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(04-11-2020 07:09 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:08 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:00 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of President Trump’s coronavirus task force, said Friday that certificates of immunity for Americans have been discussed during White House meetings, according to a report.

Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on CNN that the idea that people carry such certificates to prove they have tested positive for antibodies might “have some merit under certain circumstances.”

I imagine that you will be able to add it to your electronic wallet on your phone for convenience.

clt hopes we get a sweet hat or something.

Another option could be a tattoo. It would be a more permanent solution. I have seen a few dragon tattoos displayed around B’ham if you prefer a distinctly decorative commemoration of your covid 19 immunity.
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Darwinism...

in effect that's what happened during the 3-year run of the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic that ultimately killed 50 million people worldwide. Some researchers say that 100% of the people "caught it." Most survived it and afterwards established a worldwide immunity to that strain of the virus. If true, the death of 50 million people is a high price to pay. I suppose the world could have done the same thing with C-19. Survivors would have a built-in immunity to it. But what would the 2020 price tag have been in lost lives?
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(04-10-2020 03:06 PM)Dusky Wrote:  
(04-10-2020 10:07 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 08:45 PM)Dusky Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 08:25 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(04-09-2020 06:08 PM)Dusky Wrote:  I’m sorry to hear about your mother and sister and odds say they will be fine but the fact is based on the predictions and the actual numbers it’s WAY WAY overblown. We went from north of 1m to 60k, you don’t think that’s overblown?

The projections are down BECAUSE OF what we did. That was the whole point.

From 1m+ to 60 k...ok I have a bridge to sell you. Call me.

You can't be serious. You don't think the 10's of millions of people staying home hasn't had an effect on reducing massive transmission? We'll know soon enough. Some countries most probably including the U.S. will lift restrictions that have been put into place too soon and this will cause new waves of infection.

We're not going to be out of this predicament until everyone has gotten it or we have a vaccine. This is a highly efficiently spread novel virus.

Completely serious. If you believe the models, which took social distancing into the formula, had predictions of 1 to 2M and now they are predicting 60-65k is because of our actions you unbelievably gullible.

I am huh. Well, that's interesting. Please tell me your expertise in modeling, epidemiology, and disease transmission rates for this particular virus.

I will stand by and wait for you to demonstrate how you have more expertise in this area. I'm all ears.
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(04-11-2020 07:09 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
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(04-11-2020 07:00 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of President Trump’s coronavirus task force, said Friday that certificates of immunity for Americans have been discussed during White House meetings, according to a report.

Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on CNN that the idea that people carry such certificates to prove they have tested positive for antibodies might “have some merit under certain circumstances.”

I imagine that you will be able to add it to your electronic wallet on your phone for convenience.

clt hopes we get a sweet hat or something.

Or Office Space type "flair" like a pin on button for those special occasions.

That said the problem with this is people will even figure out a way to counterfeit that (and probably for profit). No different than the people who say their dog is a service pet just so it can go with them on vacation.
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(04-10-2020 06:04 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
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(04-10-2020 11:25 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  It's hard to argue that COVID-19 is not a mostly "New York/New Jersey" problem. According to CNN (not my favorite source), literally 42.2% of all Coronavirus deaths to date in the U.S. are in the state of New York (7,067 deaths). Throw in nearby New Jersey (1,709), and those two states alone represent 52.4% of all Coronavirus deaths in the United States as of today.

Those are fascinating statistics.

By contrast, the other 6 "largest" U.S. states by population --such as California (547 deaths), Florida (371), Illinois (529), Pennsylvania (365), Texas (223) and Ohio (213)-- pale in comparison, and represent only 13.4% of total deaths COMBINED.

This is a NewYork/New Jersey virus, and the rest of us are simply outliers forced to play along.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/hea...and-cases/

That’s because the majority of the infected people who entered the country flew into NYC/NJ the largest and most densely populated area in the US. It’s also the area of the country where mass transit is widespread which also contributed to the spread. And of course throughout the country from there.

You make a very strong argument for stronger immigration and border control.

That said, according to Pew Research, Texas is tied for 2nd with New York for immigrant population, and both states trail California in the same category. And yet, despite having equally as large or larger immigrant populations as New York, both Texas and California are very far behind New York when it comes to the number of deaths due to Coronavirus.

I do understand and agree with the mass transit argument. But New York's problem is, that isn't going away.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20...s-in-size/

the infected people that flew into New York from Europe came for business/pleasure and it has nothing to do with immigration. covid 19 was not spread throughout the US by migrants sneaking across the border. it was spread by people with passports flying into the country legally.
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(04-11-2020 07:15 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:09 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:08 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:00 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of President Trump’s coronavirus task force, said Friday that certificates of immunity for Americans have been discussed during White House meetings, according to a report.

Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on CNN that the idea that people carry such certificates to prove they have tested positive for antibodies might “have some merit under certain circumstances.”

I imagine that you will be able to add it to your electronic wallet on your phone for convenience.

clt hopes we get a sweet hat or something.

Another option could be a tattoo. It would be a more permanent solution. I have seen a few dragon tattoos displayed around B’ham if you prefer a distinctly decorative commemoration of your covid 19 immunity.

You can't be serious? You mean, just like the Nazi's tattooed the people in their concentration camps?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identifica...tion_camps

Some of you people really don't think past the end of your nose.
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(04-11-2020 09:51 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(04-10-2020 06:04 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(04-10-2020 01:59 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(04-10-2020 11:25 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  It's hard to argue that COVID-19 is not a mostly "New York/New Jersey" problem. According to CNN (not my favorite source), literally 42.2% of all Coronavirus deaths to date in the U.S. are in the state of New York (7,067 deaths). Throw in nearby New Jersey (1,709), and those two states alone represent 52.4% of all Coronavirus deaths in the United States as of today.

Those are fascinating statistics.

By contrast, the other 6 "largest" U.S. states by population --such as California (547 deaths), Florida (371), Illinois (529), Pennsylvania (365), Texas (223) and Ohio (213)-- pale in comparison, and represent only 13.4% of total deaths COMBINED.

This is a NewYork/New Jersey virus, and the rest of us are simply outliers forced to play along.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/hea...and-cases/

That’s because the majority of the infected people who entered the country flew into NYC/NJ the largest and most densely populated area in the US. It’s also the area of the country where mass transit is widespread which also contributed to the spread. And of course throughout the country from there.

You make a very strong argument for stronger immigration and border control.

That said, according to Pew Research, Texas is tied for 2nd with New York for immigrant population, and both states trail California in the same category. And yet, despite having equally as large or larger immigrant populations as New York, both Texas and California are very far behind New York when it comes to the number of deaths due to Coronavirus.

I do understand and agree with the mass transit argument. But New York's problem is, that isn't going away.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20...s-in-size/

the infected people that flew into New York from Europe came for business/pleasure and it has nothing to do with immigration. covid 19 was not spread throughout the US by migrants sneaking across the border. it was spread by people with passports flying into the country legally.

So, back to my original point....this truly is a New York/New Jersey problem. Regardless of how New York got it.....the fact remains that more than half of the Coronavirus deaths are centered in those two states, while the other 48 states and DC share the other 45% of deaths.
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(04-11-2020 07:15 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:09 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:08 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:00 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of President Trump’s coronavirus task force, said Friday that certificates of immunity for Americans have been discussed during White House meetings, according to a report.

Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on CNN that the idea that people carry such certificates to prove they have tested positive for antibodies might “have some merit under certain circumstances.”

I imagine that you will be able to add it to your electronic wallet on your phone for convenience.

clt hopes we get a sweet hat or something.

Another option could be a tattoo. It would be a more permanent solution. I have seen a few dragon tattoos displayed around B’ham if you prefer a distinctly decorative commemoration of your covid 19 immunity.

clt says we are all going to get tramp stamps!
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(04-11-2020 09:18 AM)Tech80 Wrote:  Darwinism...

in effect that's what happened during the 3-year run of the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic that ultimately killed 50 million people worldwide. Some researchers say that 100% of the people "caught it." Most survived it and afterwards established a worldwide immunity to that strain of the virus. If true, the death of 50 million people is a high price to pay. I suppose the world could have done the same thing with C-19. Survivors would have a built-in immunity to it. But what would the 2020 price tag have been in lost lives?

in the US 3-6 million conservative estimate.
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(04-11-2020 11:05 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:15 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:09 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:08 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:00 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of President Trump’s coronavirus task force, said Friday that certificates of immunity for Americans have been discussed during White House meetings, according to a report.

Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on CNN that the idea that people carry such certificates to prove they have tested positive for antibodies might “have some merit under certain circumstances.”

I imagine that you will be able to add it to your electronic wallet on your phone for convenience.

clt hopes we get a sweet hat or something.

Another option could be a tattoo. It would be a more permanent solution. I have seen a few dragon tattoos displayed around B’ham if you prefer a distinctly decorative commemoration of your covid 19 immunity.

You can't be serious? You mean, just like the Nazi's tattooed the people in their concentration camps?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identifica...tion_camps

Some of you people really don't think past the end of your nose.

No I wasn’t being serious. It was a feeble attempt to respond to CLT’s feeble attempt at humor. Perhaps more of us could find a little more between our ears and be a little more tolerant of others.
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(04-11-2020 02:39 PM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 11:05 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:15 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:09 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:08 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  I imagine that you will be able to add it to your electronic wallet on your phone for convenience.

clt hopes we get a sweet hat or something.

Another option could be a tattoo. It would be a more permanent solution. I have seen a few dragon tattoos displayed around B’ham if you prefer a distinctly decorative commemoration of your covid 19 immunity.

You can't be serious? You mean, just like the Nazi's tattooed the people in their concentration camps?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identifica...tion_camps

Some of you people really don't think past the end of your nose.

No I wasn’t being serious. It was a feeble attempt to respond to CLT’s feeble attempt at humor. Perhaps more of us could find a little more between our ears and be a little more tolerant of others.


clt says your Effort was a feeble attempt to make humour at clt’s joke that went over your head like a blimp at talladega.
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(04-11-2020 11:05 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:15 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:09 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:08 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(04-11-2020 07:00 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of President Trump’s coronavirus task force, said Friday that certificates of immunity for Americans have been discussed during White House meetings, according to a report.

Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on CNN that the idea that people carry such certificates to prove they have tested positive for antibodies might “have some merit under certain circumstances.”

I imagine that you will be able to add it to your electronic wallet on your phone for convenience.

clt hopes we get a sweet hat or something.

Another option could be a tattoo. It would be a more permanent solution. I have seen a few dragon tattoos displayed around B’ham if you prefer a distinctly decorative commemoration of your covid 19 immunity.

You can't be serious? You mean, just like the Nazi's tattooed the people in their concentration camps?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identifica...tion_camps

Some of you people really don't think past the end of your nose.

Or maybe the mark of the beast from revelations.
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The guys doing the modeling need to go back modeling global warming...

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Models are only as good as the assumptions, which were obviously poor. The issue is not that the models are wrong (lots of models are wrong), but when you are using a model to continually push out the resumption of economic activity date, that’s when it better be right. That said, the lack of readily available testing is limiting not only the modeling but the ability for the company to slowly get back to work. The federal government has completely botched this response
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(04-13-2020 03:58 PM)SpaceRaider Wrote:  The guys doing the modeling need to go back modeling global warming...



clt isn’t making a political comment. But the source tweet cannot spell and he is using the worst cause scenario.
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