RE: AP fact check dings Democrats for false coronavirus claims
(02-28-2020 04:22 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:
(02-28-2020 04:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(02-28-2020 04:17 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: The fact that the MSM is calling a potential pandemic "a potential opening for the Democrats"... that ought to tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about the left.
I googled "potential opening for the Democrats" and found nothing.
You got a link?
From Rush's transcript:
"This is on CNN Newsroom today, John Vause talking to Democrat strategist Caroline Heldman. “The thing I keep thinking about is potentially this is a huge problem for Donald Trump.” Yep, the coronavirus. You are the people that can’t even count the votes in Iowa, and you think this a problem for Donald Trump. “At the same time, though, do Democrats have to be careful in how they use this sort of health emergency to attack the president?”
HELDMAN: I actually think this is a very good opening for Democrats. And, unfortunately, it’s become political, right? When you have Rush Limbaugh, for example, saying that the coronavirus is like the common cold and it’s being used against Donald Trump. At the end of the day, this shouldn’t be political, but Donald Trump’s response has been so backwards on this that I think it’s an opening for Democrats"
So, not the MSM, but one dem strategist? And one I've never even heard of.
Okay?
(This post was last modified: 03-02-2020 01:49 PM by Redwingtom.)
RE: AP fact check dings Democrats for false coronavirus claims
(02-28-2020 10:20 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:
(02-28-2020 08:51 PM)DavidSt Wrote:
(02-28-2020 05:00 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(02-28-2020 03:56 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: I think both comments (left and right) are meaningless... and anyone trying to make hay out of either is a fool.
Each position is easily defended 'if you look at it just right', but none is without alternative interpretation...
example... "It's going down'.... the total number of cases never goes down, but he could mean the rate of growth in the US... he could mean the mortality rate per infected person in the US... he could mean the speed of transmission.... On the other side, the left has similarly engaged in 'cuts in increases are decreases' as if budgets only ever rise and never ever fall, or that the President decides specifically what areas to cut or not... which is of course false, but it's true that he asked for and received spending cuts.
The left will be quick to tell you that he cut 100mm from Global Disease Prevention, but they will ignore that this was because the CDC 'learned a lesson from 2014 Ebola' and decided to add a now $100mm 'Infectious Disease Rapid Response Reserve fund' and a $40mm increase for 'Global disease detection and other programs'
Nowhere in the 500 page document, prepared by the director of the CDC in response to Trump/Congress' direction is China even mentioned
The number of cases is going down could also refer to “total active cases”. I think I heard one report today indicating the VP said that only one US case of coronavirus was still in the hospital.
There is a second one that got it in the same town with no connections on any trips or others who went on a trip.
RE: AP fact check dings Democrats for false coronavirus claims
(03-02-2020 10:56 PM)stinkfist Wrote:
(02-28-2020 10:20 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:
(02-28-2020 08:51 PM)DavidSt Wrote:
(02-28-2020 05:00 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(02-28-2020 03:56 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: I think both comments (left and right) are meaningless... and anyone trying to make hay out of either is a fool.
Each position is easily defended 'if you look at it just right', but none is without alternative interpretation...
example... "It's going down'.... the total number of cases never goes down, but he could mean the rate of growth in the US... he could mean the mortality rate per infected person in the US... he could mean the speed of transmission.... On the other side, the left has similarly engaged in 'cuts in increases are decreases' as if budgets only ever rise and never ever fall, or that the President decides specifically what areas to cut or not... which is of course false, but it's true that he asked for and received spending cuts.
The left will be quick to tell you that he cut 100mm from Global Disease Prevention, but they will ignore that this was because the CDC 'learned a lesson from 2014 Ebola' and decided to add a now $100mm 'Infectious Disease Rapid Response Reserve fund' and a $40mm increase for 'Global disease detection and other programs'
Nowhere in the 500 page document, prepared by the director of the CDC in response to Trump/Congress' direction is China even mentioned
The number of cases is going down could also refer to “total active cases”. I think I heard one report today indicating the VP said that only one US case of coronavirus was still in the hospital.
There is a second one that got it in the same town with no connections on any trips or others who went on a trip.
Are we talkin acid or shrooms?
#muhPenisEnvyPsilocybinVsC20H25N3OTimmyLeary
Joe Rogan is a big fan of organic hallucinogens. In my much younger days I was a huge fan of Timothy Leary's psycho-religion.
RE: AP fact check dings Democrats for false coronavirus claims
(02-28-2020 04:17 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: The fact that the MSM is calling a potential pandemic "a potential opening for the Democrats"... that ought to tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about the left.
Doesn't tell anyone with common sense what they didn't already know.
RE: AP fact check dings Democrats for false coronavirus claims
(03-04-2020 09:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:
(02-28-2020 04:17 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: The fact that the MSM is calling a potential pandemic "a potential opening for the Democrats"... that ought to tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about the left.
Doesn't tell anyone with common sense what they didn't already know.
Ummm...you did see my post above that no one in the MSM actually said this, right?
RE: AP fact check dings Democrats for false coronavirus claims
(03-05-2020 09:06 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(03-04-2020 09:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:
(02-28-2020 04:17 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: The fact that the MSM is calling a potential pandemic "a potential opening for the Democrats"... that ought to tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about the left.
Doesn't tell anyone with common sense what they didn't already know.
Ummm...you did see my post above that no one in the MSM actually said this, right?
I suspect he did, but nobody believes anything you have to say on the issue
USA Today
Trump's terrible coronavirus response hands 2020 Democrats a chance to show they can lead
LA Times
Will 2020 be the coronavirus election?
and if you watched the debate, you saw that this was an opportunity. Bloomberg thrust it into an unrelated topic and the MSM moderator told him they had an entire section devoted to it.
RE: AP fact check dings Democrats for false coronavirus claims
(03-05-2020 10:20 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:
(03-05-2020 09:06 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(03-04-2020 09:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:
(02-28-2020 04:17 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: The fact that the MSM is calling a potential pandemic "a potential opening for the Democrats"... that ought to tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about the left.
Doesn't tell anyone with common sense what they didn't already know.
Ummm...you did see my post above that no one in the MSM actually said this, right?
I suspect he did, but nobody believes anything you have to say on the issue
USA Today
Trump's terrible coronavirus response hands 2020 Democrats a chance to show they can lead
LA Times
Will 2020 be the coronavirus election?
and if you watched the debate, you saw that this was an opportunity. Bloomberg thrust it into an unrelated topic and the MSM moderator told him they had an entire section devoted to it.
No, I don't watch the primary debates...at least not with more than 2 people. And he put the words in quotes, so that's what I searched on.