https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/2020/...0200310167

Regardless of the hysteria, I'd rather over-react than under-react.

And really, all this does is slow the exposure rate, not stop it, so that those who need it can actually get the care they need rather than all health care facilities getting flooded like what has happened in Iran and Italy, which exacerbates the problem immensely.

Cleveland has some cases, so as far as Cleveland goes, it's not an unreasonable precaution. Pretty sure they have those folks quarantined, though. As far as other regions of the state, maybe it's unnecessary. As far as the tournament, it allows attendees to spread out in the arena. What I gather from the CDC site is that infection seems to spread person-to-person; they're not seeing any evidence that the virus can survive very long on dry surfaces. (Most bugs need water to survive.) CDC: Covid19

Update: You may be hearing of some new research suggesting that the virus may be able to survive on hard surfaces for significant lengths of time. What I understand is that this research is in "preprint" meaning that it has not been peer-reviewed and has yet to be evaluated, so should not be used to guide clinical practice. (Doesn't mean it isn't factual, though.) Research

In a word. Yes


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(03-11-2020 11:08 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Cleveland has some cases, so as far as Cleveland goes, it's not an unreasonable precaution. Pretty sure they have those folks quarantined, though. As far as other regions of the state, maybe it's unnecessary. As far as the tournament, it allows attendees to spread out in the arena. What I gather from the CDC site is that infection seems to spread person-to-person; they're not seeing any evidence that the virus can survive very long on dry surfaces. Most bugs need water to survive.

CDC: Covid19

Detroit now has a couple of confirmed cases as well, and it's probably going to come out in the next few days that we've got some cases in Toledo. It's not a matter of if or when really, it's just a matter of how many cases we have.

(03-11-2020 12:04 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 11:08 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Cleveland has some cases, so as far as Cleveland goes, it's not an unreasonable precaution. Pretty sure they have those folks quarantined, though. As far as other regions of the state, maybe it's unnecessary. As far as the tournament, it allows attendees to spread out in the arena. What I gather from the CDC site is that infection seems to spread person-to-person; they're not seeing any evidence that the virus can survive very long on dry surfaces. Most bugs need water to survive.

CDC: Covid19

Detroit now has a couple of confirmed cases as well, and it's probably going to come out in the next few days that we've got some cases in Toledo. It's not a matter of if or when really, it's just a matter of how many cases we have.

Again the true mortality rate is probably close to 1%
and the majority of cases will be mild. It would seem
H2O, electrolytes, something for fever would be important to have on hand.

(03-11-2020 12:56 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 12:04 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 11:08 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Cleveland has some cases, so as far as Cleveland goes, it's not an unreasonable precaution. Pretty sure they have those folks quarantined, though. As far as other regions of the state, maybe it's unnecessary. As far as the tournament, it allows attendees to spread out in the arena. What I gather from the CDC site is that infection seems to spread person-to-person; they're not seeing any evidence that the virus can survive very long on dry surfaces. Most bugs need water to survive.

CDC: Covid19

Detroit now has a couple of confirmed cases as well, and it's probably going to come out in the next few days that we've got some cases in Toledo. It's not a matter of if or when really, it's just a matter of how many cases we have.

Again the true mortality rate is probably close to 1%
and the majority of cases will be mild. It would seem
H2O, electrolytes, something for fever would be important to have on hand.

Oh I know, I'm not worried about what will happen when I get it...all of these measures are simply to throttle the exposure rate, not lessen the total exposures over the life of the pandemic.

(03-11-2020 12:56 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 12:04 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 11:08 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Cleveland has some cases, so as far as Cleveland goes, it's not an unreasonable precaution. Pretty sure they have those folks quarantined, though. As far as other regions of the state, maybe it's unnecessary. As far as the tournament, it allows attendees to spread out in the arena. What I gather from the CDC site is that infection seems to spread person-to-person; they're not seeing any evidence that the virus can survive very long on dry surfaces. Most bugs need water to survive.

CDC: Covid19

Detroit now has a couple of confirmed cases as well, and it's probably going to come out in the next few days that we've got some cases in Toledo. It's not a matter of if or when really, it's just a matter of how many cases we have.

Again the true mortality rate is probably close to 1%
and the majority of cases will be mild. It would seem
H2O, electrolytes, something for fever would be important to have on hand.

Depends on the population. The mortality rate among healthy younger people is very low. When it spreads through a nursing home or a hospital the death rate has been as high as 20%. Iran has had members of parliament and government officials die. China has lost a lot of doctors in Wuhan. A lot of the spread depends on people being thoughtful and unselfish and not being in public with any hint of sickness. I worry because our work culture tends to encourage people (through ethos or financial need) to come to work sick. I work in a health care facility and have always been amazed by how many people come to work sick (and often spread illness). There is a certain hysteria here but the messaging to the American public has been somewhat inconsistent and slow to emerge. However, it will spread. Where I live the economy is tourism dependent and there is no effort to limit and screen arrivals from anywhere other than China, S Korea and Italy. There are no bans on any gatherings, and they continue to let cruise ships dock and disembark even though that was the source of our initial local infections. For the MAC tourney most games only have about 4-5,000 fans in a 20,000 seat arena. It would possible to use the entire facility and spread out fans. Use the event for education and outreach. Depends on how your system is set up to address public health. America has a lot of health care facilities and workers but it is a hodge podge care system with tons of folks falling between the cracks and a generational disinvestment in public health schools and programs. The overall national strategy has been sloppy and slow https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/co...elays.html

Also the disease infection rate doubles every 6 days. So 1 case on March 1 becomes 15,000 by May 31 unless you have a transformational containment strategy.

(03-11-2020 12:04 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-11-2020 11:08 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Cleveland has some cases, so as far as Cleveland goes, it's not an unreasonable precaution. Pretty sure they have those folks quarantined, though. As far as other regions of the state, maybe it's unnecessary. As far as the tournament, it allows attendees to spread out in the arena. What I gather from the CDC site is that infection seems to spread person-to-person; they're not seeing any evidence that the virus can survive very long on dry surfaces. Most bugs need water to survive.

CDC: Covid19

Detroit now has a couple of confirmed cases as well, and it's probably going to come out in the next few days that we've got some cases in Toledo. It's not a matter of if or when really, it's just a matter of how many cases we have.

Hadn't heard that. I usually lay low in late winter/early Fall due, anyway, due to it being flu season.

Last year I decided to come out from under my rock to see the last Men's BB home game so I could see the Seniors. Wish I hadn't because a couple days later I started coming down sick fast. I had to have my wife drive me over to Urgent Care because I could barely even stand to dress myself. Could hardly even sit up in the waiting room. It turned out to be Influenza-A. I'd never been so sick in my entire life. In the past I normally hadn't been getting the flu shot. I did this year and will from now on. I definitely don't want that again...or this new bug.

I figure now we are a shoo-in to win the Mac tournament and get a first round game in Cleveland because we won't be able to go.