Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
MBB conference tournament 2020
Author Message
Bookmark and Share
elw4796 Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,844
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation: 27
I Root For: Rice
Location:
Post: #41
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
It really is baffling that our defense is still this bad. Like we're at a disadvantage right off the get go just because of our size, but it's systematic. From 1 to 5, there are just so many needless breakdowns.
03-11-2020 08:15 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
mrbig Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,747
Joined: Jun 2008
Reputation: 110
I Root For: Rice
Location: New Orleans
Post: #42
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
Disappointing season. Hopefully no one transfers? The freshmen take a step forward, and the team can gain some consistency heading into next year.
03-11-2020 08:35 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DFW Owl Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,916
Joined: Jan 2004
Reputation: 8
I Root For: Rice
Location:

New Orleans Bowl
Post: #43
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
Our all-time record in conference tournaments is truly awful. Have never made a final and maybe made only one semi?
03-11-2020 08:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Owl 69/70/75 Offline
Just an old rugby coach
*

Posts: 64,883
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 1679
I Root For: RiceBathChelsea
Location: Montgomery, TX

DonatorsNew Orleans Bowl
Post: #44
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
For a little perspective, the last Rice mens basketball coach with a winning record was Don Suman in 1949-59
03-11-2020 08:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tiki Owl Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 19,923
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 111
I Root For: Rice Owls
Location: Tiki Island

The Parliament AwardsCrappiesNew Orleans BowlDonatorsThe Parliament Awards
Post: #45
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
On the bright side the improvement in Drew has been huge.
03-11-2020 09:00 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Fort Bend Owl Online
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 23,952
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 288
I Root For: An easy win
Location:

The Parliament Awards
Post: #46
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
I'll bet you by the weekend the NCAA tournament is cancelled. Maybe it's for the best we didn't make it.
03-11-2020 09:05 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
D1_SCOUT Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 11
Joined: Aug 2018
Reputation: 0
I Root For: RICE
Location:
Post: #47
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
(03-11-2020 08:35 PM)mrbig Wrote:  Disappointing season. Hopefully no one transfers? The freshmen take a step forward, and the team can gain some consistency heading into next year.

Bet there will be transfers. At least 1 maybe 2.
03-11-2020 09:14 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Fort Bend Owl Online
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 23,952
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 288
I Root For: An easy win
Location:

The Parliament Awards
Post: #48
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
(03-11-2020 09:14 PM)D1_SCOUT Wrote:  
(03-11-2020 08:35 PM)mrbig Wrote:  Disappointing season. Hopefully no one transfers? The freshmen take a step forward, and the team can gain some consistency heading into next year.

Bet there will be transfers. At least 1 maybe 2.

The two freshman big kids might. That wouldn't surprise me at all. Others certainly could, but honestly I think the country has bigger things to worry about right now than playing time at a D1 school.
03-11-2020 09:20 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
WRCisforgotten79 Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,638
Joined: May 2007
Reputation: 36
I Root For: Rice
Location: Houston
Post: #49
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
Using Pomeroy, here are the final rankings for the past 3 seasons (this year's ranking may fluctuate a little):

2017-18 (289)
2018-19 (248)
2019-20 (199)

That's definite progress. Others will have to decide if it is sufficient.
03-11-2020 09:34 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
texowl2 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,261
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 19
I Root For:
Location:

New Orleans Bowl
Post: #50
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
I really have some optimism for next year. The transfer from Tech seems to be the real deal and the freshman from Georgia seems to be a player. If we can get to September.....
03-11-2020 09:40 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
owl at the moon Offline
Eastern Screech Owl
*

Posts: 6,347
Joined: Aug 2013
Reputation: 249
I Root For: Rice:NatlChamps
Location: 20mi from THE STAR
Post: #51
MBB conference tournament 2020
(03-11-2020 09:34 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  Using Pomeroy, here are the final rankings for the past 3 seasons (this year's ranking may fluctuate a little):

2017-18 (289)
2018-19 (248)
2019-20 (199)

That's definite progress. Others will have to decide if it is sufficient.


Thank you for posting that perspective.

Felt to me like the highs were higher this year, while the lows were just as low.

Also, for perspective those same rankings will show that CUSA was improved considerably this year, so our improvement didn’t result in improvement in CUSA relative position.
03-11-2020 09:43 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
D1_SCOUT Offline
Water Engineer
*

Posts: 11
Joined: Aug 2018
Reputation: 0
I Root For: RICE
Location:
Post: #52
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
(03-11-2020 09:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  
(03-11-2020 09:14 PM)D1_SCOUT Wrote:  
(03-11-2020 08:35 PM)mrbig Wrote:  Disappointing season. Hopefully no one transfers? The freshmen take a step forward, and the team can gain some consistency heading into next year.

Bet there will be transfers. At least 1 maybe 2.

The two freshman big kids might. That wouldn't surprise me at all. Others certainly could, but honestly I think the country has bigger things to worry about right now than playing time at a D1 school.
.

Point well taken. Just trying to point out that not playing those 2 freshmen hurts progress for year 2 and risks transfers. The 5 sophomores played a ton as freshman which helped them grow and accelerated our progress this year. Now, we lose that edge going into next year since they weren’t given the same opportunity to develop and gain valuable game experience.
03-11-2020 09:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
mrbig Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,747
Joined: Jun 2008
Reputation: 110
I Root For: Rice
Location: New Orleans
Post: #53
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
(03-11-2020 09:00 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  On the bright side the improvement in Drew has been huge.

He finished his freshman season strong, glad it carried over.
03-11-2020 10:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Kayjay Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 318
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 26
I Root For: Owls
Location:
Post: #54
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
The loss of Robert Martin for 5 games really hurt the team this year (which I was not expecting at all). I think they only won 1 game when he was not on the court. (I have not checked this so my memory may be faulty). Someone will have to step up and provide productive minutes in his place next year. I believe Quincy Olivari will more than compensate for the loss of Ako, with the possible exception of Free Throw Shooting as long as he shows progress during the off-season. I hope the team keeps Crisler/Fiedler and they both earn PT next year along with Malik Ondigo. It would be nice to have some strength down low to ease the burden on Trey and Peterson on the offensive end. Drew Peterson has to get stronger and Trey needs to do the same. Both have great upsides and Drew is becoming a real on court leader. His game and on-court leadership reminds me a bit of Adam Peakes.

There is the sobering reality that there were no Owls on the Men's CUSA all-conference teams and this team finished in 12th place out of 14 teams, despite the increase in wins and overall Pomeroy rankings. It is really too bad that the team lost last night. They would have a strategic advantage the rest of the way in the tournament because they are so used to playing in front of an empty court!
03-12-2020 08:38 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
texowl2 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,261
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 19
I Root For:
Location:

New Orleans Bowl
Post: #55
RE: MBB conference tournament 2020
(03-12-2020 08:38 AM)Kayjay Wrote:  The loss of Robert Martin for 5 games really hurt the team this year (which I was not expecting at all). I think they only won 1 game when he was not on the court. (I have not checked this so my memory may be faulty). Someone will have to step up and provide productive minutes in his place next year. I believe Quincy Olivari will more than compensate for the loss of Ako, with the possible exception of Free Throw Shooting as long as he shows progress during the off-season. I hope the team keeps Crisler/Fiedler and they both earn PT next year along with Malik Ondigo. It would be nice to have some strength down low to ease the burden on Trey and Peterson on the offensive end. Drew Peterson has to get stronger and Trey needs to do the same. Both have great upsides and Drew is becoming a real on court leader. His game and on-court leadership reminds me a bit of Adam Peakes.

There is the sobering reality that there were no Owls on the Men's CUSA all-conference teams and this team finished in 12th place out of 14 teams, despite the increase in wins and overall Pomeroy rankings. It is really too bad that the team lost last night. They would have a strategic advantage the rest of the way in the tournament because they are so used to playing in front of an empty court!

Agree with your analysis, the games without Robert were brutal. Really enjoyed watching him, such a tough nosed mentality that he brought every night....
03-12-2020 10:14 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2020 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2020 MyBB Group.