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RE: What To Do With The Rest of 2020?
(03-13-2020 02:57 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-12-2020 08:58 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-12-2020 08:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  We have an opportunity that seldom exists. With nothing to show on the networks, no games to attend for AD's and the commissioners, and in most places no school for the Presidents, so we have a fantastic window to accomplish quite a few things that get mangled and bungled because of the inability to get everyone on the same page otherwise.

Let the Network Sports Directors, AD's, Commissioners, and Presidents get together with Emmert, even by teleconference and accomplish these things:

1. Come up with a unified plan for rights to image for players, and pay for play limits and set them in stone.

2. Go ahead and settle how any future realignment is to play out, even if the effective date isn't until 2024.

3. With realignment put to bed go ahead and determine the format for the future CFP. Will it be 4 in a champs only format or will it be 8.

4. Rework the bowl system and the tie ins to be more equitable for the respective divisions.

5. Determine the final standing on transfer rules, deciding eligibility issues for this stoppage, and determining in advance of any future emergency how they will be handled so the athletes are left hanging.

6. With all of the above in mind settle all of the conferences contracts for the future, reworking all of them and setting them to come due at the same time thereby setting all rates from the same base evaluation.

This will help with the competitiveness of all conferences and set definable standards that make clear to each conference what metrics they must meet to be able to expect raises.

7. Set a higher % of payout for all NCAA Tournament Teams. And make tournament credits all payable within 1 calendar year of the tournament in which they were earned.

8. Set up standardized training for all NCAA officials and make the officials answerable to the NCAA and not to conferences. Pay them full salaries and make sure they are eligible to call at least 2 different sports. Allow them to have benefits. This will help to standardize calls, discourage gambling influence due to the per game fee and per diem they currently get, now and make them accountable to no conference office.

I'm sure you may have some other suggestions, but they'll never be a better time to get everyone on the same page than there is right now and possibly for the next couple of months.

Then maybe we it all starts back we will be able to get comfortable with, accustomed to, and delight in the changes rather than cringe over them and stay constantly irritated by all the things that just don't seem to get settled.

That'd be ideal.

But here's what they're actually going to do:

[Image: MW-IB607_nerd_s_20200305191924_ZG.jpg?uu...8e992d421e]

When I saw that picture, I assumed it was from some previous hurricane warning. Until I went to the supermarket myself. What am I missing? Why would people be stocking up on toilet paper in such enormous quantities? Is diarrhea a symptom of the virus? Inquiring minds want to know.

No clue, people are buying up everything they can just because they're panicking. It's insane.
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People will run out of closet space soon.
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RE: What To Do With The Rest of 2020?
(03-13-2020 03:04 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 02:57 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-12-2020 08:58 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-12-2020 08:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  We have an opportunity that seldom exists. With nothing to show on the networks, no games to attend for AD's and the commissioners, and in most places no school for the Presidents, so we have a fantastic window to accomplish quite a few things that get mangled and bungled because of the inability to get everyone on the same page otherwise.

Let the Network Sports Directors, AD's, Commissioners, and Presidents get together with Emmert, even by teleconference and accomplish these things:

1. Come up with a unified plan for rights to image for players, and pay for play limits and set them in stone.

2. Go ahead and settle how any future realignment is to play out, even if the effective date isn't until 2024.

3. With realignment put to bed go ahead and determine the format for the future CFP. Will it be 4 in a champs only format or will it be 8.

4. Rework the bowl system and the tie ins to be more equitable for the respective divisions.

5. Determine the final standing on transfer rules, deciding eligibility issues for this stoppage, and determining in advance of any future emergency how they will be handled so the athletes are left hanging.

6. With all of the above in mind settle all of the conferences contracts for the future, reworking all of them and setting them to come due at the same time thereby setting all rates from the same base evaluation.

This will help with the competitiveness of all conferences and set definable standards that make clear to each conference what metrics they must meet to be able to expect raises.

7. Set a higher % of payout for all NCAA Tournament Teams. And make tournament credits all payable within 1 calendar year of the tournament in which they were earned.

8. Set up standardized training for all NCAA officials and make the officials answerable to the NCAA and not to conferences. Pay them full salaries and make sure they are eligible to call at least 2 different sports. Allow them to have benefits. This will help to standardize calls, discourage gambling influence due to the per game fee and per diem they currently get, now and make them accountable to no conference office.

I'm sure you may have some other suggestions, but they'll never be a better time to get everyone on the same page than there is right now and possibly for the next couple of months.

Then maybe we it all starts back we will be able to get comfortable with, accustomed to, and delight in the changes rather than cringe over them and stay constantly irritated by all the things that just don't seem to get settled.

That'd be ideal.

But here's what they're actually going to do:

[Image: MW-IB607_nerd_s_20200305191924_ZG.jpg?uu...8e992d421e]

When I saw that picture, I assumed it was from some previous hurricane warning. Until I went to the supermarket myself. What am I missing? Why would people be stocking up on toilet paper in such enormous quantities? Is diarrhea a symptom of the virus? Inquiring minds want to know.

No clue, people are buying up everything they can just because they're panicking. It's insane.

They are all idiots! Do they not know that the COVID19 gives you pneumonia not diarrhea?
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RE: What To Do With The Rest of 2020?
(03-13-2020 02:43 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 11:13 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 09:21 AM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 09:13 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-12-2020 09:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  No we don't. The SEC and Big 10 have shown no inclination to support it.

The Big 10 commissioner has spoken in favor of it. In the past, a number of SEC coaches and ADs have spoken in favor of it.

It WILL go to 8. Not necessarily before the contract comes up and not for certain when it comes up. But eventually.

I agree, 8 is the number. And I think conference champs get autobids, if they don't there's no need for a CCG and they'll be a thing of the past which would be a shame. The AAC commissioners entire career rests on getting the conference a seat at the table in that contract, 6 conf champs and 2 at large/wild cards.

Once "autobids" become a thing, that will be more motivation for the SEC, Big Ten, and Pac-12 to invite Texas/Oklahoma in hopes of making sure the Big 12 doesn't get an autobid.

I think autobids will become a slippery slope. If you give the AAC an autobid, the MWC will be saying why not us? I don't know how far they will get. If some school in some conference finds someone in Congress on their side, they can demand an autobid for their school's conference. Can you imagine an autobid for the MAC? At the very least, they'll say that the CFP can't discriminate and say these conferences have bids and these don't. Most other conferences have practically every conference that meets a certain criteria getting an automatic bid. What criteria will the CFP use for what conferences get an autobid? The CFP's best idea would be to keep no autobids at all.

Exactly the same way they were dubbed BCS conferences, and the AAC still has an opening so that team can inquire about joining. The MWC commissioner has spoken out in favor of the "G5" system while the AAC has been making strives to break away from the G label to the P label and it's gaining ground.

They got away with it during the BCS era because back then it was mainly a bunch of bowls and one "championship game" and non BCS conference teams weren't excluded from the championship game. Now no non BCS conference team ever made it but there was nothing in the BCS rules that specifically prevented it from happening. Now you can say unless there are 8 automatic bids that there would be nothing to prevent a team without a team from a conference without an automatic qualifier to get in as at "at large" team either but certainly teams and conferences will object if some conferences have automatic bids and some don't. There's a huge difference between an automatic bid to a "college football playoff" and an automatic bid to a "major" bowl game. Consider the amount of money at stake between the Playoff and the Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls in non playoff years.

I think no automatic bid is the answer. If one of the major conferences can't get its conference champion or another team as one of the top eight teams in the country, it doesn't deserve a team in the Playoff.
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RE: What To Do With The Rest of 2020?
(03-13-2020 03:49 PM)schmolik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 02:43 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 11:13 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 09:21 AM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 09:13 AM)bullet Wrote:  The Big 10 commissioner has spoken in favor of it. In the past, a number of SEC coaches and ADs have spoken in favor of it.

It WILL go to 8. Not necessarily before the contract comes up and not for certain when it comes up. But eventually.

I agree, 8 is the number. And I think conference champs get autobids, if they don't there's no need for a CCG and they'll be a thing of the past which would be a shame. The AAC commissioners entire career rests on getting the conference a seat at the table in that contract, 6 conf champs and 2 at large/wild cards.

Once "autobids" become a thing, that will be more motivation for the SEC, Big Ten, and Pac-12 to invite Texas/Oklahoma in hopes of making sure the Big 12 doesn't get an autobid.

I think autobids will become a slippery slope. If you give the AAC an autobid, the MWC will be saying why not us? I don't know how far they will get. If some school in some conference finds someone in Congress on their side, they can demand an autobid for their school's conference. Can you imagine an autobid for the MAC? At the very least, they'll say that the CFP can't discriminate and say these conferences have bids and these don't. Most other conferences have practically every conference that meets a certain criteria getting an automatic bid. What criteria will the CFP use for what conferences get an autobid? The CFP's best idea would be to keep no autobids at all.

Exactly the same way they were dubbed BCS conferences, and the AAC still has an opening so that team can inquire about joining. The MWC commissioner has spoken out in favor of the "G5" system while the AAC has been making strives to break away from the G label to the P label and it's gaining ground.

They got away with it during the BCS era because back then it was mainly a bunch of bowls and one "championship game" and non BCS conference teams weren't excluded from the championship game. Now no non BCS conference team ever made it but there was nothing in the BCS rules that specifically prevented it from happening. Now you can say unless there are 8 automatic bids that there would be nothing to prevent a team without a team from a conference without an automatic qualifier to get in as at "at large" team either but certainly teams and conferences will object if some conferences have automatic bids and some don't. There's a huge difference between an automatic bid to a "college football playoff" and an automatic bid to a "major" bowl game. Consider the amount of money at stake between the Playoff and the Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls in non playoff years.

I think no automatic bid is the answer. If one of the major conferences can't get its conference champion or another team as one of the top eight teams in the country, it doesn't deserve a team in the Playoff.

On paper sure but on paper the "G5" conferences also have equal access to the CFP now but UCF going undefeated back to back years (one as the only undefeated team on selection day) and not getting in proves the "G5" will always be left out regardless of how many times CFP spokesmen say they "see a path". So if 4 of the "G5" conferences are fine with that setup then they can keep it for the 2 at large spots in the expanded playoffs.

6 autobids for conf champs also makes seeding easier. 1-6 is the conf champs seeded by the conferences total OOC record. 7 & 8 are at large.
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RE: What To Do With The Rest of 2020?
(03-13-2020 04:04 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 03:49 PM)schmolik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 02:43 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 11:13 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 09:21 AM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  I agree, 8 is the number. And I think conference champs get autobids, if they don't there's no need for a CCG and they'll be a thing of the past which would be a shame. The AAC commissioners entire career rests on getting the conference a seat at the table in that contract, 6 conf champs and 2 at large/wild cards.

Once "autobids" become a thing, that will be more motivation for the SEC, Big Ten, and Pac-12 to invite Texas/Oklahoma in hopes of making sure the Big 12 doesn't get an autobid.

I think autobids will become a slippery slope. If you give the AAC an autobid, the MWC will be saying why not us? I don't know how far they will get. If some school in some conference finds someone in Congress on their side, they can demand an autobid for their school's conference. Can you imagine an autobid for the MAC? At the very least, they'll say that the CFP can't discriminate and say these conferences have bids and these don't. Most other conferences have practically every conference that meets a certain criteria getting an automatic bid. What criteria will the CFP use for what conferences get an autobid? The CFP's best idea would be to keep no autobids at all.

Exactly the same way they were dubbed BCS conferences, and the AAC still has an opening so that team can inquire about joining. The MWC commissioner has spoken out in favor of the "G5" system while the AAC has been making strives to break away from the G label to the P label and it's gaining ground.

They got away with it during the BCS era because back then it was mainly a bunch of bowls and one "championship game" and non BCS conference teams weren't excluded from the championship game. Now no non BCS conference team ever made it but there was nothing in the BCS rules that specifically prevented it from happening. Now you can say unless there are 8 automatic bids that there would be nothing to prevent a team without a team from a conference without an automatic qualifier to get in as at "at large" team either but certainly teams and conferences will object if some conferences have automatic bids and some don't. There's a huge difference between an automatic bid to a "college football playoff" and an automatic bid to a "major" bowl game. Consider the amount of money at stake between the Playoff and the Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls in non playoff years.

I think no automatic bid is the answer. If one of the major conferences can't get its conference champion or another team as one of the top eight teams in the country, it doesn't deserve a team in the Playoff.

On paper sure but on paper the "G5" conferences also have equal access to the CFP now but UCF going undefeated back to back years (one as the only undefeated team on selection day) and not getting in proves the "G5" will always be left out regardless of how many times CFP spokesmen say they "see a path". So if 4 of the "G5" conferences are fine with that setup then they can keep it for the 2 at large spots in the expanded playoffs.

6 autobids for conf champs also makes seeding easier. 1-6 is the conf champs seeded by the conferences total OOC record. 7 & 8 are at large.

Giving the top 6 conference champions the top 6 seeds only make it worse for the "have nots", you're saying they can at best be the 7 seed even if they are ranked #1 in the AP/USAT polls. Remember that also includes Notre Dame (not that I would be against that, especially if it forces the Irish into a conference for football once and for all).

Considering the CFP Governance (the 10 FBS conferences and Notre Dame), your proposal of 6 autobids would have 5 guaranteed no votes (MWC, MAC, C-USA, Sun Belt, Notre Dame) and 4 guaranteed yes votes (AAC, Pac-12, Big 12, ACC, they'd gain the most if Notre Dame is forced to join a conference before their GOR expires). The Big Ten's on the fence and the SEC looks like they are against it, especially if the AAC gets an autobid. The problem is excluding the AAC and they're a no vote and that kills the proposal. The only hope is convincing the Big Ten and SEC that it's worthwhile for the AAC (as well as the ACC, Pac 12, and Big 12) to have automatic bids.
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RE: What To Do With The Rest of 2020?
(03-13-2020 04:19 PM)schmolik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 04:04 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 03:49 PM)schmolik Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 02:43 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 11:13 AM)schmolik Wrote:  Once "autobids" become a thing, that will be more motivation for the SEC, Big Ten, and Pac-12 to invite Texas/Oklahoma in hopes of making sure the Big 12 doesn't get an autobid.

I think autobids will become a slippery slope. If you give the AAC an autobid, the MWC will be saying why not us? I don't know how far they will get. If some school in some conference finds someone in Congress on their side, they can demand an autobid for their school's conference. Can you imagine an autobid for the MAC? At the very least, they'll say that the CFP can't discriminate and say these conferences have bids and these don't. Most other conferences have practically every conference that meets a certain criteria getting an automatic bid. What criteria will the CFP use for what conferences get an autobid? The CFP's best idea would be to keep no autobids at all.

Exactly the same way they were dubbed BCS conferences, and the AAC still has an opening so that team can inquire about joining. The MWC commissioner has spoken out in favor of the "G5" system while the AAC has been making strives to break away from the G label to the P label and it's gaining ground.

They got away with it during the BCS era because back then it was mainly a bunch of bowls and one "championship game" and non BCS conference teams weren't excluded from the championship game. Now no non BCS conference team ever made it but there was nothing in the BCS rules that specifically prevented it from happening. Now you can say unless there are 8 automatic bids that there would be nothing to prevent a team without a team from a conference without an automatic qualifier to get in as at "at large" team either but certainly teams and conferences will object if some conferences have automatic bids and some don't. There's a huge difference between an automatic bid to a "college football playoff" and an automatic bid to a "major" bowl game. Consider the amount of money at stake between the Playoff and the Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls in non playoff years.

I think no automatic bid is the answer. If one of the major conferences can't get its conference champion or another team as one of the top eight teams in the country, it doesn't deserve a team in the Playoff.

On paper sure but on paper the "G5" conferences also have equal access to the CFP now but UCF going undefeated back to back years (one as the only undefeated team on selection day) and not getting in proves the "G5" will always be left out regardless of how many times CFP spokesmen say they "see a path". So if 4 of the "G5" conferences are fine with that setup then they can keep it for the 2 at large spots in the expanded playoffs.

6 autobids for conf champs also makes seeding easier. 1-6 is the conf champs seeded by the conferences total OOC record. 7 & 8 are at large.

Giving the top 6 conference champions the top 6 seeds only make it worse for the "have nots", you're saying they can at best be the 7 seed even if they are ranked #1 in the AP/USAT polls. Remember that also includes Notre Dame (not that I would be against that, especially if it forces the Irish into a conference for football once and for all).

Considering the CFP Governance (the 10 FBS conferences and Notre Dame), your proposal of 6 autobids would have 5 guaranteed no votes (MWC, MAC, C-USA, Sun Belt, Notre Dame) and 4 guaranteed yes votes (AAC, Pac-12, Big 12, ACC, they'd gain the most if Notre Dame is forced to join a conference before their GOR expires). The Big Ten's on the fence and the SEC looks like they are against it, especially if the AAC gets an autobid. The problem is excluding the AAC and they're a no vote and that kills the proposal. The only hope is convincing the Big Ten and SEC that it's worthwhile for the AAC (as well as the ACC, Pac 12, and Big 12) to have automatic bids.

Essentially yes ND would be forced to join or fight for an at large spot, I'm not sure they care enough to still join under those circumstances though.
I think the AAC has proved it belongs with the P group instead of the G group. A new years day access bowl can be kept outside the playoffs, like it is now, for the G4 if it's needed.
IIRC don't the autonomy conferences votes weigh much more than the non autonomy conferences, hopefully this vote would also come with granting the AAC autonomy.
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(03-13-2020 04:48 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  but UCF going undefeated back to back years (one as the only undefeated team on selection day) and not getting in proves the "G5" will always be left out



Considering the CFP Governance (the 10 FBS conferences and Notre Dame), your proposal of 6 autobids would have 5 guaranteed no votes (MWC, MAC, C-USA, Sun Belt, Notre Dame) and 4 guaranteed yes votes (AAC, Pac-12, Big 12, ACC, they'd gain the most if Notre Dame is forced to join a conference before their GOR expires).


I think the AAC has proved it belongs with the P group instead of the G group.
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I think we're throwing that "prove" word around a bit carelessly. I understand why a UCF fan would want to assert it, but it doesn't make it true, and many fans believe it to be false.

As for "yes" or "no" votes on the CFP, I think we may be making another assumption that may not be true. There is no contractual requirement that the CFP itself exist without change in perpetuity. If the autonomous conferences unanimously want something, they always have the option of disbanding the CFP if the G5 won't go along. Their "no" votes won't count for much if that happens.
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(03-13-2020 03:04 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 02:57 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-12-2020 08:58 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-12-2020 08:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  We have an opportunity that seldom exists. With nothing to show on the networks, no games to attend for AD's and the commissioners, and in most places no school for the Presidents, so we have a fantastic window to accomplish quite a few things that get mangled and bungled because of the inability to get everyone on the same page otherwise.

Let the Network Sports Directors, AD's, Commissioners, and Presidents get together with Emmert, even by teleconference and accomplish these things:

1. Come up with a unified plan for rights to image for players, and pay for play limits and set them in stone.

2. Go ahead and settle how any future realignment is to play out, even if the effective date isn't until 2024.

3. With realignment put to bed go ahead and determine the format for the future CFP. Will it be 4 in a champs only format or will it be 8.

4. Rework the bowl system and the tie ins to be more equitable for the respective divisions.

5. Determine the final standing on transfer rules, deciding eligibility issues for this stoppage, and determining in advance of any future emergency how they will be handled so the athletes are left hanging.

6. With all of the above in mind settle all of the conferences contracts for the future, reworking all of them and setting them to come due at the same time thereby setting all rates from the same base evaluation.

This will help with the competitiveness of all conferences and set definable standards that make clear to each conference what metrics they must meet to be able to expect raises.

7. Set a higher % of payout for all NCAA Tournament Teams. And make tournament credits all payable within 1 calendar year of the tournament in which they were earned.

8. Set up standardized training for all NCAA officials and make the officials answerable to the NCAA and not to conferences. Pay them full salaries and make sure they are eligible to call at least 2 different sports. Allow them to have benefits. This will help to standardize calls, discourage gambling influence due to the per game fee and per diem they currently get, now and make them accountable to no conference office.

I'm sure you may have some other suggestions, but they'll never be a better time to get everyone on the same page than there is right now and possibly for the next couple of months.

Then maybe we it all starts back we will be able to get comfortable with, accustomed to, and delight in the changes rather than cringe over them and stay constantly irritated by all the things that just don't seem to get settled.

That'd be ideal.

But here's what they're actually going to do:

[Image: MW-IB607_nerd_s_20200305191924_ZG.jpg?uu...8e992d421e]

When I saw that picture, I assumed it was from some previous hurricane warning. Until I went to the supermarket myself. What am I missing? Why would people be stocking up on toilet paper in such enormous quantities? Is diarrhea a symptom of the virus? Inquiring minds want to know.

No clue, people are buying up everything they can just because they're panicking. It's insane.

COVID19 can be transmitted through fecal matter. It can also be transmitted to someone as far as 6 feet away. Farting at someone within 6 feet can give them coronavirus.
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While I don't expect a move to an 8 team playoff anytime soon, it wouldn't completely surprise me if it were to happen in my lifetime. If it does, I would hope it would be structured in a way that takes it largely out of the hands of a selection committee. I am a fan of using a composite ranking that averages the ranks of at least five highly regarded systems, each using slightly different algorithms to evaluate teams.

At that point, my suggestion would be this. Automatic bids go to the seven highest ranked conference champions. The eighth spot goes to the highest ranked team that was not eligible to play in a conference championship. The pool of candidates for this spot would include all independent schools (including Notre Dame) as well as conference teams that didn't win their division.

The four highest ranked teams would host the others on their home field, with the highest ranked team hosting the lowest ranked (seeded) team in the usual bracket format. These games would be played the week after championship week, and the first round losers would be eligible to play in a bowl game as well.

I would imagine that almost every year every P5 champion would qualify, and that the at large spot would also go to a P5 school. But two of the champions spots would by definition go to G5 teams.

My two cents.
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So what’s the biggest reform you would all like to see in college athletics?
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Its gonna take these guy's 10 months to decide where meeting will be.
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(03-13-2020 07:40 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 03:04 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(03-13-2020 02:57 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-12-2020 08:58 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  ...here's what they're actually going to do:

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...What am I missing? Why would people be stocking up on toilet paper in such enormous quantities? Is diarrhea a symptom of the virus? Inquiring minds want to know.

No clue, people are buying up everything they can just because they're panicking. It's insane.

COVID19 can be transmitted through fecal matter. It can also be transmitted to someone as far as 6 feet away. Farting at someone within 6 feet can give them coronavirus.

So are you saying the COVID is about to hit the fan?
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RE: What To Do With The Rest of 2020?
(03-13-2020 09:03 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Its gonna take these guy's 10 months to decide where meeting will be.

Yes but they also just tipped their hand and showed everyone they're actually capable of making decisions quickly with their covid19 response.
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RE: What To Do With The Rest of 2020?
Remember the CFP has no affiliation with the NCAA at all. The NCAA's college football championship is the FCS one. When the NCAA decided to give the "P5" autonomy, that was before Villanova won two national championships in men's basketball. If the NCAA were to add a sixth conference to the autonomy group and revenue NCAA championships were the criteria meaning men's basketball was the most important, the Big East would be ahead of the AAC for the race for the 6th autonomy conference. They've won more games in the NCAA Tournament than the Pathetic 12 in the 2010's. Once UConn joins the Big East, it will be clear the Big East is ahead. They can't use the fact that they don't have football against them. Also, if women's basketball counts, it shifts way in favor of the BE over the AAC. And if the five current autonomy have any say as to allowing the AAC in, all it takes for the Big 12 is to invite UCF, Cincinnati, or enough to take the value out of the AAC and then they won't have any argument for to be an autonomy conference. Would you rather one extra seat at the table in decision making or two extra mouths to feed in your own conference? Of course from UCF's perspective, they likely can't lose if either option is forced.

As for the idea that the P5's can scrap the CFP and start something new, which conferences are "in" and which are "out" will probably be determined most by whoever is paying, the media company (most likely ESPN, maybe FOX or CBS if they outbid ESPN). The AAC may play well on the field but do they attract eyeballs? If ESPN can call the shots there, they probably would rather just take UCF and Houston and put them in the Big 12 (if they aren't just thinking of moving Texas/Oklahoma to the SEC/Pac 12 and taking out the Big 12).

Bottom line: There's nothing really in it for the current P5's to give the AAC an extra seat in their table. If push comes to shove, UCF/Houston/Cincinnati or two of the three will be in the Big 12 before the AAC becomes a P6.
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A tough decision on my part, enjoying CFB so much, but going back to a normal life w/o sports. It will be interesting to see how this affects sports watching in the future, if it extends to a longer time that has been reported.
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(03-16-2020 06:28 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  A tough decision on my part, enjoying CFB so much, but going back to a normal life w/o sports. It will be interesting to see how this affects sports watching in the future, if it extends to a longer time that has been reported.

What will also be interesting is what would happen to media contracts if the football season were to be cancelled. Up until now, there has been almost no impact on media companies relative to what they paid to the conferences. The only thing the conferences weren't able to provide in the way of inventory is the remnants of unfinished conference tournaments.

But surely ESPN isn't going to pay conferences next year if they have no football inventory. A question in my mind is whether such an event would void those contracts entirely, or if they would resume intact once the conferences can deliver a full complement of inventory the following year. If they are voided, does that speed up the clock regarding potential conference realignment?

Another question is whether companies like ESPN would even survive if we have 9 months or more with virtually no live sports. Now, frankly, I think there would be too much public pressure for that to actually happen. But so far I've been surprised by a lot of things I never thought I would see.
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RE: What To Do With The Rest of 2020?
(03-17-2020 06:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-16-2020 06:28 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  A tough decision on my part, enjoying CFB so much, but going back to a normal life w/o sports. It will be interesting to see how this affects sports watching in the future, if it extends to a longer time that has been reported.

What will also be interesting is what would happen to media contracts if the football season were to be cancelled. Up until now, there has been almost no impact on media companies relative to what they paid to the conferences. The only thing the conferences weren't able to provide in the way of inventory is the remnants of unfinished conference tournaments.

But surely ESPN isn't going to pay conferences next year if they have no football inventory. A question in my mind is whether such an event would void those contracts entirely, or if they would resume intact once the conferences can deliver a full complement of inventory the following year. If they are voided, does that speed up the clock regarding potential conference realignment?

Another question is whether companies like ESPN would even survive if we have 9 months or more with virtually no live sports. Now, frankly, I think there would be too much public pressure for that to actually happen. But so far I've been surprised by a lot of things I never thought I would see.

We are already seeing that the federal government is stating to pay attention, as far as helping. That is not even considering there is insurance to help with an affect to their profits not of their control, as far as this is concerned.
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RE: What To Do With The Rest of 2020?
(03-17-2020 06:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(03-16-2020 06:28 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  A tough decision on my part, enjoying CFB so much, but going back to a normal life w/o sports. It will be interesting to see how this affects sports watching in the future, if it extends to a longer time that has been reported.

What will also be interesting is what would happen to media contracts if the football season were to be cancelled. Up until now, there has been almost no impact on media companies relative to what they paid to the conferences. The only thing the conferences weren't able to provide in the way of inventory is the remnants of unfinished conference tournaments.

But surely ESPN isn't going to pay conferences next year if they have no football inventory. A question in my mind is whether such an event would void those contracts entirely, or if they would resume intact once the conferences can deliver a full complement of inventory the following year. If they are voided, does that speed up the clock regarding potential conference realignment?

Another question is whether companies like ESPN would even survive if we have 9 months or more with virtually no live sports. Now, frankly, I think there would be too much public pressure for that to actually happen. But so far I've been surprised by a lot of things I never thought I would see.

That alone should tell you this is no ordinary event and that there are many different hands at play in what is happening and some for the good and some for the evil, and many just in reactive mode. There is a complexity to all of this that has yet to be revealed.

But as to the contracts with companies like ESPN most of these games have event insurance. I don't think ESPN goes under after a 9 month hiatus. But I think some marginal football programs might if they aren't compensated. The Tourney cancellation probably has more than a few reconsidering the sports they offer.
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