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(03-02-2020 03:42 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
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(03-02-2020 02:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  IMO Warren will hold out as long as humanly possible - code for when she runs out of money.

I would be my stick and berries she thinks her only shot is a brokered convention and that can't happen if she drops out. She needs to stay to split up the votes.....

The more I hear from her and actually listen, I honestly think Warren is a certifiable nut. And to eliminate any doubt she gets more extreme nearly everyday.

She has to. Bernie is the leading candidate... so she and the others HAVE to get nuttier and veer more to the left to keep pace.

This is how a constitutional democracy dies.

No sir. It is how a political party dies within a constitutional Republic. Thank God for this election. It is the most sobering cold wet rag in the face of a public drunk on distraction could have received. Now we need to clean house while the memories are sharp and clear as to just how far and how pervasive the public permitted the radical left to go and become within our Republic.

This election is like the Dr. telling a patient they have a malignancy, but one which can still be removed before it becomes terminal.
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(03-02-2020 03:42 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 02:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  IMO Warren will hold out as long as humanly possible - code for when she runs out of money.

I would be my stick and berries she thinks her only shot is a brokered convention and that can't happen if she drops out. She needs to stay to split up the votes.....

The more I hear from her and actually listen, I honestly think Warren is a certifiable nut. And to eliminate any doubt she gets more extreme nearly everyday.

She has to. Bernie is the leading candidate... so she and the others HAVE to get nuttier and veer more to the left to keep pace.

This is how a constitutional democracy dies.


Yea, I sorta get that, but statements like "The trans community is the backbone of our society".pp.

Say what? What kind of strategery is that? She really think those additional handful of potential votes is worth casting off all the normal folks that find that completely nuts? That and Lieawatha has a serious problem with the truth.
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Warren raised $29 million in February. I don't understand why she is still campaigning. It's Hillary 2.0. Pretty much no one likes her except some Democratic women. I imagine she'll stay in - as I've predicted I think she'll do well in California.

The next to get out will be Bloomberg - after he decides he's burnt enough of his money. The networks, web sites that take ads and post office hope that is some time to come yet.
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(03-02-2020 02:18 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 02:06 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  I'm not shocked at Karen's departure as she had the appeal of a rock sitting at the bottom of a Minnesota lake, but I am surprised the Mayor Pete dropped out. It's obvious that the DNC (more likely Obama led) has spoken and it is time to get rid of comrade Bernie.

While you are right about the rock, she was the one who least appeared to belong in a staight jacket or the Alzheimer's wing. She occassionally made sense.
I have to agree. The times I listened to her, it wasnt often that I disagreed with what she was saying. Now, it wasnt like she was unveiling plans to change the future either. It was more like Trump is an a-hole. Well, yes he is, I agree.

I have now lost the respect I may have had for her due to supporting Biden. I dont care who/what/where/when... if you support a man who cannot make it through one speech without losing himself, or a man who doesn't remember what position he is running for, or a man who rarely even knows where he is at, and then combine all 3 men into Biden, then you are trash. There is no way, at all, under any circumstance, Biden is best for the country. At worst he will try to run things himself and his dementia will cause huge problems. At best he is nothing more than a cardboard cut-out propped up in front of the cameras so the DNC can run the country.
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(03-02-2020 02:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Now for what they don't realize. By getting out early on this doomed voyage they are unwittingly saving their political careers, at least with their home constituents. This election is likely to be a blood bath for the Democrats. Nobody is going to want to be associated with what is likely to be a route. That is political suicide.

Are you kidding me? That is THE main reason the rats are jumping of the ship. They know they have no shot and they MUST save face to keep their old gigs now.

That is also THE main reason Liawatha is staying. The people of my state will vote for her like she is an f-ing Kennedy until she dies in office.

She hasn't spent more than about 4 hours here since she was reelected back into Senate (at which time she promised she wasn't running for president). She could literally get up on stage, refer to each minority by their most vile slur, kill a child in cold blood on TV for everyone to see, cheat on her taxes and tell everyone she did it, and pretend to be a native american (oops she actually did that one) and she would still carry 80 - f-ing percent of the vote in this dumb state.
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(03-02-2020 04:10 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Warren raised $29 million in February. I don't understand why she is still campaigning. It's Hillary 2.0. Pretty much no one likes her except some Democratic women. I imagine she'll stay in - as I've predicted I think she'll do well in California.

The next to get out will be Bloomberg - after he decides he's burnt enough of his money. The networks, web sites that take ads and post office hope that is some time to come yet.

Bloomberg will go to the convention. He is running Trump attack ads in a way that gets around legal donation limits.
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Bernie is fuqued.

He should have ran for the Green Party nomination against the nutty PTA moms.
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(03-02-2020 05:36 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Bernie is fuqued.

He should have ran for the Green Party nomination against the nutty PTA moms.

He is going to have a very good day tomorrow. The only question is how good is his and is Biden's ok, mediocre or bad.
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(03-02-2020 03:34 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 01:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  So, we are back to conventional wisdom. The moderate Dems will coalesce around Biden, a candidate undeniably suffering from diminished mental capacity. As the field narrows, its looking less and less like the Democrat Primary process will be able to produce a candidate capable of winning the general election.

Wait.

I thought Sloe was running for Senate? C'mon, man!

lol..."Look, you gotta get your facts straight!"
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(03-02-2020 05:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 05:36 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Bernie is fuqued.

He should have ran for the Green Party nomination against the nutty PTA moms.

He is going to have a very good day tomorrow. The only question is how good is his and is Biden's ok, mediocre or bad.

The establishment just has to play rope a dope until the second ballot at the convention

It’s going to be a glorious dumpster fire.
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(03-02-2020 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:42 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 02:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  IMO Warren will hold out as long as humanly possible - code for when she runs out of money.

I would be my stick and berries she thinks her only shot is a brokered convention and that can't happen if she drops out. She needs to stay to split up the votes.....

The more I hear from her and actually listen, I honestly think Warren is a certifiable nut. And to eliminate any doubt she gets more extreme nearly everyday.

She has to. Bernie is the leading candidate... so she and the others HAVE to get nuttier and veer more to the left to keep pace.

This is how a constitutional democracy dies.

No sir. It is how a political party dies within a constitutional Republic. Thank God for this election. It is the most sobering cold wet rag in the face of a public drunk on distraction could have received. Now we need to clean house while the memories are sharp and clear as to just how far and how pervasive the public permitted the radical left to go and become within our Republic.

This election is like the Dr. telling a patient they have a malignancy, but one which can still be removed before it becomes terminal.

I wish I could agree with you, I really do. However, the stunning youth love for Bernie is what is concerning for the future (I'm speaking beyond election 2020 here). Conservatism had better have a post-Trump plan, or it's going to get really ugly really quick. By a plan, I mean a way of winning back the minds of young people. They're all about "give me free, give me free", but they're too stupid to realize what is happening. Yes, we're watching a major splintering and potential dismantling of the democratic party... but what is emerging from that is far more frightening to me... for 2024 and beyond. There's a very dark and dangerous monster laying in wait on the other end of this for conservatives to continually fight.
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(03-02-2020 06:21 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:42 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 02:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  IMO Warren will hold out as long as humanly possible - code for when she runs out of money.

I would be my stick and berries she thinks her only shot is a brokered convention and that can't happen if she drops out. She needs to stay to split up the votes.....

The more I hear from her and actually listen, I honestly think Warren is a certifiable nut. And to eliminate any doubt she gets more extreme nearly everyday.

She has to. Bernie is the leading candidate... so she and the others HAVE to get nuttier and veer more to the left to keep pace.

This is how a constitutional democracy dies.

No sir. It is how a political party dies within a constitutional Republic. Thank God for this election. It is the most sobering cold wet rag in the face of a public drunk on distraction could have received. Now we need to clean house while the memories are sharp and clear as to just how far and how pervasive the public permitted the radical left to go and become within our Republic.

This election is like the Dr. telling a patient they have a malignancy, but one which can still be removed before it becomes terminal.

I wish I could agree with you, I really do. However, the stunning youth love for Bernie is what is concerning for the future (I'm speaking beyond election 2020 here). Conservatism had better have a post-Trump plan, or it's going to get really ugly really quick. By a plan, I mean a way of winning back the minds of young people. They're all about "give me free, give me free", but they're too stupid to realize what is happening. Yes, we're watching a major splintering and potential dismantling of the democratic party... but what is emerging from that is far more frightening to me... for 2024 and beyond. There's a very dark and dangerous monster laying in wait on the other end of this for conservatives to continually fight.

And who is it that regularly points out that the main thing that has to be addressed for conservatives to be sure of their future is to address the matter of public education. They pump out a new graduating class of socialistically trained brains each year while the conservatives bury another class of theirs. The NEA needs to be dismantled and the States need to have education returned to their purview.

But what I'm saying here is if the stark reality of this election doesn't wake us up then yeah, we're in major crisis. If it does, which is my hope, we have a good chance to really dig deep into the communist and socialist infiltration of our society starting with education and ending with special status for fringe minority groups some of which are based on perversions.

My point is you can't kill a monster until you admit it is real, and admit it is in your home either in your closet or under your bed. Spot it, identify it, and kill it. If the public doesn't see it now, they never will. This monster has grown while hiding behind the story of McCarthyism. The problem with tail-gunner Joe is he caught some and became so enamored of the public accolades that he needed to find more so he found some who weren't or at least weren't in any significant way. He made them sympathetic and the media jumped on that and gave them all of the cover they needed. What he didn't do was root out the ones that were in FDR's administration, like Harry Dexter White, but more importantly those who had worked themselves into the Washington Bureaucracy.

I grew up with no sympathy for Reds, none. They have one aim and that is the destruction of our way of life, from the institutions of faith, to the common morality, to the destruction of capitalism and the essence of freedom. They want to replace it with a failed system artificially created to right injustices that are fictitious or overblown. They prey upon race and class differences. And it is time for us to call them on their actions at every turn.

And if Hollywood needed cleaning out in the early 50's it needs total disinfection today, along with the corporate media.
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(03-02-2020 06:21 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:42 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 02:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  IMO Warren will hold out as long as humanly possible - code for when she runs out of money.

I would be my stick and berries she thinks her only shot is a brokered convention and that can't happen if she drops out. She needs to stay to split up the votes.....

The more I hear from her and actually listen, I honestly think Warren is a certifiable nut. And to eliminate any doubt she gets more extreme nearly everyday.

She has to. Bernie is the leading candidate... so she and the others HAVE to get nuttier and veer more to the left to keep pace.

This is how a constitutional democracy dies.

No sir. It is how a political party dies within a constitutional Republic. Thank God for this election. It is the most sobering cold wet rag in the face of a public drunk on distraction could have received. Now we need to clean house while the memories are sharp and clear as to just how far and how pervasive the public permitted the radical left to go and become within our Republic.

This election is like the Dr. telling a patient they have a malignancy, but one which can still be removed before it becomes terminal.

I wish I could agree with you, I really do. However, the stunning youth love for Bernie is what is concerning for the future (I'm speaking beyond election 2020 here). Conservatism had better have a post-Trump plan, or it's going to get really ugly really quick. By a plan, I mean a way of winning back the minds of young people. They're all about "give me free, give me free", but they're too stupid to realize what is happening. Yes, we're watching a major splintering and potential dismantling of the democratic party... but what is emerging from that is far more frightening to me... for 2024 and beyond. There's a very dark and dangerous monster laying in wait on the other end of this for conservatives to continually fight.

You know maybe having a plan to get on the popular side of some issue that young people care about instead of calling them all stupid would help. Right now young people face crippling student loan debt, skyrocketing rent costs, and wages that haven't come close to keeping up with those realities. What are the conservative plans to address these things?
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(03-02-2020 06:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 06:21 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:42 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  The more I hear from her and actually listen, I honestly think Warren is a certifiable nut. And to eliminate any doubt she gets more extreme nearly everyday.

She has to. Bernie is the leading candidate... so she and the others HAVE to get nuttier and veer more to the left to keep pace.

This is how a constitutional democracy dies.

No sir. It is how a political party dies within a constitutional Republic. Thank God for this election. It is the most sobering cold wet rag in the face of a public drunk on distraction could have received. Now we need to clean house while the memories are sharp and clear as to just how far and how pervasive the public permitted the radical left to go and become within our Republic.

This election is like the Dr. telling a patient they have a malignancy, but one which can still be removed before it becomes terminal.

I wish I could agree with you, I really do. However, the stunning youth love for Bernie is what is concerning for the future (I'm speaking beyond election 2020 here). Conservatism had better have a post-Trump plan, or it's going to get really ugly really quick. By a plan, I mean a way of winning back the minds of young people. They're all about "give me free, give me free", but they're too stupid to realize what is happening. Yes, we're watching a major splintering and potential dismantling of the democratic party... but what is emerging from that is far more frightening to me... for 2024 and beyond. There's a very dark and dangerous monster laying in wait on the other end of this for conservatives to continually fight.

You know maybe having a plan to get on the popular side of some issue that young people care about instead of calling them all stupid would help. Right now young people face crippling student loan debt, skyrocketing rent costs, and wages that haven't come close to keeping up with those realities. What are the conservative plans to address these things?

Don't major in philosophy and get a real job so you can pay your bills.

You're welcome.
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(03-02-2020 06:48 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 06:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 06:21 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:42 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  She has to. Bernie is the leading candidate... so she and the others HAVE to get nuttier and veer more to the left to keep pace.

This is how a constitutional democracy dies.

No sir. It is how a political party dies within a constitutional Republic. Thank God for this election. It is the most sobering cold wet rag in the face of a public drunk on distraction could have received. Now we need to clean house while the memories are sharp and clear as to just how far and how pervasive the public permitted the radical left to go and become within our Republic.

This election is like the Dr. telling a patient they have a malignancy, but one which can still be removed before it becomes terminal.

I wish I could agree with you, I really do. However, the stunning youth love for Bernie is what is concerning for the future (I'm speaking beyond election 2020 here). Conservatism had better have a post-Trump plan, or it's going to get really ugly really quick. By a plan, I mean a way of winning back the minds of young people. They're all about "give me free, give me free", but they're too stupid to realize what is happening. Yes, we're watching a major splintering and potential dismantling of the democratic party... but what is emerging from that is far more frightening to me... for 2024 and beyond. There's a very dark and dangerous monster laying in wait on the other end of this for conservatives to continually fight.

You know maybe having a plan to get on the popular side of some issue that young people care about instead of calling them all stupid would help. Right now young people face crippling student loan debt, skyrocketing rent costs, and wages that haven't come close to keeping up with those realities. What are the conservative plans to address these things?

Don't major in philosophy and get a real job so you can pay your bills.

You're welcome.

Sounds like a great plan to win over young voters. 04-cheers
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(03-02-2020 06:21 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:42 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 02:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  IMO Warren will hold out as long as humanly possible - code for when she runs out of money.

I would be my stick and berries she thinks her only shot is a brokered convention and that can't happen if she drops out. She needs to stay to split up the votes.....

The more I hear from her and actually listen, I honestly think Warren is a certifiable nut. And to eliminate any doubt she gets more extreme nearly everyday.

She has to. Bernie is the leading candidate... so she and the others HAVE to get nuttier and veer more to the left to keep pace.

This is how a constitutional democracy dies.

No sir. It is how a political party dies within a constitutional Republic. Thank God for this election. It is the most sobering cold wet rag in the face of a public drunk on distraction could have received. Now we need to clean house while the memories are sharp and clear as to just how far and how pervasive the public permitted the radical left to go and become within our Republic.

This election is like the Dr. telling a patient they have a malignancy, but one which can still be removed before it becomes terminal.

I wish I could agree with you, I really do. However, the stunning youth love for Bernie is what is concerning for the future (I'm speaking beyond election 2020 here). Conservatism had better have a post-Trump plan, or it's going to get really ugly really quick. By a plan, I mean a way of winning back the minds of young people. They're all about "give me free, give me free", but they're too stupid to realize what is happening. Yes, we're watching a major splintering and potential dismantling of the democratic party... but what is emerging from that is far more frightening to me... for 2024 and beyond. There's a very dark and dangerous monster laying in wait on the other end of this for conservatives to continually fight.

It's heart wrenching to watch young people, once so earnest and doe eyed and enthusiastic about volunteering for the political rock star du jure promising rainbows and unicorns to all, experience a humiliating defeat. Mainly because you know it probably wasn't humiliating or crushing enough to stop them from doing it again.
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Beto O'Rourke endorsing Biden too. So much for a theory I floated about Beto being a possible VP candidate for Bernie.
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(03-02-2020 01:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  So, we are back to conventional wisdom. The moderate Dems will coalesce around Biden, a candidate undeniably suffering from diminished mental capacity. As the field narrows, its looking less and less like the Democrat Primary process will be able to produce a candidate capable of winning the general election.

Well, I don't know, a local news item just said a poll indicates Trump will lose in Texas.


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(03-02-2020 06:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 06:21 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:46 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:42 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-02-2020 03:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  The more I hear from her and actually listen, I honestly think Warren is a certifiable nut. And to eliminate any doubt she gets more extreme nearly everyday.

She has to. Bernie is the leading candidate... so she and the others HAVE to get nuttier and veer more to the left to keep pace.

This is how a constitutional democracy dies.

No sir. It is how a political party dies within a constitutional Republic. Thank God for this election. It is the most sobering cold wet rag in the face of a public drunk on distraction could have received. Now we need to clean house while the memories are sharp and clear as to just how far and how pervasive the public permitted the radical left to go and become within our Republic.

This election is like the Dr. telling a patient they have a malignancy, but one which can still be removed before it becomes terminal.

I wish I could agree with you, I really do. However, the stunning youth love for Bernie is what is concerning for the future (I'm speaking beyond election 2020 here). Conservatism had better have a post-Trump plan, or it's going to get really ugly really quick. By a plan, I mean a way of winning back the minds of young people. They're all about "give me free, give me free", but they're too stupid to realize what is happening. Yes, we're watching a major splintering and potential dismantling of the democratic party... but what is emerging from that is far more frightening to me... for 2024 and beyond. There's a very dark and dangerous monster laying in wait on the other end of this for conservatives to continually fight.

You know maybe having a plan to get on the popular side of some issue that young people care about instead of calling them all stupid would help. Right now young people face crippling student loan debt, skyrocketing rent costs, and wages that haven't come close to keeping up with those realities. What are the conservative plans to address these things?

Democrats control the cities. The conservative plan is to make cities more like Houston or Dallas with more freedom to build, holding down costs. Skyrocketing rents are a direct result of progressive policies in the cities.
As for wages, President Trump's economy is raising wages on the lower end faster than the higher end. Unemployment is lower than it has been in 50 years.
Some states are cutting costs for Jr. Colleges as a way to help people get their degrees cheaper. They are encouraging dual enrollment. They are basing college funding on getting people to graduate quicker instead of stringing students out.

They aren't about bailing out people who built up giant debt while ignoring people who sucked it up and got it paid.
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RE: Klobuchar Out Backing Biden
(03-02-2020 08:16 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Beto O'Rourke endorsing Biden too. So much for a theory I floated about Beto being a possible VP candidate for Bernie.

If I was a Bernie supporter, all these establishment types teaming up would get me to volunteer extra hours to fight against "the man."

The piling on of MSM against Trump united the Republicans behind their leader in a way I haven't seen in my lifetime, including many of us for whom he wasn't 1st or 2nd or 3rd or even 4th choice.
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