https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/health/co...index.html

French health official say using ibuprofen with the virus has "severe adverse effects." Others say his comment is a real stretch and there is no data.

May be true. May be that the French minister is taking bribes-would hardly be unprecedented for the French.

This is what is missing. With all the flooding of info, there is no info on how to treat it. What should I do if I get the virus... a healthy, in shape, and relatively fit 40 year old. I don't want to burden the system being that I am going to survive. Should I take Aspirin? Tylenol, Ibuprofen? Sudafed? Dayquil/NyQuil?

You ride it out and treat the symptoms if you are younger and otherwise healthy.
Topped off our medicines shelf and loaded up on cough medicine, cold and flu meds (both ibuprofen and acetaminophen based), lots of bags of cough drops...basically everything I needed to knock down symptoms when I had a hell of a chest cold/flu a couple months ago when I spent a week in bed.....but doing it now for 4 adults.

It’s all stuff we can use years down the road if it’s not needed when this all passes.

I’m planning like the drug stores will be closed next week if I need it.

Isolate, wash hands and bedding and use disinfectant sprays etc (especially at the end/before you let others in or you go out)... treat the symptoms... zinc seems to help, stay healthy, eat well etc...

just like the regular cold as rath suggested, but more concern for infecting others for perhaps weeks.

(03-17-2020 08:57 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/health/co...index.html

French health official say using ibuprofen with the virus has "severe adverse effects." Others say his comment is a real stretch and there is no data.

May be true. May be that the French minister is taking bribes-would hardly be unprecedented for the French.

Yeah, just announced the French have unconditionally surrendered to the Coronavirus. They will be throwing a parade tomorrow to celebrate and help spread coronavirus throughout the country.

(03-17-2020 09:23 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You ride it out and treat the symptoms if you are younger and otherwise healthy.
Topped off our medicines shelf and loaded up on cough medicine, cold and flu meds (both ibuprofen and acetaminophen based), lots of bags of cough drops...basically everything I needed to knock down symptoms when I had a hell of a chest cold/flu a couple months ago when I spent a week in bed.....but doing it now for 4 adults.

It’s all stuff we can use years down the road if it’s not needed when this all passes.

I’m planning like the drug stores will be closed next week if I need it.

Well, the OP indicates Ibuprofen is harmful for treating the virus. Even the new coronavirus.gov website has nothing on treating the symptoms with OTC drugs. All it says is stay home, wash your hands, clean, and isolate.

(03-17-2020 12:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Well, the OP indicates Ibuprofen is harmful for treating the virus. Even the new coronavirus.gov website has nothing on treating the symptoms with OTC drugs. All it says is stay home, wash your hands, clean, and isolate.

The OP needs to define what it means by 'harmful'. I obviously have no idea, but if they mean, we don't know you have a fever because you took fever reducers so we miss confining you, that's one thing. If they mean something in the chemical makes the virus worse or stronger or whatever, that is something else.

(03-17-2020 12:51 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-17-2020 12:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Well, the OP indicates Ibuprofen is harmful for treating the virus. Even the new coronavirus.gov website has nothing on treating the symptoms with OTC drugs. All it says is stay home, wash your hands, clean, and isolate.

The OP needs to define what it means by 'harmful'. I obviously have no idea, but if they mean, we don't know you have a fever because you took fever reducers so we miss confining you, that's one thing. If they mean something in the chemical makes the virus worse or stronger or whatever, that is something else.

I'm not saying its harmful. I'm saying the French are saying it is. And others don't believe it is.

(03-17-2020 12:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-17-2020 09:23 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You ride it out and treat the symptoms if you are younger and otherwise healthy.
Topped off our medicines shelf and loaded up on cough medicine, cold and flu meds (both ibuprofen and acetaminophen based), lots of bags of cough drops...basically everything I needed to knock down symptoms when I had a hell of a chest cold/flu a couple months ago when I spent a week in bed.....but doing it now for 4 adults.

It’s all stuff we can use years down the road if it’s not needed when this all passes.

I’m planning like the drug stores will be closed next week if I need it.

Well, the OP indicates Ibuprofen is harmful for treating the virus. Even the new coronavirus.gov website has nothing on treating the symptoms with OTC drugs. All it says is stay home, wash your hands, clean, and isolate.

I’m guessing that if Advil makes this worse we will hear from someone here in the states and not just some French guy who is getting ripped for this.

There is no treatment for non-hospitalization sickness for corona virus. Unless you need a ventilator you treat the symptoms until you get to the other side. Pretty much how most people deal with bad colds and flu. Cough medicine for the cough. Something to knock down the fever. Cough drops for the sore throat.

(03-17-2020 01:10 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-17-2020 12:51 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-17-2020 12:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Well, the OP indicates Ibuprofen is harmful for treating the virus. Even the new coronavirus.gov website has nothing on treating the symptoms with OTC drugs. All it says is stay home, wash your hands, clean, and isolate.

The OP needs to define what it means by 'harmful'. I obviously have no idea, but if they mean, we don't know you have a fever because you took fever reducers so we miss confining you, that's one thing. If they mean something in the chemical makes the virus worse or stronger or whatever, that is something else.

I'm not saying its harmful. I'm saying the French are saying it is. And others don't believe it is.

I didn't mean you... I meant the article. Sorry. For me, they can both be right, depending on what they mean by harmful.

(03-17-2020 09:18 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  This is what is missing. With all the flooding of info, there is no info on how to treat it. What should I do if I get the virus... a healthy, in shape, and relatively fit 40 year old. I don't want to burden the system being that I am going to survive. Should I take Aspirin? Tylenol, Ibuprofen? Sudafed? Dayquil/NyQuil?

Perhaps your thinking needs to be de-pharmacized:

Think: Chicken Noodle Soup and Vegetable Soup (lots of it) and Hot tea with honey and lemon juice. And bedrest (no phones or posting, sorry) just a quiet, dark room with no electronics or distractions. Read a book or two 9they're made of paper) when you're awake.

(03-17-2020 12:51 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-17-2020 12:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Well, the OP indicates Ibuprofen is harmful for treating the virus. Even the new coronavirus.gov website has nothing on treating the symptoms with OTC drugs. All it says is stay home, wash your hands, clean, and isolate.

The OP needs to define what it means by 'harmful'. I obviously have no idea, but if they mean, we don't know you have a fever because you took fever reducers so we miss confining you, that's one thing. If they mean something in the chemical makes the virus worse or stronger or whatever, that is something else.

I read this in a "tweet" one of my kids sent me a few days ago-

It read something to the effect of French Health officials/department warns that the use of Ibuprofen, Acetaminophen, aspirin or other anti-inflammatory drugs may cause a case of WuFlu to worsen to a severe case of the disease.

No real citation, no links etc that I could see, but my daughter did they there were "sources" attributed. So, whatever that means.

Someone on that panel ought to address this either one way or the other.

(03-17-2020 02:23 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-17-2020 12:51 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-17-2020 12:22 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Well, the OP indicates Ibuprofen is harmful for treating the virus. Even the new coronavirus.gov website has nothing on treating the symptoms with OTC drugs. All it says is stay home, wash your hands, clean, and isolate.

The OP needs to define what it means by 'harmful'. I obviously have no idea, but if they mean, we don't know you have a fever because you took fever reducers so we miss confining you, that's one thing. If they mean something in the chemical makes the virus worse or stronger or whatever, that is something else.

I read this in a "tweet" one of my kids sent me a few days ago-

It read something to the effect of French Health officials/department warns that the use of Ibuprofen, Acetaminophen, aspirin or other anti-inflammatory drugs may cause a case of WuFlu to worsen to a severe case of the disease.

No real citation, no links etc that I could see, but my daughter did they there were "sources" attributed. So, whatever that means.

Someone on that panel ought to address this either one way or the other.

It was specific to NSAID's Acetaminophen (Tylenol) is recommended.

Ok, thanks. Wasn't aware of that.

And, I didn't say I believed the tweet, I even responded that I wasn't so sure about that and that I'd have to see more than a damn tweet to believe it. That's when she told me it had "sources". Uhhhhhhh, OK. I guess I could be the source then.

I wasn't buying it, least not at face value.

could also be correlation without causation...

people who regularly take NSAIDS are generally somewhat more compromised and thus more susceptible to serious effects of COVID than those who do not... all sorts of possibilities

(03-17-2020 02:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Ok, thanks. Wasn't aware of that.

And, I didn't say I believed the tweet, I even responded that I wasn't so sure about that and that I'd have to see more than a damn tweet to believe it. That's when she told me it had "sources". Uhhhhhhh, OK. I guess I could be the source then.

I wasn't buying it, least not at face value.

Yeah no worries. Just adding clarification as so much misinformation is out there.

Yea, that’s good to know. I didn’t really know what would be the recommended fever reducer if something were to happen

The issue seems to be with the anti-inflammatory properties of NSAIDs. Acetaminophen relieves pain but lacks the anti-inflammatory. Apparently NSAIDs could increase the chances of developing pneumonia. I got some Tylenol just in case.