My state has a total of 12 cases and it got to 80 degrees today. Viruses don't like 80 degrees. Not getting cool any time soon. Oh and the humidity was over 80 also. Those of you up North may continue to have probs.

(03-16-2020 08:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 04:53 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Some badly needed perspective on Coronavirus in the U.S.

US #CoronaVirusDeathRate by date:

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% March 9 (26 of 704)

3.01% March 10 (30 of 994)

2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295)

2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695)

2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247)

1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954)

1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)

https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronaVirusD...htag_click

What this data says to me is that as more cases are confirmed and more data subsequently becoming available, the U.S. death rate (as a percentage of those infected) is going DOWN. Calm down and follow the common sense guidelines for you and your families to stay safe. If one person in your household becomes infected, self quarantine the entire family. Perhaps segregate those elders most vulnerable from the rest of the family.

The over the top hype and fear mongering coming from media seems to me to be more dangerous than the virus, both for mental health and for our economy which is likely to go into a recession. Lots of small businesses will go under.

Ehhhh---During this phase of the curve whats also going up is percentage of active cases vs resolved as. Right now, we have 4667 total cases and are adding almost 1000 a day. Of that 4,667 cases, 4,506 are unresolved. In other words, the mortality rate you are calculating is based on only 3% of the cases being resolved (ending in recovery or death) while assuming the other 97% of the cases (all unresolved) will only result in recovery and none will result in death.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Just like with reported cases what the end results will look like depends on the age of the person getting the virus. For 3/4 of the people getting it they are staying home and treating it just like they would the flu, last year.

While there's no way to put a stat on it, a portion of those that died from this and will die from getting the virus...would have with the common flu.

So is it the virus or the age and underlining aliments causing the deaths? Most people that catch this will never see the inside of a hospital. They will recover.

(03-16-2020 08:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 04:53 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Some badly needed perspective on Coronavirus in the U.S.

US #CoronaVirusDeathRate by date:

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% March 9 (26 of 704)

3.01% March 10 (30 of 994)

2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295)

2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695)

2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247)

1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954)

1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)

https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronaVirusD...htag_click

What this data says to me is that as more cases are confirmed and more data subsequently becoming available, the U.S. death rate (as a percentage of those infected) is going DOWN. Calm down and follow the common sense guidelines for you and your families to stay safe. If one person in your household becomes infected, self quarantine the entire family. Perhaps segregate those elders most vulnerable from the rest of the family.

The over the top hype and fear mongering coming from media seems to me to be more dangerous than the virus, both for mental health and for our economy which is likely to go into a recession. Lots of small businesses will go under.

Ehhhh---During this phase of the curve whats also going up is percentage of active cases vs resolved as. Right now, we have 4667 total cases and are adding almost 1000 a day. Of that 4,667 cases, 4,506 are unresolved. In other words, the mortality rate you are calculating is based on only 3% of the cases being resolved (ending in recovery or death) while assuming the other 97% of the cases (all unresolved) will only result in recovery and none will result in death.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Just like with reported cases what the end results will look like depends on the age of the person getting the virus. For 3/4 of the people getting it they are staying home and treating it just like they would the flu, last year.

While there's no way to put a stat on it, a portion of those that died from this and will die from getting the virus...would have with the common flu.

So is it the virus or the age and underlining aliments causing the deaths? Most people that catch this will never see the inside of a hospital. They will recover.

Some interesting data out of France. Seems over half of their "critical" cases are under 60. That was surprising to me.

(03-16-2020 08:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 04:53 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Some badly needed perspective on Coronavirus in the U.S.

US #CoronaVirusDeathRate by date:

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% March 9 (26 of 704)

3.01% March 10 (30 of 994)

2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295)

2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695)

2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247)

1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954)

1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)

https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronaVirusD...htag_click

What this data says to me is that as more cases are confirmed and more data subsequently becoming available, the U.S. death rate (as a percentage of those infected) is going DOWN. Calm down and follow the common sense guidelines for you and your families to stay safe. If one person in your household becomes infected, self quarantine the entire family. Perhaps segregate those elders most vulnerable from the rest of the family.

The over the top hype and fear mongering coming from media seems to me to be more dangerous than the virus, both for mental health and for our economy which is likely to go into a recession. Lots of small businesses will go under.

Ehhhh---During this phase of the curve whats also going up is percentage of active cases vs resolved as. Right now, we have 4667 total cases and are adding almost 1000 a day. Of that 4,667 cases, 4,506 are unresolved. In other words, the mortality rate you are calculating is based on only 3% of the cases being resolved (ending in recovery or death) while assuming the other 97% of the cases (all unresolved) will only result in recovery and none will result in death.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Just like with reported cases what the end results will look like depends on the age of the person getting the virus. For 3/4 of the people getting it they are staying home and treating it just like they would the flu, last year.

While there's no way to put a stat on it, a portion of those that died from this and will die from getting the virus...would have with the common flu.

So is it the virus or the age and underlining aliments causing the deaths? Most people that catch this will never see the inside of a hospital. They will recover.

Some interesting data out of France. Seems over half of their "critical" cases are under 60. That was surprising to me.

I guess drinking wine with every meal DOESN'T have the health benefits they say it does.

(03-16-2020 08:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 04:53 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Some badly needed perspective on Coronavirus in the U.S.

US #CoronaVirusDeathRate by date:

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% March 9 (26 of 704)

3.01% March 10 (30 of 994)

2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295)

2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695)

2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247)

1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954)

1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)

https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronaVirusD...htag_click

What this data says to me is that as more cases are confirmed and more data subsequently becoming available, the U.S. death rate (as a percentage of those infected) is going DOWN. Calm down and follow the common sense guidelines for you and your families to stay safe. If one person in your household becomes infected, self quarantine the entire family. Perhaps segregate those elders most vulnerable from the rest of the family.

The over the top hype and fear mongering coming from media seems to me to be more dangerous than the virus, both for mental health and for our economy which is likely to go into a recession. Lots of small businesses will go under.

Ehhhh---During this phase of the curve whats also going up is percentage of active cases vs resolved as. Right now, we have 4667 total cases and are adding almost 1000 a day. Of that 4,667 cases, 4,506 are unresolved. In other words, the mortality rate you are calculating is based on only 3% of the cases being resolved (ending in recovery or death) while assuming the other 97% of the cases (all unresolved) will only result in recovery and none will result in death.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Just like with reported cases what the end results will look like depends on the age of the person getting the virus. For 3/4 of the people getting it they are staying home and treating it just like they would the flu, last year.

While there's no way to put a stat on it, a portion of those that died from this and will die from getting the virus...would have with the common flu.

So is it the virus or the age and underlining aliments causing the deaths? Most people that catch this will never see the inside of a hospital. They will recover.

Some interesting data out of France. Seems over half of their "critical" cases are under 60. That was surprising to me.

I dont know if its the case now but I thought France had a really high smoker rate? The few facts we kind of know right now....

if you are healthy you have a great chance to recover from this. If you are young 30 or under and healthy you probably wont be affected no more than a really bad cold or weak flu. If you are 65+ and not great but just below average shape you still have a 85-90% chance of recovery.

If you are 70+ and not in good health you still have a 80% chance of recovery

To me those numbers are not big enough for all of the concern of basically shutting down a country. A guess on my part I think the total number of dead will be no more than double the amount of the flu from last year. And 80+% of those deaths will be 70+ in age with a major aliment helping the cause. Out of the total number of deaths...80+ % will be obese

How long this lasts before we see some improvement is a big factor.

Today, Trump was asked the time question--how long before we see improvement. He said it was the same question he often asks the experts; then Trump answered with 'July or August', there could be an improvement. He said it could go on longer.

Now I am not in the habit of believing anything that comes out of a politician's mouth, but hearing T say 'July or August' was a bit unnerving.

Apparently the stock market agreed with me and shot down after this 'news'.

(03-16-2020 08:32 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 04:53 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Some badly needed perspective on Coronavirus in the U.S.

US #CoronaVirusDeathRate by date:

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)

3.69% March 9 (26 of 704)

3.01% March 10 (30 of 994)

2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295)

2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695)

2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247)

1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954)

1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)

https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronaVirusD...htag_click

What this data says to me is that as more cases are confirmed and more data subsequently becoming available, the U.S. death rate (as a percentage of those infected) is going DOWN. Calm down and follow the common sense guidelines for you and your families to stay safe. If one person in your household becomes infected, self quarantine the entire family. Perhaps segregate those elders most vulnerable from the rest of the family.

The over the top hype and fear mongering coming from media seems to me to be more dangerous than the virus, both for mental health and for our economy which is likely to go into a recession. Lots of small businesses will go under.

Ehhhh---During this phase of the curve whats also going up is percentage of active cases vs resolved as. Right now, we have 4667 total cases and are adding almost 1000 a day. Of that 4,667 cases, 4,506 are unresolved. In other words, the mortality rate you are calculating is based on only 3% of the cases being resolved (ending in recovery or death) while assuming the other 97% of the cases (all unresolved) will only result in recovery and none will result in death.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Just like with reported cases what the end results will look like depends on the age of the person getting the virus. For 3/4 of the people getting it they are staying home and treating it just like they would the flu, last year.

While there's no way to put a stat on it, a portion of those that died from this and will die from getting the virus...would have with the common flu.

So is it the virus or the age and underlining aliments causing the deaths? Most people that catch this will never see the inside of a hospital. They will recover.

Some interesting data out of France. Seems over half of their "critical" cases are under 60. That was surprising to me.

I dont know if its the case now but I thought France had a really high smoker rate? The few facts we kind of know right now....

if you are healthy you have a great chance to recover from this. If you are young 30 or under and healthy you probably wont be affected no more than a really bad cold or weak flu. If you are 65+ and not great but just below average shape you still have a 85-90% chance of recovery.

If you are 70+ and not in good health you still have a 80% chance of recovery

To me those numbers are not big enough for all of the concern of basically shutting down a country. A guess on my part I think the total number of dead will be no more than double the amount of the flu from last year. And 80+% of those deaths will be 70+ in age with a major aliment helping the cause. Out of the total number of deaths...80+ % will be obese

If the death toll is HALF the number of the flu I will be astonished. That would be 20,000-30,000. My guess it will not be 10% of that number.

Reading these threads it's clear to me that most here have not taken a statistics course since high school, if ever.

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Italy has had a high mortality rate as compared to other European countries.
High death rate from flu in Italy

Quote:Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.

(03-16-2020 09:37 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:32 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Ehhhh---During this phase of the curve whats also going up is percentage of active cases vs resolved as. Right now, we have 4667 total cases and are adding almost 1000 a day. Of that 4,667 cases, 4,506 are unresolved. In other words, the mortality rate you are calculating is based on only 3% of the cases being resolved (ending in recovery or death) while assuming the other 97% of the cases (all unresolved) will only result in recovery and none will result in death.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Just like with reported cases what the end results will look like depends on the age of the person getting the virus. For 3/4 of the people getting it they are staying home and treating it just like they would the flu, last year.

While there's no way to put a stat on it, a portion of those that died from this and will die from getting the virus...would have with the common flu.

So is it the virus or the age and underlining aliments causing the deaths? Most people that catch this will never see the inside of a hospital. They will recover.

Some interesting data out of France. Seems over half of their "critical" cases are under 60. That was surprising to me.

I dont know if its the case now but I thought France had a really high smoker rate? The few facts we kind of know right now....

if you are healthy you have a great chance to recover from this. If you are young 30 or under and healthy you probably wont be affected no more than a really bad cold or weak flu. If you are 65+ and not great but just below average shape you still have a 85-90% chance of recovery.

If you are 70+ and not in good health you still have a 80% chance of recovery

To me those numbers are not big enough for all of the concern of basically shutting down a country. A guess on my part I think the total number of dead will be no more than double the amount of the flu from last year. And 80+% of those deaths will be 70+ in age with a major aliment helping the cause. Out of the total number of deaths...80+ % will be obese

If the death toll is HALF the number of the flu I will be astonished. That would be 20,000-30,000. My guess it will not be 10% of that number.

If it is, then the measures taken here would have to be judged as successful. My guess is we will be able to keep our mortality numbers down....but some other European nations will not. Bottom line---Trump has no choice on this one. If this goes sideways, he probably doesnt win in November. If deaths here are in line or low compared to other western nations, then Trump gets re-elected because he did well in a crisis and virtually EVERYBODY knows Trump is the better choice to re-invigorate the economy.

(03-16-2020 09:37 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:32 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Ehhhh---During this phase of the curve whats also going up is percentage of active cases vs resolved as. Right now, we have 4667 total cases and are adding almost 1000 a day. Of that 4,667 cases, 4,506 are unresolved. In other words, the mortality rate you are calculating is based on only 3% of the cases being resolved (ending in recovery or death) while assuming the other 97% of the cases (all unresolved) will only result in recovery and none will result in death.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Just like with reported cases what the end results will look like depends on the age of the person getting the virus. For 3/4 of the people getting it they are staying home and treating it just like they would the flu, last year.

While there's no way to put a stat on it, a portion of those that died from this and will die from getting the virus...would have with the common flu.

So is it the virus or the age and underlining aliments causing the deaths? Most people that catch this will never see the inside of a hospital. They will recover.

Some interesting data out of France. Seems over half of their "critical" cases are under 60. That was surprising to me.

I dont know if its the case now but I thought France had a really high smoker rate? The few facts we kind of know right now....

if you are healthy you have a great chance to recover from this. If you are young 30 or under and healthy you probably wont be affected no more than a really bad cold or weak flu. If you are 65+ and not great but just below average shape you still have a 85-90% chance of recovery.

If you are 70+ and not in good health you still have a 80% chance of recovery

To me those numbers are not big enough for all of the concern of basically shutting down a country. A guess on my part I think the total number of dead will be no more than double the amount of the flu from last year. And 80+% of those deaths will be 70+ in age with a major aliment helping the cause. Out of the total number of deaths...80+ % will be obese

If the death toll is HALF the number of the flu I will be astonished. That would be 20,000-30,000. My guess it will not be 10% of that number.

This is an absurd statement if only because this virus has NO prior immunity in the country (or world for that matter).

(03-16-2020 10:12 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 09:37 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:32 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Just like with reported cases what the end results will look like depends on the age of the person getting the virus. For 3/4 of the people getting it they are staying home and treating it just like they would the flu, last year.

While there's no way to put a stat on it, a portion of those that died from this and will die from getting the virus...would have with the common flu.

So is it the virus or the age and underlining aliments causing the deaths? Most people that catch this will never see the inside of a hospital. They will recover.

Some interesting data out of France. Seems over half of their "critical" cases are under 60. That was surprising to me.

I dont know if its the case now but I thought France had a really high smoker rate? The few facts we kind of know right now....

if you are healthy you have a great chance to recover from this. If you are young 30 or under and healthy you probably wont be affected no more than a really bad cold or weak flu. If you are 65+ and not great but just below average shape you still have a 85-90% chance of recovery.

If you are 70+ and not in good health you still have a 80% chance of recovery

To me those numbers are not big enough for all of the concern of basically shutting down a country. A guess on my part I think the total number of dead will be no more than double the amount of the flu from last year. And 80+% of those deaths will be 70+ in age with a major aliment helping the cause. Out of the total number of deaths...80+ % will be obese

If the death toll is HALF the number of the flu I will be astonished. That would be 20,000-30,000. My guess it will not be 10% of that number.

This is an absurd statement if only because this virus has NO prior immunity in the country (or world for that matter).

That is an assumption. No one knows how long this virus has been here. Hands from anyone ever tested for something other than the flu or strep. There is a reason people test positive with no symptoms. It's because they have an immunity.

(03-16-2020 09:43 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Reading these threads it's clear to me that most here have not taken a statistics course since high school, if ever.

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Well at this point statistics on this is kind of meaningless because we are not comparing apples to apples. We have a death rate that reflects a total number that the media is trying to pass along as something its not. Making people act like idiots, locking theirself indoors and raiding stores and shutting down a country...

over statistics heavily swayed by the deaths of really old people with underlying diseases. The only difference from any other year...flu shot does not help. That is a concern but that concern should be limited to those up in age and not healthy.

No matter what statistics you want to use all of them point to someone in decent health and under the age of 70 you have just as good of a chance to recover as with the 'common flu'. The same as last year, the year before and every year before that.

If you are under 30 in good condition this will be no worse than a weak case of the flu or the common cold

If you are between the ages of 30 to 50 and good heath...its no worse than any other flu.

If you are between the ages of 51-69 and decent health you have the same recovery rate as any other flu that we dont shut the country down and destroy our economy.

I will bet by the time this is over the numbers visiting the ERs over this will be in line with any other flu season for those under 70.

(03-16-2020 10:22 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 10:12 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 09:37 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:32 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Some interesting data out of France. Seems over half of their "critical" cases are under 60. That was surprising to me.

I dont know if its the case now but I thought France had a really high smoker rate? The few facts we kind of know right now....

if you are healthy you have a great chance to recover from this. If you are young 30 or under and healthy you probably wont be affected no more than a really bad cold or weak flu. If you are 65+ and not great but just below average shape you still have a 85-90% chance of recovery.

If you are 70+ and not in good health you still have a 80% chance of recovery

To me those numbers are not big enough for all of the concern of basically shutting down a country. A guess on my part I think the total number of dead will be no more than double the amount of the flu from last year. And 80+% of those deaths will be 70+ in age with a major aliment helping the cause. Out of the total number of deaths...80+ % will be obese

If the death toll is HALF the number of the flu I will be astonished. That would be 20,000-30,000. My guess it will not be 10% of that number.

This is an absurd statement if only because this virus has NO prior immunity in the country (or world for that matter).

That is an assumption. No one knows how long this virus has been here. Hands from anyone ever tested for something other than the flu or strep. There is a reason people test positive with no symptoms. It's because they have an immunity.

For starters, H1N1, a relatively mild pandemic killed 12k+ in the US. I think it's crazy to believe this won't kill more than H1N1 did.

(03-16-2020 08:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Some interesting data out of France. Seems over half of their "critical" cases are under 60. That was surprising to me.

Yea, but we all know the French are pu$$ies so............

(03-16-2020 03:56 PM)Momus Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 03:47 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 03:40 PM)Momus Wrote:  Ladies and gentlemen, our health care system is going to be completely overwhelmed. We do not have anything approaching the resources necessary to deal with the growing cases of COVID19. We do not have the doctors, nurses, ICU facilities, or respiratory equipment that will be needed in the next 90 days. That’s not partisanship at all. That’s just the fact of the matter. I sincerely hope nobody here or their families need to utilize a hospital for any reason in the next several months. This is going to be painful, and this virus is going to expose the fragility of our health care system. Do what you need to do to stay healthy because hospitals are going to be a roll of the dice.

What gives you the impression any of the above is true? Are you just getting all this from the MSM?

Man, the media doesn’t want to tell you this stuff because they really aren’t trying to start panic. But the numbers don’t lie. There’s not nearly enough resources, and that message has finally gotten through the Orange Bubble around 1600 Pennsylvania and they’re going to start issuing increasingly dire warnings and instituting increasingly tighter restrictions trying to slow the spread just so hospitals can tread water. This virus isn’t interested in politics. It’s bringing the harshest of realities to us.

And it’s not an “impression” I have. It is what it is.

Media is doing a good enough job of helping to create a panic as is. Believe me, if all that above were true the media would definitely be telling us all about it. Have to keep those advertising dollars coming in you know..... Interesting that the media isn't telling us about all the recoveries though....

I am flat out disgusted the primaries are still going on today. In states like Florida and Arizona you are talking about a bunch of extremely old voters out waiting in lines. That's a disaster waiting to happen. They should postpone them and work out a vote by mail system until this is under control.

(03-16-2020 10:12 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 09:37 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:32 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Just like with reported cases what the end results will look like depends on the age of the person getting the virus. For 3/4 of the people getting it they are staying home and treating it just like they would the flu, last year.

While there's no way to put a stat on it, a portion of those that died from this and will die from getting the virus...would have with the common flu.

So is it the virus or the age and underlining aliments causing the deaths? Most people that catch this will never see the inside of a hospital. They will recover.

Some interesting data out of France. Seems over half of their "critical" cases are under 60. That was surprising to me.

I dont know if its the case now but I thought France had a really high smoker rate? The few facts we kind of know right now....

if you are healthy you have a great chance to recover from this. If you are young 30 or under and healthy you probably wont be affected no more than a really bad cold or weak flu. If you are 65+ and not great but just below average shape you still have a 85-90% chance of recovery.

If you are 70+ and not in good health you still have a 80% chance of recovery

To me those numbers are not big enough for all of the concern of basically shutting down a country. A guess on my part I think the total number of dead will be no more than double the amount of the flu from last year. And 80+% of those deaths will be 70+ in age with a major aliment helping the cause. Out of the total number of deaths...80+ % will be obese

If the death toll is HALF the number of the flu I will be astonished. That would be 20,000-30,000. My guess it will not be 10% of that number.

This is an absurd statement if only because this virus has NO prior immunity in the country (or world for that matter).

At the same time, when you look at South Korea's numbers, and knowing that South Korea is flattening, you have to wonder if all these huge figures are overblown.

(03-16-2020 11:11 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 10:22 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 10:12 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 09:37 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(03-16-2020 08:32 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  I dont know if its the case now but I thought France had a really high smoker rate? The few facts we kind of know right now....

if you are healthy you have a great chance to recover from this. If you are young 30 or under and healthy you probably wont be affected no more than a really bad cold or weak flu. If you are 65+ and not great but just below average shape you still have a 85-90% chance of recovery.

If you are 70+ and not in good health you still have a 80% chance of recovery

To me those numbers are not big enough for all of the concern of basically shutting down a country. A guess on my part I think the total number of dead will be no more than double the amount of the flu from last year. And 80+% of those deaths will be 70+ in age with a major aliment helping the cause. Out of the total number of deaths...80+ % will be obese

If the death toll is HALF the number of the flu I will be astonished. That would be 20,000-30,000. My guess it will not be 10% of that number.

This is an absurd statement if only because this virus has NO prior immunity in the country (or world for that matter).

That is an assumption. No one knows how long this virus has been here. Hands from anyone ever tested for something other than the flu or strep. There is a reason people test positive with no symptoms. It's because they have an immunity.

For starters, H1N1, a relatively mild pandemic killed 12k+ in the US. I think it's crazy to believe this won't kill more than H1N1 did.

The regular flue has already killed 60,000 this year.

For most of us, the real danger is not dying from getting sick from a virus that will spread. The danger is in not taking steps to address what some call an overreaction in dealing with the virus.

Overreaction or not, spend some time and money now to be able to ride out what could be a smooth couple weeks or very turbulent water. Take out the proverbial insurance policy on getting by.