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RE: Rice football recruiting - class of 2021
(08-04-2021 10:51 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
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(08-04-2021 10:18 AM)BSWBRice Wrote:  Folks on Twitter saying it’s a great get for Rice

When you look at the complete list of offers, it does seem like this is a very good get.

Plus, he is used to hot, muggy weather and bad traffic.

Penn, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Tulane, Troy, Jacksonville State, Rice, and ..... Iowa State.

Just because Iowa State made an offer does not make the complete list very impressive at all.

I guess we need to get somebody to turn down Alabama and Clemson to impress you.

But I impressed at both the number of offers and yes, some of the names. I see a number of schools we would not be favored over if we played them next year.

And which schools are those?
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RE: Rice football recruiting - class of 2021
(08-04-2021 04:17 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:51 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:45 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:35 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:18 AM)BSWBRice Wrote:  Folks on Twitter saying it’s a great get for Rice

When you look at the complete list of offers, it does seem like this is a very good get.

Plus, he is used to hot, muggy weather and bad traffic.

Penn, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Tulane, Troy, Jacksonville State, Rice, and ..... Iowa State.

Just because Iowa State made an offer does not make the complete list very impressive at all.

I guess we need to get somebody to turn down Alabama and Clemson to impress you.

But I impressed at both the number of offers and yes, some of the names. I see a number of schools we would not be favored over if we played them next year.

And which schools are those?

Troy, Tulane, and....Iowa State. Not sure if we would be favored over some of the Ivies, especially if it was a road game for us. No idea about Jax St.
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RE: Rice football recruiting - class of 2021
(08-04-2021 04:21 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 04:17 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:51 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:45 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:35 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  When you look at the complete list of offers, it does seem like this is a very good get.

Plus, he is used to hot, muggy weather and bad traffic.

Penn, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Tulane, Troy, Jacksonville State, Rice, and ..... Iowa State.

Just because Iowa State made an offer does not make the complete list very impressive at all.

I guess we need to get somebody to turn down Alabama and Clemson to impress you.

But I impressed at both the number of offers and yes, some of the names. I see a number of schools we would not be favored over if we played them next year.

And which schools are those?

Troy, Tulane, and....Iowa State. Not sure if we would be favored over some of the Ivies, especially if the it was an away game for us. No idea about Jax St.

I very much doubt it.
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RE: Rice football recruiting - class of 2021
(08-04-2021 04:21 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 04:21 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 04:17 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:51 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:45 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  Penn, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Tulane, Troy, Jacksonville State, Rice, and ..... Iowa State.

Just because Iowa State made an offer does not make the complete list very impressive at all.

I guess we need to get somebody to turn down Alabama and Clemson to impress you.

But I impressed at both the number of offers and yes, some of the names. I see a number of schools we would not be favored over if we played them next year.

And which schools are those?

Troy, Tulane, and....Iowa State. Not sure if we would be favored over some of the Ivies, especially if the it was an away game for us. No idea about Jax St.

I very much doubt it.

Differences of opinion are what make betting lines.

Curious to see what you and others think would be the lines against Tulane and Troy.

personally, I have high hopes for a McCaffrey-led team (or led by whoever beats out McC), but hopes do not make me pull out the wallet.
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RE: Rice football recruiting - class of 2021
(08-04-2021 10:51 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:45 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:35 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:18 AM)BSWBRice Wrote:  Folks on Twitter saying it’s a great get for Rice

When you look at the complete list of offers, it does seem like this is a very good get.

Plus, he is used to hot, muggy weather and bad traffic.

Penn, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Tulane, Troy, Jacksonville State, Rice, and ..... Iowa State.

Just because Iowa State made an offer does not make the complete list very impressive at all.

I guess we need to get somebody to turn down Alabama and Clemson to impress you.

But I impressed at both the number of offers and yes, some of the names. I see a number of schools we would not be favored over if we played them next year.

Last year's final Massey Composite rankings:

1. Alabama
3. Clemson
-----------------------------
9 Iowa State
70. Tulane
88. Troy
98. Rice
-------------------------------
Jacksonville State
Ivy League schools

My point was that the "school that did not belong" was Iowa State, and that the "others" (including Rice) comprised a meh list.
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RE: Rice football recruiting - class of 2021
(08-04-2021 05:55 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:51 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:45 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:35 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:18 AM)BSWBRice Wrote:  Folks on Twitter saying it’s a great get for Rice

When you look at the complete list of offers, it does seem like this is a very good get.

Plus, he is used to hot, muggy weather and bad traffic.

Penn, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Tulane, Troy, Jacksonville State, Rice, and ..... Iowa State.

Just because Iowa State made an offer does not make the complete list very impressive at all.

I guess we need to get somebody to turn down Alabama and Clemson to impress you.

But I impressed at both the number of offers and yes, some of the names. I see a number of schools we would not be favored over if we played them next year.

Last year's final Massey Composite rankings:

1. Alabama
3. Clemson
-----------------------------
9 Iowa State
70. Tulane
88. Troy
98. Rice
-------------------------------
Jacksonville State
Ivy League schools

My point was that the "school that did not belong" was Iowa State, and that the "others" (including Rice) comprised a meh list.

Certainly OSU was an outlier, but they DID offer, and I see no reason to think that was a mistake on their part. I also note the schools expressing interest who had not offered...yet. Cal, Georgia, UNC Penn State, TCU.

I am not sure who or how many you need to be impressed.

And I note that Troy, Tulane and ISU were all ranked above us and therefore are likely to be favored in a match up.

Anecdote, of no importance in this discussion: I attended the last game between ISU and Rice in Ames.
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RE: Rice football recruiting - class of 2021
(08-05-2021 12:57 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 05:55 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:51 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:45 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:35 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  When you look at the complete list of offers, it does seem like this is a very good get.

Plus, he is used to hot, muggy weather and bad traffic.

Penn, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Tulane, Troy, Jacksonville State, Rice, and ..... Iowa State.

Just because Iowa State made an offer does not make the complete list very impressive at all.

I guess we need to get somebody to turn down Alabama and Clemson to impress you.

But I impressed at both the number of offers and yes, some of the names. I see a number of schools we would not be favored over if we played them next year.

Last year's final Massey Composite rankings:

1. Alabama
3. Clemson
-----------------------------
9 Iowa State
70. Tulane
88. Troy
98. Rice
-------------------------------
Jacksonville State
Ivy League schools

My point was that the "school that did not belong" was Iowa State, and that the "others" (including Rice) comprised a meh list.

Certainly OSU was an outlier, but they DID offer, and I see no reason to think that was a mistake on their part. I also note the schools expressing interest who had not offered...yet. Cal, Georgia, UNC Penn State, TCU.

I am not sure who or how many you need to be impressed.

And I note that Troy, Tulane and ISU were all ranked above us and therefore are likely to be favored in a match up.

Anecdote, of no importance in this discussion: I attended the last game between ISU and Rice in Ames.

Iowa State (which I follow as my dad's alma mater :-)) is pretty well known as a program that extends a ton of offers - we're talking 350+ per class. They were one of the pioneers of the tactic, really, which is now more widespread throughout P5, especially non-elite programs. Obviously a lot of those offers are rankly speculative on the schools' parts, and eventually get pulled or otherwise become uncommittable. To put it diplomatically, a P5 offer -- especially a lone one from a high-offering school -- doesn't say what it used to.
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RE: Rice football recruiting - class of 2021
(08-05-2021 11:29 AM)illiniowl Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 12:57 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 05:55 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:51 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 10:45 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  Penn, Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Tulane, Troy, Jacksonville State, Rice, and ..... Iowa State.

Just because Iowa State made an offer does not make the complete list very impressive at all.

I guess we need to get somebody to turn down Alabama and Clemson to impress you.

But I impressed at both the number of offers and yes, some of the names. I see a number of schools we would not be favored over if we played them next year.

Last year's final Massey Composite rankings:

1. Alabama
3. Clemson
-----------------------------
9 Iowa State
70. Tulane
88. Troy
98. Rice
-------------------------------
Jacksonville State
Ivy League schools

My point was that the "school that did not belong" was Iowa State, and that the "others" (including Rice) comprised a meh list.

Certainly OSU was an outlier, but they DID offer, and I see no reason to think that was a mistake on their part. I also note the schools expressing interest who had not offered...yet. Cal, Georgia, UNC Penn State, TCU.

I am not sure who or how many you need to be impressed.

And I note that Troy, Tulane and ISU were all ranked above us and therefore are likely to be favored in a match up.

Anecdote, of no importance in this discussion: I attended the last game between ISU and Rice in Ames.

Iowa State (which I follow as my dad's alma mater :-)) is pretty well known as a program that extends a ton of offers - we're talking 350+ per class. They were one of the pioneers of the tactic, really, which is now more widespread throughout P5, especially non-elite programs. Obviously a lot of those offers are rankly speculative on the schools' parts, and eventually get pulled or otherwise become uncommittable. To put it diplomatically, a P5 offer -- especially a lone one from a high-offering school -- doesn't say what it used to.

maybe. But it says more than no offer.

My son's wife was an ISU alumnus, so when Rice was playing ISU in Ames I seized on the opportunity to visit them in Des Moines AND attend a Rice game. In the stadium, my son was sitting between me and his wife, and I asked which team he would be rooting for. He spent the entire game yelling "GO, Team".
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RE: Rice football recruiting - class of 2021
Arizona States stud punter (Turk) is transferring. His Uncle (Matt) was a longtime Texans punter and still lives out here. I see him now and then - I will try to get a sense of where he might end up next time I see him.
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RE: Rice football recruiting - class of 2021
Rice recruiting Bert Emanuel Jr? Having a greatyear at Ridge Point.
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(09-07-2021 05:46 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Rice recruiting Bert Emanuel Jr? Having a greatyear at Ridge Point.

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What you mean? Tremendous athlete at 6 2"[:lauramac:quote='Hambone10' pid='17613957' dateline='1631122526']
(09-07-2021 05:46 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Rice recruiting Bert Emanuel Jr? Having a greatyear at Ridge Point.

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What you mean? Has an offer from Army already.
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(09-07-2021 05:46 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Rice recruiting Bert Emanuel Jr? Having a greatyear at Ridge Point.

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