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ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
"In March 1845, when the Nazis abandoned Meppen, Berger was found to have guarded prisoners on a “forcible evacuation” to another camp. The evacuation was a nearly two-week trip, in which approximately 70 prisoners died, according to the court."
Please someone with twitter inform this media idiot of his error.
https://www.memphisflyer.com/NewsBlog/ar...phis-judge
Dammit man.
Edit. He already fixed it, must post here.
Bwahahahaha
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
Never heard of Friedrich Berger and have no idea of what he did or didn’t do.
He is reported by the Washington Post to be “94” years old as of today, meaning that (if true) he was born between March 1925 and March 1926. Meaning that (if true) he was probably 19 years old (maybe 18, maybe 20) at the time of the events for which he is being deported.
It is entirely possible that Friedrich Berger did things when he was 19 years old that are so horrible, he deserves to be deported now at the age of 94. But I have to admit some skepticism on that count. Being classified as a “guard” on a piece of paper doesn’t quite convince me.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
There is an actual Nazi in our neighborhood in Asheville. He was a German soldier during WW2. Spent a lot of time as a POW. Nice old man, but really gives me the heebie-jeebies.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
(03-05-2020 09:33 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: There is an actual Nazi in our neighborhood in Asheville. He was a German soldier during WW2. Spent a lot of time as a POW. Nice old man, but really gives me the heebie-jeebies.
Why should he? He might just be the next Bernie and every Millennial will fawn over him because of his "socialist" viewpoints.
Sarcasm.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
Overall, I never really got into Stephen King’s style of fiction. But there are a few exceptions, and one of them is the story “Apt Pupil”, about a high-school student in suburban Southern California (circa 1980) who realizes through his own investigation that an old man in the neighborhood is an ex-Nazi. And not some random teenager told to be a “prison guard” during the final days, but one of the people with real authority who committed murder and torture.
1996 or so, the British actor Ian McKellan signed on to the film version, and I looked forward to it. It wasn’t terrible but it sure didn’t have anywhere near the power of King’s written version.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
There are places in Argentina that only speak German due to the Nazis.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
(03-05-2020 09:53 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: Overall, I never really got into Stephen King’s style of fiction. But there are a few exceptions, and one of them is the story “Apt Pupil”, about a high-school student in suburban Southern California (circa 1980) who realizes through his own investigation that an old man in the neighborhood is an ex-Nazi. And not some random teenager told to be a “prison guard” during the final days, but one of the people with real authority who committed murder and torture.
1996 or so, the British actor Ian McKellan signed on to the film version, and I looked forward to it. It wasn’t terrible but it sure didn’t have anywhere near the power of King’s written version.
i remember the movie; it was decent. I hadn't realized it was based on a King novel. I might have to pick that one up. Thanks.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
(03-05-2020 10:02 PM)fsquid Wrote: There are places in Argentina that only speak German due to the Nazis.
Not meaning you of course but I wonder how the statue destroying PC prog filth reconcile this in their pea brains.
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-u...zil-2017-5
Lol
It's a big world out there my little Orwellian millineals. Prepare to be triggered often.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
(03-05-2020 10:03 PM)VCE Wrote: i remember the movie; it was decent. I hadn't realized it was based on a King novel. I might have to pick that one up. Thanks.
Title of the book is “Different Seasons”. It contains 4 short-stories, including Apt Pupil and the Shawshank Redemption. And 2 others less well-known.
Oh, and another thing: back in the 1980s, a group began filming the story with Ricky Schroder as the teenager and Nicol Williamson (British) as the Nazi-in-hiding. Stephen King saw some/all of the rough cuts and said it was good (which is notable, because he has not hesitated to trash some of the filmed-adaptations of his work, if he didn’t like them).
But the movie was never completed — they ran out of money and had to give up. Not clear what happened to the parts that were made.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
Would have been safe if he was an illegal alien who killed someone. Oh well.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
(03-05-2020 09:53 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: Overall, I never really got into Stephen King’s style of fiction. But there are a few exceptions, and one of them is the story “Apt Pupil”, about a high-school student in suburban Southern California (circa 1980) who realizes through his own investigation that an old man in the neighborhood is an ex-Nazi. And not some random teenager told to be a “prison guard” during the final days, but one of the people with real authority who committed murder and torture.
1996 or so, the British actor Ian McKellan signed on to the film version, and I looked forward to it. It wasn’t terrible but it sure didn’t have anywhere near the power of King’s written version.
(03-05-2020 10:22 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: (03-05-2020 10:03 PM)VCE Wrote: i remember the movie; it was decent. I hadn't realized it was based on a King novel. I might have to pick that one up. Thanks.
Title of the book is “Different Seasons”. It contains 4 short-stories, including Apt Pupil and the Shawshank Redemption. And 2 others less well-known.
under Bachmann or King?
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
(03-05-2020 10:02 PM)fsquid Wrote: There are places in Argentina that only speak German due to the Nazis.
Germans went to multiple S. American countries long before the rise of the Nazi party, which is why all of those countries were either neutral or pro Nazi Germany during WWll. Same for Italians. Parts of Brazil, Argentina, Chile are majority German, Italian ancestry.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
(03-05-2020 10:29 PM)VCE Wrote: under Bachmann or King?
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
The whole point at Nuremberg was to get those who carried out atrocities and had authority to either order them, or make them possible through the laws of the Third Reich. What kind of Pyrrhic victory is it to trundle a 94 year old man who was low ranking enough to be a guard off to Germany when obviously he had not broken any laws here or he would have been deported much sooner. This guy probably was forced into the Hitler Youth as all were, grew up thinking about his country the way Boy Scouts once did here, and at the right age was sent off to serve the Fuhrer never knowing any other way of life.
My point being that if you were a poor person in Germany at the time of the National Socialists you had no choice but to serve where they put you. If a soldier had rebelled he would have been put to death and his family seen as enemies of the state. Refusing an order therefore punished your younger brothers and sisters and your parents.
If they want to nail those responsible for the Holocaust they can't. The officers in charge were a good 15 to 20 years older than this man and they are dead.
This is what happens when you run out of boogie men to raise funds for Israel or to feed the radical lefts blood lust. If you don't have a guilty Nazi fiend you make do with whatever old man was forced to wear the uniform and perform a menial job.
It's pathetic and it makes a mockery of Wiesenthal and others going after Eichmann, Barbie, and Priebke and others.
The Nazi hierarchy all needed to face judgment. Every German alive under the regime does not!
To the radical left I say, those who show no mercy shall receive none!
We brought thousands back after the war to provide us instruction in rocket science, or other fields of endeavor. Those captured by the soviets were treated the same if they were useful. If not they never saw Germany again and lived out their lives as slave labor.
I've known men who served in the Third Reich, women who gave birth to lebensborn, and a man who flew with Erich Hartmann in the Grunherzen, and all of them were relatively poor people who came from rural Germany and were pressed into service. I knew the daughter of a Prussian General who was pressed into German service in much the same way that they went after Capitan Von Trapp. Her childhood memories were of their family being on pins and needles when Hitler, Goebbels, and Goering came to dinner. That's the only wealthy family I knew of with such an association and they were Austrian.
There is some truth to those who have defended themselves claiming they would have lost all they loved if they didn't go along. I wonder how well we would stand up under such pressure? I'm glad I've never had to find out.
I've never known an Imperial Japanese veteran. The vast majority of them fought to the death or took their own lives rather than surrender. We called their behavior barbaric. I guess the Germans who did surrender should have done the same.
My grandfather worked German POW's during WWII logging and cutting cross ties for the RR. Some of them came back to the U.S. because of the kind of life they found here and more than a few of them told my Grandfather that they had no idea that regular people could live as well as we did here. We needed few guards over them. They worked hard and were only rewarded with cigarettes and Coca-Cola. I guess today, if any were alive, they'd be in jeopardy. And for the record, my Grandfather's brother was in the third wave to hit the beach at Omaha on D-Day. The family had plenty of reason to resent the prisoners and didn't.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
(03-05-2020 10:56 PM)JRsec Wrote: The whole point at Nuremberg was to get those who carried out atrocities and had authority to either order them, or make them possible through the laws of the Third Reich. What kind of Pyrrhic victory is it to trundle a 94 year old man who was low ranking enough to be a guard off to Germany when obviously he had not broken any laws here or he would have been deported much sooner.
My point being that if you were a poor person in Germany at the time of the National Socialists you had no choice but to serve where they put you. If a soldier had rebelled he would have been put to death and his family seen as enemies of the state. Refusing an order therefore punished your younger brothers and sisters and your parents.
If they want to nail those responsible for the Holocaust they can't. The officers in charge were a good 15 to 20 years older than this man and they are dead.
This is what happens when you run out of boogie men to raise funds for Israel or to feed the radical lefts blood lust. If you don't have a guilty Nazi fiend you make do with whatever old man was forced to wear the uniform and perform a menial job.
It's pathetic and it makes a mockery of Wiesenthal and others going after Eichmann, Barbie, and Priebke and others.
The Nazi hierarchy all needed to face judgment. Every German alive under the regime does not!
To the radical left I say, those who show no mercy shall receive none!
Deporting him serves no purpose. I saw a judge in the US let an admitted killer walk free about 25 years ago. The guy was about 90. He killed a guy in a bar fight when he was about 50. Judge asked him did you kill so and so, yes I did, have you been in trouble with the law since then, no sir. Case dismissed. We have German judges in Hamilton County no nonsense.
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RE: ICE deports a Memphis Nazi
(03-05-2020 09:53 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: Overall, I never really got into Stephen King’s style of fiction. But there are a few exceptions, and one of them is the story “Apt Pupil”, about a high-school student in suburban Southern California (circa 1980) who realizes through his own investigation that an old man in the neighborhood is an ex-Nazi. And not some random teenager told to be a “prison guard” during the final days, but one of the people with real authority who committed murder and torture.
1996 or so, the British actor Ian McKellan signed on to the film version, and I looked forward to it. It wasn’t terrible but it sure didn’t have anywhere near the power of King’s written version.
Not that many screen adaptations of his did.
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