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RE: Mark Byington hired by JMU
(03-23-2020 05:23 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
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(03-23-2020 12:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  JMU has already had two enter the transfer portal since the announcement. Dwight Wilson and Darius Banks. Solid players but if Byington can keep Matt Lewis that would be huge for them

Conversely, and this has nothing to do with Byington or JMU, but we haven't had any players leave for the portal yet to my knowledge? Am I correct there? If so, that's a great sign. Knock on some wood...


Siddle has some respect and credibilty with everyone at UNCW as a former assistant coach here. Hard for the players to ignore the move from last place to a tie for first place the next year and then two NCAA appearances under Keatts/Siddle. Where else would they go to get a better upside than that? OTH, JMU didn't bring on a coach with any credibility to the current players. No real change in style that might excite them about the future. I actually think they'd have kept everyone if Mike Jones was bringing the press.

I saw a rumor that Mike Jones turned the job down. Which is surprising if true
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RE: Mark Byington hired by JMU
(03-23-2020 05:37 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 05:23 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 12:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 12:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  JMU has already had two enter the transfer portal since the announcement. Dwight Wilson and Darius Banks. Solid players but if Byington can keep Matt Lewis that would be huge for them

Conversely, and this has nothing to do with Byington or JMU, but we haven't had any players leave for the portal yet to my knowledge? Am I correct there? If so, that's a great sign. Knock on some wood...


Siddle has some respect and credibilty with everyone at UNCW as a former assistant coach here. Hard for the players to ignore the move from last place to a tie for first place the next year and then two NCAA appearances under Keatts/Siddle. Where else would they go to get a better upside than that? OTH, JMU didn't bring on a coach with any credibility to the current players. No real change in style that might excite them about the future. I actually think they'd have kept everyone if Mike Jones was bringing the press.

I saw a rumor that Mike Jones turned the job down. Which is surprising if true

Couldn't possibly be true. You must mean John Thompson III. A lowly coach like Jones would never turn down the job at JMU.
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RE: Mark Byington hired by JMU
(03-23-2020 05:23 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 12:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 12:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  JMU has already had two enter the transfer portal since the announcement. Dwight Wilson and Darius Banks. Solid players but if Byington can keep Matt Lewis that would be huge for them

Conversely, and this has nothing to do with Byington or JMU, but we haven't had any players leave for the portal yet to my knowledge? Am I correct there? If so, that's a great sign. Knock on some wood...



Where else would they go to get a better upside than that?
for a few guys, several places, but glad they have not chosen to do so. Also, as much as i like the optimism, Siddle isn't KK. We can hope he becomes him, but he's not him. Not nearly the track record or experience coming in.
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Could be really good though. Does UNCW win back to back CAA titles without Flemings just showing up to add to the rest of the mix? We will never know. I like the Hawks chances over time in this case.
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RE: Mark Byington hired by JMU
(03-23-2020 07:32 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 05:23 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 12:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 12:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  JMU has already had two enter the transfer portal since the announcement. Dwight Wilson and Darius Banks. Solid players but if Byington can keep Matt Lewis that would be huge for them

Conversely, and this has nothing to do with Byington or JMU, but we haven't had any players leave for the portal yet to my knowledge? Am I correct there? If so, that's a great sign. Knock on some wood...



Where else would they go to get a better upside than that?
for a few guys, several places, but glad they have not chosen to do so. Also, as much as i like the optimism, Siddle isn't KK. We can hope he becomes him, but he's not him. Not nearly the track record or experience coming in.

Not what I said and not the point. He carries CREDIBILITY at UNCW that Byington doesn't at JMU. He was a part of one of the best three years in the histroy of UNCW basketball and it all happened while these guys were heading into HS and watched every bit of it.
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RE: Mark Byington hired by JMU
(03-23-2020 09:09 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 07:32 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 05:23 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 12:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 12:16 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  JMU has already had two enter the transfer portal since the announcement. Dwight Wilson and Darius Banks. Solid players but if Byington can keep Matt Lewis that would be huge for them

Conversely, and this has nothing to do with Byington or JMU, but we haven't had any players leave for the portal yet to my knowledge? Am I correct there? If so, that's a great sign. Knock on some wood...



Where else would they go to get a better upside than that?
for a few guys, several places, but glad they have not chosen to do so. Also, as much as i like the optimism, Siddle isn't KK. We can hope he becomes him, but he's not him. Not nearly the track record or experience coming in.

Not what I said and not the point. He carries CREDIBILITY at UNCW that Byington doesn't at JMU. He was a part of one of the best three years in the histroy of UNCW basketball and it all happened while these guys were heading into HS and watched every bit of it.
So Byington who turned around Southern as a HEAD COACH had less credibility than someone who was an ASSISTANT on good teams at UNCW(and average at best at State)? Interesting take, not sure i agree. Most on this board threw out him early as a candidate we'd have been happy with at UNCW. Can't we just say both teams made what appears to be solid hires? Ultimately we won't know until we see some results.
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RE: Mark Byington hired by JMU
(03-24-2020 07:41 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 09:09 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 07:32 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 05:23 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 12:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Conversely, and this has nothing to do with Byington or JMU, but we haven't had any players leave for the portal yet to my knowledge? Am I correct there? If so, that's a great sign. Knock on some wood...



Where else would they go to get a better upside than that?
for a few guys, several places, but glad they have not chosen to do so. Also, as much as i like the optimism, Siddle isn't KK. We can hope he becomes him, but he's not him. Not nearly the track record or experience coming in.

Not what I said and not the point. He carries CREDIBILITY at UNCW that Byington doesn't at JMU. He was a part of one of the best three years in the histroy of UNCW basketball and it all happened while these guys were heading into HS and watched every bit of it.
So Byington who turned around Southern as a HEAD COACH had less credibility than someone who was an ASSISTANT on good teams at UNCW(and average at best at State)? Interesting take, not sure i agree. Most on this board threw out him early as a candidate we'd have been happy with at UNCW. Can't we just say both teams made what appears to be solid hires? Ultimately we won't know until we see some results.


I've clearly stated Byington is a solid hire. We are talking about TRANSFERS. Siddle is directly connected to UNCW. Byington is NOT directly connected to JMU. What he did at GSU may or may not translate to wins at JMU in the CAA. What Keatts did at UNCW was PROVEN to be successful at UNCW in the CAA.

Furthermore, as I stated as well, Siddle brings a style of play that is highly desireable to the players we recruit. They've seen it at VCU, WVU, Louisville and now NCSU. They know exaclty what they are staying for. Byington isn't bringing a "system" the players can easily understand and embrace that they've seen before.

This isn't a Siddle good/Byington bad discussion. It's a discussion about why JMU players are leaving and UNCW players haven't left so far. It's all opinion and this is why I THINK there are different reactions at each school by the players.
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