. The expectation that we are staying in the CAA will only produce CAA level giving.

It "seems" like we would move to FBS if we could obtain an invite from the AAC-our theoretical perfect conference- well how do we get there?

We have G5 quality facilities. We have a G5 level football program (with 22 less scholarships mind you) and draw better than almost everyone in the bottom 3 FBS conferences. We have top level sports nationally in several other sports as well. We will be newly classified as a National University. What we don't have, is a good basketball program, and that is what would be desperately needed to get noticed. It's a huge wart on our nose.

Just wish we could have been more creative, more outside the box thinking. Hire a name guy who was out of coaching-like a Kennedy, JTIII, a Greenberg or other such guys I'm not thinking of. Hire a successful retired coach, even with the understanding that it would only be for a few years if so desired. Someone who could get us in the living rooms we currently can't get into. Someone who could call in favors to get us an exciting schedule. Someone who could hit the ground running and jumpstart us. Hell, even if those guys weren't top Xs and Os guys in the P5s, they'd be able to dominate the CAA simply relying on superior recruits.

For me personally, this particular hire was crucial for upward mobility. Realignment will come in mid 2020s and we need to be ready before the trickle down starts. Also felt real excitement for the new arena was a must. Just felt extra money spent now, could position us (as best we could) for the upcoming realignment.

The top team in CAA basketball is only middle of the road in the AAC. We need to dominate our conference. We can't just win the tournament once every 4 years and expect that to enhance our resume for AAC consideration. In many ways, we've already hit our ceiling in the sports we excel at. That's what the CAA does to you.

We may very well have made a good hire with our new coach-time will tell. And I'll be optimistic and support him. But I feel it needed to be a homerun if we truly have designs on the AAC. I wanted to feel what UAB is feeling now.

It take two to tango- maybe someone will be close enough to know this for sure as it relates to JMU and who they could have had if they stretched but UAB and Kennedy worked because Kennedy wanted the UAB job- he's an alum. Pitino and Iona worked because Pitino has connections with Iona leadership. The coach has to be interested and willing too and then the school makes the choice to stretch to get it done.

If the guys who we could have stretched for were Richey and Greenberg and we didn't does anyone have an issue with the hire of Coach Byington?

I would have liked Drew or JT III- folks talked about Miller, Forbes, or Becker but if they had 0 interest in the JMU job there is only so much that you can do. If someone close knows differently please say so- I'm just going by the reporting on this.
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I totally get how you feel. It all does sound good to any JMU fan unfortunately it is not in line with what JMU has done historically. Our administration has always been fiscally responsible. They also know the AAC isn’t happening for JMU. Bourne through out an olive branch long ago and the AAC did not bite. The schools in the AAC have no historical connection to JMU so don’t look for the AAC to happen. A league with App, ODU and Delaware is much more likely.

If JMU would have paid Greenberg or Kennedy what they wanted, that in itself doesn’t guarantee wins. If either of those two were hired then flamed out, any splash would be gone by year two and then JMU is backed into a corner financially. Kennedy and Pitino fit where they were hired and likely have some deep pocketed alums funding them. Without those resources at JMU, paying $1 million is not going to happen. Business is always about relationships and college athletics is big business.

I get that people wanted something more. We all have things we wish for but being pissed off because it didn’t happen is just ridiculous. No one should ever have had those expectations. If they did, they set themselves up for disappointment.
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Hart frequently sets up impossible MBB expectations so that he can gleefully throw a fit about it.
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(03-23-2020 08:17 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  Old Dawg:

I totally get how you feel. It all does sound good to any JMU fan unfortunately it is not in line with what JMU has done historically. Our administration has always been fiscally responsible. They also know the AAC isn’t happening for JMU. Bourne through out an olive branch long ago and the AAC did not bite. The schools in the AAC have no historical connection to JMU so don’t look for the AAC to happen. A league with App, ODU and Delaware is much more likely.

If JMU would have paid Greenberg or Kennedy what they wanted, that in itself doesn’t guarantee wins. If either of those two were hired then flamed out, any splash would be gone by year two and then JMU is backed into a corner financially. Kennedy and Pitino fit where they were hired and likely have some deep pocketed alums funding them. Without those resources at JMU, paying $1 million is not going to happen. Business is always about relationships and college athletics is big business.

I get that people wanted something more. We all have things we wish for but being pissed off because it didn’t happen is just ridiculous. No one should ever have had those expectations. If they did, they set themselves up for disappointment.

Another thing to consider: revenue. Current revenue for MBB is garbage. I am all for investing in the future, but not doing it in a way that destroys a program. There is no guarantee (like so many others have said) that paying big money equals success. Even if we had offered millions doesn't mean that those coaches would even want to go to JMU. We don't know what coaches were/weren't in consideration.
We don't know who was turned down or turned us down.
But here's a fact: if Byington can make this team better, fans will come back. Fans will buy more and more tickets. Revenue will increase and as a result we will probably be able to offer more money the next time around. And more importantly, the job becomes more attractive to the next guy and perhaps bigger names will become interested.
I think we often view our program in purple shades and think this job has to be attractive based on what we feel. The truth is that our program has a lot of stink on it that a pretty arena cannot wash away. Some are able to overlook that, but I'm sure there are a lot that see us as a project and don't want any part of it. Others just don't know anything about JMU and just assume it's a bad job.
In Byington's case, he has first hand knowledge of JMU and the CAA. He knows what JMU can be if built the right way. There aren't many that can see the light through the decades of fog. It takes a special guy to want to take on this challenge and some coaches would just rather work with a winning program. Unfortunately most of those guys are also the big names in the industry.
Look at where the program was when JMU brought in Lefty. It certainly wasn't garbage. It was in a very good place and Lefty took it over. Would Lefty have really wanted to take over at this point? I don't know but I think far less likely. My point is that we aren't there right now. We are in a different place and need to understand that.
Lastly, I think for a change we have a guy that knows exactly what needs to be done. He's done it before at Georgia Southern and I believe he can do it here and do it even better. Give the guy a chance.
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(03-21-2020 07:57 AM)Top Dawg Wrote:  
(03-20-2020 09:59 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Something that Bourne and Alger have to answer for...

JMU has the 61st largest athletics budget in the country and #1 of any mid-major nationally.
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances

If you look at schools ranked 55 to 65 as financial peers of JMU, how can they justify what JMU is paying its basketball coaches compared to others?

55 Cincinnati $1.5 million
56 Air Force $525k plus incentives - just got fired
57 San Diego State $855k plus incentives
58 Memphis $1.6 million
59 Houston $3 million
60 Colorado State $750k
61 JMU ?
62 Fresno State $550k plus $240k bonus
63 UNLV $1.1 million
64 Boise State $725k plus incentives
65 UMass $750k


If you look at JMU vs CAA schools, they crush them all in total athletics spending, but do not spend the most for the men’s basketball coach.
Do other hoops programs want to win more than JMU? 01-wingedeagle
What do all of those other schools pay their football coaches? I thought JMUs athletic budget was so high because we are fully funding all sports.

Maybe I'm taking this out of context but....Not all sports at JMU are "fully funded"....there are athletes at JMU that receive no scholarships. We have girls on the softball team that have and are currently sharing scholarships. We have assistant coaches that volunteer their time and/or are paid less than minimum wage. There are programs that do "fundraising" to help purchase equipment and supplies. The reality is; not all athletics programs have the luxury of choosing jersey colors or helmet design throughout the season.
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I believe when some on here (and in the admin) say "fully funding" it means that we are giving out all available scholarships allowable under NCAA rules.
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The programs are fully funded to the maximum scholarships allowed by the NCAA. Because of the scholarships allowed in baseball and softball, the scholarships are mostly shared between players and some have no scholarships. This is normal.
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For reference according to the NCAA baseball is allowed 11.7 scholarships (.7?? How did they come up with that one?) and softball is allowed 12 scholarships. Since each team has a roster in excess of the scholarship limit they are either shared to some degree or some players do not have a scholarship or a part of one.

As far as I am aware as has been pointed out above JMU fully funds and distributes the maximum number of scholarships that the NCAA allows for each NCAA team sport.

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Doesn’t JMU sponsor more sports in total than most schools? More sports, more scholarships, more travel, more coaches, higher facilities cost no?
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RE: Investment in men’s hoops???
Maybe they sponsor more than normal at FCS level, but I think it's about normal. I think we are the limit for FBS eligibility, right?
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RE: Investment in men’s hoops???
We sponsor at the lowest requirement for DI membership for mens sports. (6). We have 11 women's sports. All are fully funded in terms of supplying the NCAA maximum of scholarships. When I was at JMU, I believe we had 28 sports, but many were not fully funded.

UVA sponsors 25 sports. 12 men and 13 for women. All are fully funded.
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RE: Investment in men’s hoops???
(03-23-2020 02:38 PM)olddawg Wrote:  We sponsor at the lowest requirement for DI membership for mens sports. (6). We have 11 women's sports. All are fully funded in terms of supplying the NCAA maximum of scholarships. When I was at JMU, I believe we had 28 sports, but many were not fully funded.

UVA sponsors 25 sports. 12 men and 13 for women. All are fully funded.

Yep, that's what that law suit was about years ago - JMU cut a bunch of sports in order to fully fund the remaining sports but got sued in the process. It seems to have been a very successful strategy for women's sports. I think you could pick up the women's program and plop in into any conference in the country and they'd be pretty competitive from day 1. It's been a more mixed bag with men's sports, obviously.
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RE: Investment in men’s hoops???
The decision by JMU to not sponsor a men's lacrosse team is gross negligence.

Most CAA schools have more men's sports than JMU; this should bother all of us.
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