Quote:The West appears to be facing its worst crisis since 1939 because of a new global pandemic. Thousands of people have died. More, we are told, will die. And the economic shock to the system has been profound. Yet one country, China, seems to be above criticism. As China begins to expel American journalists, I am left wondering: who are the villains of this piece?

I have to confess that last week I found myself feeling more depressed than I had been in my adult life by the words of the chief scientific officer Sir Patrick Vallance. He said that 60 per cent of the U.K. population needed to get COVID-19 in order for our nation to build herd immunity, yet Boris Johnson had said nothing about this. I worked out pretty quickly that this tactic would trigger in the region of 400,000 deaths. A few days later it transpired that the Imperial College COVID-19 response team had done some work for the government and estimated that about 260,000 people would die if this disease was allowed to spread.

Since then, I am pleased to say that government policy has changed. Britain is acting in line with many other countries in attempting to suppress the virus. Downing Street has recognised that a rapid spread of COVID-19 would overwhelm the NHS. The penny has dropped. We must hold our nerve and hope for the best.

I believe that attention should now turn to China. When President Trump has talked about the "Chinese virus" (others have called it the "Wuhan Virus") he has been met with waves of criticism and accusations of racism. In the House of Commons, the shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry even said of Trump: "Now he's calling it the foreign virus, blaming it on Europe for its spread and today blaming China." I hate to break it to Ms Thornberry, but Trump is right. And it is time we all challenged China.

https://www.newsweek.com/nigel-farage-ch...nk-1493085

Chinese propaganda machine on overdrive. They see what's likely to come of this if it truly does spiral completely out of control. Even the brutal communists dictators can only "devalue" so much. It won't matter if there's no food to feed 1.4BB people.

To the more basic topic I can't figure out how the screaming heads on teevee are making this leap as to naming this strand the same way the other virus and etc is considered "racist".

What?

No, it didn't come from the US Army. No, it wasn't "invented" here for some strange-asss reason. It came from Wuhan Province, China (unless of course the lying commies were lying about that too, which is entirely possible).
Hence Wuhan flu, WuFlu, Chinese flu, foreign flu take your proper PC pick.

racist. pffffffft.

(03-19-2020 03:20 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Chinese propaganda machine on overdrive. They see what's likely to come of this if it truly does spiral completely out of control. Even the brutal communists dictators can only "devalue" so much. It won't matter if there's no food to feed 1.4BB people.

To the more basic topic I can't figure out how the screaming heads on teevee are making this leap as to naming this strand the same way the other virus and etc is considered "racist".

What?

No, it didn't come from the US Army. No, it wasn't "invented" here for some strange-asss reason. It came from Wuhan Province, China (unless of course the lying commies were lying about that too, which is entirely possible).
Hence Wuhan flu, WuFlu, Chinese flu, foreign flu take your proper PC pick.

racist. pffffffft.

Anyone with any sense knows the media only considers the name racist because it is what Trump called it. It really is that simple.

China can't exist without Mideast oil. And until somebody figures out how to build a pipeline over the Himalayas, that means they are totally dependent on a maritime supply chain that runs through the Straits of Hormuz, around India, through the Straits of Malacca or some other way trough the Indonesian archipelago, and finally across the China sea. They don't have a navy that can protect that supply chain, so we do it for them. Without us, any one of the three I's--Iran, India, Indonesia--cut shut the Chinese economy down and create mass starvation in about 14 days.

I think it is way past time for us to make it abundantly clear that our relationship going forward is based on that reality.

(03-19-2020 03:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:20 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Chinese propaganda machine on overdrive. They see what's likely to come of this if it truly does spiral completely out of control. Even the brutal communists dictators can only "devalue" so much. It won't matter if there's no food to feed 1.4BB people.

To the more basic topic I can't figure out how the screaming heads on teevee are making this leap as to naming this strand the same way the other virus and etc is considered "racist".

What?

No, it didn't come from the US Army. No, it wasn't "invented" here for some strange-asss reason. It came from Wuhan Province, China (unless of course the lying commies were lying about that too, which is entirely possible).
Hence Wuhan flu, WuFlu, Chinese flu, foreign flu take your proper PC pick.

racist. pffffffft.

Anyone with any sense knows the media only considers the name racist because it is what Trump called it. It really is that simple.

In this case, that's not the only reason. So many in many powerful positions in this nation now are beholden to Chinese money in some form or other.

And the democrats have the unmitigated gall to run a communist on their ticket.

People better wake the frick up

(03-19-2020 03:30 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:20 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Chinese propaganda machine on overdrive. They see what's likely to come of this if it truly does spiral completely out of control. Even the brutal communists dictators can only "devalue" so much. It won't matter if there's no food to feed 1.4BB people.

To the more basic topic I can't figure out how the screaming heads on teevee are making this leap as to naming this strand the same way the other virus and etc is considered "racist".

What?

No, it didn't come from the US Army. No, it wasn't "invented" here for some strange-asss reason. It came from Wuhan Province, China (unless of course the lying commies were lying about that too, which is entirely possible).
Hence Wuhan flu, WuFlu, Chinese flu, foreign flu take your proper PC pick.

racist. pffffffft.

Anyone with any sense knows the media only considers the name racist because it is what Trump called it. It really is that simple.

In this case, that's not the only reason. So many in many powerful positions in this nation now are beholden to Chinese money in some form or other.

True, but the Trump hate is the primary reason, IMO. I makes no sense as to why naming conventions used for every other virus is now suddenly racits.

Democrats: Calling it the Chinese Virus is racist

Also Democrats (When Chinese students apply to college): Sorry guys, you do not count as minorities.

(03-19-2020 03:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  And the democrats have the unmitigated gall to run a communist on their ticket.

People better wake the frick up

Bernie is not a communist nor is he the democratic nominee. Shere you're starting to lose it.

(03-19-2020 03:35 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Bernie is not a communist

Like hell he's not. If he's not, how did you know immediately who he meant?

Quote:nor is he the democratic nominee.

Thank God.

(03-19-2020 03:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:35 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Bernie is not a communist

Like hell he's not. If he's not, how did you know immediately who he meant?

Quote:nor is he the democratic nominee.

Thank God.

Because this is the 5,000th time someone on this forum has alluded to him as so. No matter how many times you old farts scream it, it isn't true.

(03-19-2020 03:35 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  And the democrats have the unmitigated gall to run a communist on their ticket.

People better wake the frick up

Bernie is not a communist nor is he the democratic nominee. Shere you're starting to lose it.

Serious question. What is the difference between Bernie's policies and Biden's?

The problem is we can't just blamed China completely. We know that government have suppressed any news to come out of that country for a long time which leads to conspiracy theories. Once the virus roaring through the world? Did they want the virus to kill the leaders in Iran who is their allies? Once this virus started to hit their allies and the countries in the Middle East where they get the oil. I think they did opened up after their allies got hit hard.

(03-19-2020 03:38 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:35 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Bernie is not a communist

Like hell he's not. If he's not, how did you know immediately who he meant?

Quote:nor is he the democratic nominee.

Thank God.

Because this is the 5,000th time someone on this forum has alluded to him as so. No matter how many times you old farts scream it, it isn't true.

Like hell he's not.

(03-19-2020 03:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:38 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:35 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Bernie is not a communist

Like hell he's not. If he's not, how did you know immediately who he meant?

Quote:nor is he the democratic nominee.

Thank God.

Because this is the 5,000th time someone on this forum has alluded to him as so. No matter how many times you old farts scream it, it isn't true.

Like hell he's not.

5001

(03-19-2020 03:35 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  And the democrats have the unmitigated gall to run a communist on their ticket.

People better wake the frick up

Bernie is not a communist nor is he the democratic nominee. Shere you're starting to lose it.

and just like that you named the commie.

I lost it years ago

(03-19-2020 03:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  China can't exist without Mideast oil. And until somebody figures out how to build a pipeline over the Himalayas, that means they are totally dependent on a maritime supply chain that runs through the Straits of Hormuz, around India, through the Straits of Malacca or some other way trough the Indonesian archipelago, and finally across the China sea. They don't have a navy that can protect that supply chain, so we do it for them. Without us, any one of the three I's--Iran, India, Indonesia--cut shut the Chinese economy down and create mass starvation in about 14 days.

I think it is way past time for us to make it abundantly clear that our relationship going forward is based on that reality.

They will just build a big azz navy if we threaten that line publicly. I'd just leave that alone so it stays our ace in the hole if there is ever a shooting war. My preference is we learn our lesson on global supply chains and completely re-evaluate what we make and where. There are certain mission critical product/manufacturing chains that should be compeltely domestic. If you want to make party favor bobbles in China--be my guest. Anything military or imperative for life needs to be made in the good ole USA wherever possible.

And heck yes--Bernie is a communist.

(03-19-2020 03:30 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:28 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:20 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Chinese propaganda machine on overdrive. They see what's likely to come of this if it truly does spiral completely out of control. Even the brutal communists dictators can only "devalue" so much. It won't matter if there's no food to feed 1.4BB people.

To the more basic topic I can't figure out how the screaming heads on teevee are making this leap as to naming this strand the same way the other virus and etc is considered "racist".

What?

No, it didn't come from the US Army. No, it wasn't "invented" here for some strange-asss reason. It came from Wuhan Province, China (unless of course the lying commies were lying about that too, which is entirely possible).
Hence Wuhan flu, WuFlu, Chinese flu, foreign flu take your proper PC pick.

racist. pffffffft.

Anyone with any sense knows the media only considers the name racist because it is what Trump called it. It really is that simple.

In this case, that's not the only reason. So many in many powerful positions in this nation now are beholden to Chinese money in some form or other.

Yup. I think it's elements of all three.

Chinese prop
Trump
Gladhanding chinese $$$'s

(03-19-2020 03:35 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  And the democrats have the unmitigated gall to run a communist on their ticket.

People better wake the frick up

Bernie is not a communist nor is he the democratic nominee. Shere you're starting to lose it.

You're delusional if you believe that. You can't see the thing that's staring you right in the face.

(03-19-2020 03:58 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:38 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-19-2020 03:35 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Bernie is not a communist

Like hell he's not. If he's not, how did you know immediately who he meant?

Quote:nor is he the democratic nominee.

Thank God.

Because this is the 5,000th time someone on this forum has alluded to him as so. No matter how many times you old farts scream it, it isn't true.

Like hell he's not.

5001

5002. You may be educated but you aren't very smart. There's a term for that.