If he gets healthy Miami is going to really regret trading Winslow. I'm looking forward to seeing him and JP on the court with this group. Winslow has starter written all over him.

The addition of Val and Dieng has really toughened us up inside. (We will see about Porter, he should as well plus stretch the court)

It sure is nice having trades and draft picks go our way these past two seasons.

Hiring Taylor Jenkins was huge.

The last two years we have gotten the best of Miami, Phoenix, Toronto, Utah, Minnesota and Sacramento essentially via consecutive trades imo. Ohh, thanks to ATL for taking Parsons off our hands. That's like 7 trade wins in a row.

Gotten lucky in the draft with Ja and BC. That's 9 straight.

After this year (if we in fact convey to Boston) I believe we own all of our 1st rounders and most 2nd rounders.

I'm looking forward to whatever the Grizzlies choose to do this next trade season/draft day.

We are not quite there yet but its truly been a expedited rebuild. We are like one maybe two pieces and two more years away from making a real surge. We have amassed a tremendous amount of young talent the last couple of seasons..

We really seem to have a sense of forward thinking direction with every move we make.

Go Grizz!

(03-09-2020 05:48 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  If he gets healthy Miami is going to really regret trading Winslow. I'm looking forward to seeing him and JP on the court with this group. Winslow has starter written all over him.

The addition of Val and Dieng has really toughened us up inside. (We will see about Porter, he should as well plus stretch the court)

It sure is nice having trades and draft picks go our way these past two seasons.

Hiring Taylor Jenkins was huge.

The last two years we have gotten the best of Miami, Phoenix, Toronto, Denver, Minnesota and Sacramento essentially via consecutive trades imo. Ohh, thanks to ATL for taking Parsons off our hands. That's like 7 trade wins in a row.

Gotten lucky in the draft with Ja and BC. That's 9 straight.

After this year (if we in fact convey to Boston) I believe we own all of our 1st rounders and most 2nd rounders.

I'm looking forward to whatever the Grizzlies choose to do this next trade season/draft day.

We are not quite there yet but its truly been a expedited rebuild. We are like one maybe two pieces and two more years away from making a real surge. We have amassed a tremendous amount of young talent the last couple of seasons..

We really seem to have a sense of forward thinking direction with every move we make.

Go Grizz!

I've been impressed also with the long term forward vision. I'm wondering if Dion Waiters salary hits us full amount next season with him signing with Lakers.

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/memphis_grizzlies/

(03-09-2020 06:21 PM)UofMark Wrote:  

(03-09-2020 05:48 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  If he gets healthy Miami is going to really regret trading Winslow. I'm looking forward to seeing him and JP on the court with this group. Winslow has starter written all over him.

The addition of Val and Dieng has really toughened us up inside. (We will see about Porter, he should as well plus stretch the court)

It sure is nice having trades and draft picks go our way these past two seasons.

Hiring Taylor Jenkins was huge.

The last two years we have gotten the best of Miami, Phoenix, Toronto, Utah, Minnesota and Sacramento essentially via consecutive trades imo. Ohh, thanks to ATL for taking Parsons off our hands. That's like 7 trade wins in a row.

Gotten lucky in the draft with Ja and BC. That's 9 straight.

After this year (if we in fact convey to Boston) I believe we own all of our 1st rounders and most 2nd rounders.

I'm looking forward to whatever the Grizzlies choose to do this next trade season/draft day.

We are not quite there yet but its truly been a expedited rebuild. We are like one maybe two pieces and two more years away from making a real surge. We have amassed a tremendous amount of young talent the last couple of seasons..

We really seem to have a sense of forward thinking direction with every move we make.

Go Grizz!

I've been impressed also with the long term forward vision. I'm wondering if Dion Waiters salary hits us full amount next season with him signing with Lakers.

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/memphis_grizzlies/

I'm pretty sure we are on the hook for his full 12 million next season. Memphis didn't want him around our young players at all. Winslow was the target obviously.

Diengs contract is a bit top heavy but we have so many young contracts. His 18 million is probably one reason why we picked up Johntay Porter.

Melton is really the only player we should need to re sign this year and hopefully his contract won't be overly costly.

We will have all that money ( about 30 million) likely coming off the books after next season unless we decide to re sign Dieng.

Its why I hope we can pick up Reggie Perry via the draft but not sure if he will still be around, we may have to come get him like we did Brandon Clarke.

If Reggie Perry is unavailable I hope we can land Precious, Nwora or Azubuike the same way. Heck Azubuike is still only 20 years old. He may be younger than Precious.

If not Austin Wiley looks to be a possibility for our 2nd round pick, though not nearly as attractive as these other 4, still an option imo.

I do not want any player coming out of college this year, outside maybe Edwards. Unless we can get them with a second round pick or two.

Get Winslow and Porter healthy, re-sign Melton and Josh. Then fiddle around the edges.

(03-10-2020 12:28 AM)kabluey Wrote:  I do not want any player coming out of college this year, outside maybe Edwards. Unless we can get them with a second round pick or two.

Get Winslow and Porter healthy, re-sign Melton and Josh. Then fiddle around the edges.

I tend to agree but you wouldn't take Wiseman? or Obi Toppin?

We are not likely to keep Dieng beyond next season.

I agree with you about Melton and JJ but we could still use a few players that may be good values in this draft.

Heck we got Brandon Clarke for Bazely and 2nd round pick.

If we could get Reggie Perry, Nnaji, Achiwa or Mwora for say Grayson Allen and a second round pick I'd do that.

I love Diengs addition for the next year or two but I doubt he is here after that. 20 million is just too much for a back up long term

I use this site to keep up with all of the payroll adds / deletions ... Pretty good info, and allows me to download it and play around with future what if's ..

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MEM.html

(03-10-2020 11:11 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  I use this site to keep up with all of the payroll adds / deletions ... Pretty good info, and allows me to download it and play around with future what if's ..

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MEM.html

That's a pretty neat site and really shows how Kyle Anderson's contract is very poor relative to need/production and why I'd willing to package a young talent like Melton or Allen and change to get rid of SloMo and his 24% 3point shot.

We are likely stuck with KA at least through next season as Idk who would be interested in him really. It could be worse. He seems like a good teammate despite everything.

It also shows why Dieng likely is not in our long term plans.

Because Dieng and Anderson are likely not going to hang around here is exactly why I'd like to target Reggie Perry and or Jordan Nwora type players to add to this group.

The draft is always a risk. I'm glad our front office is sharp as a razor knife

(03-10-2020 11:59 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 11:11 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  I use this site to keep up with all of the payroll adds / deletions ... Pretty good info, and allows me to download it and play around with future what if's ..

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MEM.html

That's a pretty neat site and really shows how Kyle Anderson's contract is very poor relative to need/production and why I'd willing to package a young talent like Melton or Allen and change to get rid of SloMo and his 24% 3point shot.

We are likely stuck with KA at least through next season as Idk who would be interested in him really. It could be worse. He seems like a good teammate despite everything.

It also shows why Dieng likely is not in our long term plans.

Because Dieng and Anderson are likely not going to hang around here is exactly why I'd like to target Reggie Perry and or Jordan Nwora type players to add to this group.

The draft is always a risk. I'm glad our front office is sharp as a razor knife

Anderson is a solid role player playing on a mid level exception contract

(03-10-2020 04:55 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 11:59 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 11:11 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  I use this site to keep up with all of the payroll adds / deletions ... Pretty good info, and allows me to download it and play around with future what if's ..

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MEM.html

That's a pretty neat site and really shows how Kyle Anderson's contract is very poor relative to need/production and why I'd willing to package a young talent like Melton or Allen and change to get rid of SloMo and his 24% 3point shot.

We are likely stuck with KA at least through next season as Idk who would be interested in him really. It could be worse. He seems like a good teammate despite everything.

It also shows why Dieng likely is not in our long term plans.

Because Dieng and Anderson are likely not going to hang around here is exactly why I'd like to target Reggie Perry and or Jordan Nwora type players to add to this group.

The draft is always a risk. I'm glad our front office is sharp as a razor knife

Anderson is a solid role player playing on a mid level exception contract

A FOUR year max level MLE contact with a 15% trade kicker. This is not a great value contract for the Grizzlies right now. There are lots of better players playing on shorter MLE deals without the trade kicker.

Kyle is ok defensively but offensively he is average at best. Super slow release. He was shooting 21% from three very recently. Hopefully he gets better and this pays off for the Grizz on the back end because we are likely stuck with it a couple of more years, unless we are willing to package somebody with him..

He is definitely not a starter, imo, at least not on our squad. I like Dieng too but his contract is not a long term fit for us either. We had to have him for depth purposes, and I had proposed targeting him for us before the trade happened.

For the same reasons I think the Grizz get proactive in this upcoming draft and target Reggie Perry, or Azubuike along with a athletic SF.

Heck it's just an opinion, it's fun to speculate. Nothing against Slow Mo.

(03-10-2020 11:03 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 12:28 AM)kabluey Wrote:  I do not want any player coming out of college this year, outside maybe Edwards. Unless we can get them with a second round pick or two.

Get Winslow and Porter healthy, re-sign Melton and Josh. Then fiddle around the edges.

I tend to agree but you wouldn't take Wiseman? or Obi Toppin?

We are not likely to keep Dieng beyond next season.

I agree with you about Melton and JJ but we could still use a few players that may be good values in this draft.

Heck we got Brandon Clarke for Bazely and 2nd round pick.

If we could get Reggie Perry, Nnaji, Achiwa or Mwora for say Grayson Allen and a second round pick I'd do that.

I love Diengs addition for the next year or two but I doubt he is here after that. 20 million is just too much for a back up long term

If we luck into the top 4 like LA last year, sure, use the pick, I guess. But I'm not looking to buy my way (by giving up any players who are already in the ~11 man regular rotation, or future firsts) into the first round of a sh!tty draft though.

I mean, when Nicco Mannion is projected into the top 14, there are problems. That kid needs to go back to U of A. So do most of these 1st round picks.

Mannion is over rated. I've always thought that. Doesn't mean others aren't under rated.

Our 11-12 man rotation has a few weak spots that can be improved upon through the draft.

I've identified where I think that is. I guess we will see what the front office thinks. They are certainly doing a great job these last two years.

It looks like Saddiq Bey may be available with our 2nd round pick.

(03-10-2020 04:55 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 11:59 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 11:11 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  I use this site to keep up with all of the payroll adds / deletions ... Pretty good info, and allows me to download it and play around with future what if's ..

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MEM.html

That's a pretty neat site and really shows how Kyle Anderson's contract is very poor relative to need/production and why I'd willing to package a young talent like Melton or Allen and change to get rid of SloMo and his 24% 3point shot.

We are likely stuck with KA at least through next season as Idk who would be interested in him really. It could be worse. He seems like a good teammate despite everything.

It also shows why Dieng likely is not in our long term plans.

Because Dieng and Anderson are likely not going to hang around here is exactly why I'd like to target Reggie Perry and or Jordan Nwora type players to add to this group.

The draft is always a risk. I'm glad our front office is sharp as a razor knife

Anderson is a solid role player playing on a mid level exception contract

Since Pop started at the Spurs, Has there EVER been a player leave San Antonio (Besides Leonard of course) that San Antonio let leave that has been effective anywhere else

(03-27-2020 01:14 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 04:55 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 11:59 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 11:11 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  I use this site to keep up with all of the payroll adds / deletions ... Pretty good info, and allows me to download it and play around with future what if's ..

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/MEM.html

That's a pretty neat site and really shows how Kyle Anderson's contract is very poor relative to need/production and why I'd willing to package a young talent like Melton or Allen and change to get rid of SloMo and his 24% 3point shot.

We are likely stuck with KA at least through next season as Idk who would be interested in him really. It could be worse. He seems like a good teammate despite everything.

It also shows why Dieng likely is not in our long term plans.

Because Dieng and Anderson are likely not going to hang around here is exactly why I'd like to target Reggie Perry and or Jordan Nwora type players to add to this group.

The draft is always a risk. I'm glad our front office is sharp as a razor knife

Anderson is a solid role player playing on a mid level exception contract

Since Pop started at the Spurs, Has there EVER been a player leave San Antonio (Besides Leonard of course) that San Antonio let leave that has been effective anywhere else

Not many, that's for sure. Danny Green didn't blow up in Toronto, but performed better there than his last season in SA. There may be one other player recently, I can't recall the name, but I think he stayed in the Western conference. Ugh, that will kill me until I can prove such a player doesn't exist...

Edit: I think Garrett Temple and George Hill qualify. Both have been very effective post San Antonio.

Interesting article on trade possibilities

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2020/3/...t#comments

Buddy Heild is a interesting possibility, kindof expensive although his contract is declining and the trade package would most likely include Dieng, a pick and a up and comer.

We're lucky to have a great tv crew in Pranica/Knight/Fisher. Give them an 'A' here.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/rate-the...ncers.html

(04-01-2020 10:30 AM)UofMark Wrote:  We're lucky to have a great tv crew in Pranica/Knight/Fisher. Give them an 'A' here.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/rate-the...ncers.html

I voted, Pranica and Knight are both great. Fischer is a pro, just a little bit strange, not sure what it is, maybe the clothing?

(04-02-2020 04:56 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(04-01-2020 10:30 AM)UofMark Wrote:  We're lucky to have a great tv crew in Pranica/Knight/Fisher. Give them an 'A' here.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/rate-the...ncers.html

I voted, Pranica and Knight are both great. Fischer is a pro, just a little bit strange, not sure what it is, maybe the clothing?

Pranica/Knight finished 3rd. Not bad considering who finished 1/2. Say what you will about the Knicks, but Breen/Frazier are top notch as is Ian Eagle with the Nets.

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/your-201...kings.html