(03-10-2020 05:14 PM)griffin Wrote: (03-10-2020 02:40 PM)tiger1016 Wrote: (03-10-2020 02:02 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (03-10-2020 08:36 AM)tiger1016 Wrote: There’s enough history and this was mentioned plenty of times with examples when the suspension was handed down, standard punishment for around this dollar amount is 9 games. IMO the additional 3 games were cuz he played 3 games while he was “likely ineligible.”
It has been mentioned plenty of times, but not supported with facts plenty of times. It keeps getting mentioned because GP keeps saying it as a "fact", and so people take him at his word. When it is really not a fact. And I provided a long list of punishments varying from one-third of the season, to permanent ineligibility to support my argument that it is unknown what the punishment would have been.
I had provided a list of punishments that indicated 9 games is about the length for around 10k or so. I have no desire to dig that up.
There is not hard and fast fact but we can look at history. Even before the punishment came down, 9 games at least IMO would have been the max punishment. A few media outlets indicated that as well. It’s not unusual to conclude NCAA tacked on 3 more games for playing him 3 games while being “likely ineligible.”
9 games, we do not fight it, wiseman has a plan to pay back - that is cut in half 4 or 5 games. He would still be here.
Tell me what you think of this timeline.
Silvio De Sousa
October 2018 - Guardian alleged to have received 60k, payment of $2,500 payment made.
February 2019 - NCAA declares him ineligible for 2019 AND 2020 seasons for $2,500 payment
May 2019 - NCAA clears him for play...1 year and 7 months later
Tell me what you think of this timeline.
May 2020 - NCAA declares Wiseman eligible.
June or July 2020 - NCAA declares Wiseman still eligible, despite error
November 2020 - NCAA declares that Wiseman is probably ineligible
November 2020 - We sit Wiseman
August 2021 - On appeal, NCAA retroactively suspends Wiseman for 4 games.
100% acceptable - No suspension
100% acceptable - NCAA makes error but doesn't renege on no suspension
25% acceptable - Renege on no suspension, but announce immediately that it is 4 games
0% acceptable - Literally everything the NCAA has done since June
Guys like you confuse me. Other schools get away with so much **** that is literally 100X worse than us, and you say we deserve punishment, and you have the strange notion that the NCAA treats us fairly and would have treated us fairly in this instance.