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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
(03-11-2020 03:51 PM)uiniu57 Wrote: Politics aside, to MadDawgz who thinks this is "a sign that the media and its political motives are now disrupting our lives."
To prairiedawg who said "This all smells of yet another big media hoax to me."
To HawaiiToNIU who posted "There's going to be a good documentary on Netflix about this in one to two years."
Based on your thoughts, it's a very slim chance any of this is necessary; but is there a point in that unlikely scenario where things get so much worse and caution is proven to be the right approach, will any of you three admit you got it wrong?
It is hard to keep politics out of this when politics is now intermingled with sports. There have been NUMEROUS political posts over the past 2 days,numerous. I mean the Governor of Ohio essentially shut down the tournament. Maybe mods should create a reminder thread to everyone to keep politics out
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
That would be very strange to be at a game with so few people, even coming from a fan of NIU games with 500 in attendance. I sure hope they are at least able to play the games.
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
The NCAA announced that its men's and women's basketball tournaments will be limited to only essential staff and limited family attendance,
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/pu...thout-fans
The NCAA is giving up a tone of money, and the hotels, restaurants and others will take a beating; between 700,000 and 800,000 people per year attend the tournament's games.
I have not kept track if any other conferences other than the MAC and Big West are not permitting spectators or cancelling the tournament as the Ivy League did.
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The 3.4% is based upon the number of deaths divided by the number of positive tests received. 80% of the people who are infected have mild symptoms and do not get tested. When you do the real math, the true death rate is closer to 0.7%, which is still significantly higher than the regular flu (0.1%). This isn't politics, it's the application of logic/math.
As for the number of folks that have recovered, based upon the facts reported to the WHO, over 64,000 of the 110,000 people worldwide that have tested positive have been released. Of course you can take this for what its worth in that the numbers are mostly being reported from China which has a reputation for fuzzy math.
Instead of flinging conjecture, conspiracy or watching the hysteria on TV, there are a lot of good articles available that take a statistical approach to the pandemic, and talk about the prevention and containment strategies. I would urge everyone to take the time to educate themselves.
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
Articles? 79, you know they're just FAKE NEWS!
In all seriousness, kudos to the MAC for being proactive. They made the right decision by restricting access to the league tournament and even beat the NCAA to the punch. Now all the other dominoes will start to fall. MAC doesn't look as stupid and knee-jerky as some on this board were claiming.
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
Time to get some stock in ESPN or big advertisers for March madness.
GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
p.s. Visit NIU wins in emptyu stadiums.
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MaddDawgz02
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
(03-11-2020 04:52 PM)niu79 Wrote: The 3.4% is based upon the number of deaths divided by the number of positive tests received. 80% of the people who are infected have mild symptoms and do not get tested. When you do the real math, the true death rate is closer to 0.7%, which is still significantly higher than the regular flu (0.1%). This isn't politics, it's the application of logic/math.
As for the number of folks that have recovered, based upon the facts reported to the WHO, over 64,000 of the 110,000 people worldwide that have tested positive have been released. Of course you can take this for what its worth in that the numbers are mostly being reported from China which has a reputation for fuzzy math.
Instead of flinging conjecture, conspiracy or watching the hysteria on TV, there are a lot of good articles available that take a statistical approach to the pandemic, and talk about the prevention and containment strategies. I would urge everyone to take the time to educate themselves.
For anyone under 70, that number dwindles to probably as low as 0.2 or 0.3. So just slightly higher than the regular flu if you are under 70 or have no pre-existing condition
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
So MD, basically what you're saying and have pretty much been saying the entire thread is for anyone over 70...or 80 or 90...to hell with them?
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
(03-11-2020 05:23 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 04:52 PM)niu79 Wrote: The 3.4% is based upon the number of deaths divided by the number of positive tests received. 80% of the people who are infected have mild symptoms and do not get tested. When you do the real math, the true death rate is closer to 0.7%, which is still significantly higher than the regular flu (0.1%). This isn't politics, it's the application of logic/math.
As for the number of folks that have recovered, based upon the facts reported to the WHO, over 64,000 of the 110,000 people worldwide that have tested positive have been released. Of course you can take this for what its worth in that the numbers are mostly being reported from China which has a reputation for fuzzy math.
Instead of flinging conjecture, conspiracy or watching the hysteria on TV, there are a lot of good articles available that take a statistical approach to the pandemic, and talk about the prevention and containment strategies. I would urge everyone to take the time to educate themselves.
For anyone under 70, that number dwindles to probably as low as 0.2 or 0.3. So just slightly higher than the regular flu if you are under 70 or have no pre-existing condition
Now you're just making stuff up. And, most of us know why.
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
(03-11-2020 05:58 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: (03-11-2020 05:23 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 04:52 PM)niu79 Wrote: The 3.4% is based upon the number of deaths divided by the number of positive tests received. 80% of the people who are infected have mild symptoms and do not get tested. When you do the real math, the true death rate is closer to 0.7%, which is still significantly higher than the regular flu (0.1%). This isn't politics, it's the application of logic/math.
As for the number of folks that have recovered, based upon the facts reported to the WHO, over 64,000 of the 110,000 people worldwide that have tested positive have been released. Of course you can take this for what its worth in that the numbers are mostly being reported from China which has a reputation for fuzzy math.
Instead of flinging conjecture, conspiracy or watching the hysteria on TV, there are a lot of good articles available that take a statistical approach to the pandemic, and talk about the prevention and containment strategies. I would urge everyone to take the time to educate themselves.
For anyone under 70, that number dwindles to probably as low as 0.2 or 0.3. So just slightly higher than the regular flu if you are under 70 or have no pre-existing condition
Now you're just making stuff up. And, most of us know why.
No one knows the exact number yet, but the rate should drop as more get tested like people have mentioned. The mortality rate for people under 70 is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than over 70, that's just the fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
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MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
Aside from the serious effects to people’s health are the financial effects to businesses tied to travel, sporting events, conventions, community events, etc. The stock market is tumbling, people are getting laid off, and for those people, not only is money not coming in, but their investments have tanked. This is serious stuff.
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
And the Big 10 domino falls
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
(03-11-2020 06:06 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 05:58 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: (03-11-2020 05:23 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 04:52 PM)niu79 Wrote: The 3.4% is based upon the number of deaths divided by the number of positive tests received. 80% of the people who are infected have mild symptoms and do not get tested. When you do the real math, the true death rate is closer to 0.7%, which is still significantly higher than the regular flu (0.1%). This isn't politics, it's the application of logic/math.
As for the number of folks that have recovered, based upon the facts reported to the WHO, over 64,000 of the 110,000 people worldwide that have tested positive have been released. Of course you can take this for what its worth in that the numbers are mostly being reported from China which has a reputation for fuzzy math.
Instead of flinging conjecture, conspiracy or watching the hysteria on TV, there are a lot of good articles available that take a statistical approach to the pandemic, and talk about the prevention and containment strategies. I would urge everyone to take the time to educate themselves.
For anyone under 70, that number dwindles to probably as low as 0.2 or 0.3. So just slightly higher than the regular flu if you are under 70 or have no pre-existing condition
Now you're just making stuff up. And, most of us know why.
No one knows the exact number yet, but the rate should drop as more get tested like people have mentioned. The mortality rate for people under 70 is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than over 70, that's just the fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
How about you cite some reliable sources for this 'fact'?
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
(03-11-2020 06:28 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: (03-11-2020 06:06 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 05:58 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: (03-11-2020 05:23 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 04:52 PM)niu79 Wrote: The 3.4% is based upon the number of deaths divided by the number of positive tests received. 80% of the people who are infected have mild symptoms and do not get tested. When you do the real math, the true death rate is closer to 0.7%, which is still significantly higher than the regular flu (0.1%). This isn't politics, it's the application of logic/math.
As for the number of folks that have recovered, based upon the facts reported to the WHO, over 64,000 of the 110,000 people worldwide that have tested positive have been released. Of course you can take this for what its worth in that the numbers are mostly being reported from China which has a reputation for fuzzy math.
Instead of flinging conjecture, conspiracy or watching the hysteria on TV, there are a lot of good articles available that take a statistical approach to the pandemic, and talk about the prevention and containment strategies. I would urge everyone to take the time to educate themselves.
For anyone under 70, that number dwindles to probably as low as 0.2 or 0.3. So just slightly higher than the regular flu if you are under 70 or have no pre-existing condition
Now you're just making stuff up. And, most of us know why.
No one knows the exact number yet, but the rate should drop as more get tested like people have mentioned. The mortality rate for people under 70 is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than over 70, that's just the fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
How about you cite some reliable sources for this 'fact'?
There is no complete information available yet and like others have mentioned the rate will dome down SIGNIFICANTLY once more tests are done. The death rates are too high early on because those that are ok from it are highly under-reported. Even in these early stages the death rate drops to 0.2 or 0.3 for younger people
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavi...isk-2020-2
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To change the subject, if the NCAA tournament is going to be closed to the public I suppose they will not need any large arenas to play the games. I think the NCAA ought to consider what they do at Wimbledon, and rent a large field house with four courts and play all of the games in one location on the same day. Just set up a press table and tv cameras on each court and go from there.
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
(03-11-2020 06:44 PM)niu79 Wrote: To change the subject, if the NCAA tournament is going to be closed to the public I suppose they will not need any large arenas to play the games. I think the NCAA ought to consider what they do at Wimbledon, and rent a large field house with four courts and play all of the games in one location on the same day. Just set up a press table and tv cameras on each court and go from there.
Gus Macker style!
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
(03-11-2020 06:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 06:28 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: (03-11-2020 06:06 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 05:58 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: (03-11-2020 05:23 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: For anyone under 70, that number dwindles to probably as low as 0.2 or 0.3. So just slightly higher than the regular flu if you are under 70 or have no pre-existing condition
Now you're just making stuff up. And, most of us know why.
No one knows the exact number yet, but the rate should drop as more get tested like people have mentioned. The mortality rate for people under 70 is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than over 70, that's just the fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
How about you cite some reliable sources for this 'fact'?
There is no complete information available yet and like others have mentioned the rate will dome down SIGNIFICANTLY once more tests are done. The death rates are too high early on because those that are ok from it are highly under-reported. Even in these early stages the death rate drops to 0.2 or 0.3 for younger people
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavi...isk-2020-2
Your source does not support your statements. And, they are hardly objective on this subject. They are aimed at the financial market folk.
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
(03-11-2020 07:05 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: (03-11-2020 06:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 06:28 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: (03-11-2020 06:06 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 05:58 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: Now you're just making stuff up. And, most of us know why.
No one knows the exact number yet, but the rate should drop as more get tested like people have mentioned. The mortality rate for people under 70 is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than over 70, that's just the fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
How about you cite some reliable sources for this 'fact'?
There is no complete information available yet and like others have mentioned the rate will dome down SIGNIFICANTLY once more tests are done. The death rates are too high early on because those that are ok from it are highly under-reported. Even in these early stages the death rate drops to 0.2 or 0.3 for younger people
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavi...isk-2020-2
Your source does not support your statements. And, they are hardly objective on this subject. They are aimed at the financial market folk.
it dwindles to 0.2 to 0.3, and thats probably even over-estimated
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RE: MAC TOURNEY RESTRICTING ATTENDANCE
(03-11-2020 07:15 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 07:05 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: (03-11-2020 06:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-11-2020 06:28 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote: (03-11-2020 06:06 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: No one knows the exact number yet, but the rate should drop as more get tested like people have mentioned. The mortality rate for people under 70 is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than over 70, that's just the fact whether you choose to believe it or not.
How about you cite some reliable sources for this 'fact'?
There is no complete information available yet and like others have mentioned the rate will dome down SIGNIFICANTLY once more tests are done. The death rates are too high early on because those that are ok from it are highly under-reported. Even in these early stages the death rate drops to 0.2 or 0.3 for younger people
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavi...isk-2020-2
Your source does not support your statements. And, they are hardly objective on this subject. They are aimed at the financial market folk.
it dwindles to 0.2 to 0.3, and thats probably even over-estimated
Hey if you remember he watches Faux news.
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(03-10-2020 11:10 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: (03-10-2020 10:40 PM)dc1 Wrote: This is how you contain and stop it spreading this is just common sense!
No if you dont want anyone to ever have the flu again, keep kids out of school, ground air travel, do not hold elections, have everyone telework from home, etc. This was a complete and total over-reaction
This is probably going to happen in the next few weeks here.
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