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RE: Chemistry
(02-26-2020 06:06 PM)Fluke Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 06:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 05:54 PM)Fluke Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 05:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  We are 332 in minutes continuity. That right there is why there is zero chemistry on the offensive end.

You should go look up what minutes continuity is actually measuring... I don’t think it’s what you think it is.

Oh I know what it means and it doesn't make my statement any less true

Well you were just talking about rotations and then cited that stat. Yes it is actually true because we are the youngest team in d1. So for you to use “continuity” when it refers to minutes played by guys from last season to this season of course it’s going to be low. Hardly any of these guys were on the team lol. But you were obviously referring to rotations game to game.

I really wasn't referring to rotations. Though in my first post in this thread yes I mentioned how the lack of guys knowing how many minutes they are going to play is a cause for our chemistry issues.

So is the lack of experience which is why I posted the minutes continuity stat.
02-27-2020 11:03 AM
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RE: Chemistry
(02-27-2020 11:03 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 06:06 PM)Fluke Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 06:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 05:54 PM)Fluke Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 05:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  We are 332 in minutes continuity. That right there is why there is zero chemistry on the offensive end.

You should go look up what minutes continuity is actually measuring... I don’t think it’s what you think it is.

Oh I know what it means and it doesn't make my statement any less true

Well you were just talking about rotations and then cited that stat. Yes it is actually true because we are the youngest team in d1. So for you to use “continuity” when it refers to minutes played by guys from last season to this season of course it’s going to be low. Hardly any of these guys were on the team lol. But you were obviously referring to rotations game to game.

I really wasn't referring to rotations. Though in my first post in this thread yes I mentioned how the lack of guys knowing how many minutes they are going to play is a cause for our chemistry issues.

So is the lack of experience which is why I posted the minutes continuity stat.

lol
02-27-2020 11:22 AM
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(02-27-2020 10:05 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Funny. I just opened up ESPN+ and found this interesting column dropped today by Borzello.

Coaches break down Memphis' season

If you don't have ESPN+, here's a nugget:

One big thing has stood out to opposing coaches: There haven't been too many rumblings or rumors of locker room issues or any sign of chemistry problems on the court -- two things that generally happen on teams that don't live up to preseason expectations. "You haven't heard any issues," one coach said. "I was as skeptical as anyone. I felt a certain type of way. But when you take the emotion of it and just look at the job he's done, he's been pretty good, man."

"He's ridden with them. We've all seen ballyhooed freshmen dip and never return back," another coach echoed the sentiment of Hardaway. "He's got such a really endearing demeanor on the sideline. If you're a Memphis fan, he's got a young team that's a little erratic, that's got a lot of promise, but his team doesn't always play with awesome poise. But he's got a great demeanor. A calmness about him on the sideline with them. [b]If you're a true Memphis fan, you can see tangible progress. [/b]Guys are improving in front of your eyes. Guys are really, really taking big steps forward in their games."

Nice find. I see the youngest team in the NCAA without their best five-star players (Wiseman), Precious playing out of his position, and D.J. out hurt. Not having certain players changes the dynamics of the team and what they're trying to do. Example: Wiseman on offense places the opposing defenses in a pick your poison situation. Not having Precious in his natural position because of Wiseman leaves only one NBA player as of today on the floor. Believe it or not, D.J. has the potential to show he's NBA ready. These guards were not brought here to get their own shot, they were brought here to hit open threes/shots.

The vast majority of NBA players are not as skilled as you think they are. So, why would you expect Memphis guards to be? Precious is NBA bound but how skilled is he? He'll be drafted on his potential. The key is anyone of these guys could wake-up and realize who they are. The best players have the confidence that enables them to take their game to the next level. They believe in themselves and know that they can dominate in each and every game. These young players don't know it. Many players have lingering doubts about their own abilities.

Penny knows this but he continues to work with them in spite of our fan base. Support is needed now and your reward will come later. When I don't know but it will come.
02-27-2020 11:25 AM
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(02-26-2020 04:08 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  The reality is that this is a coaching problem. Unfortunately, I have to agree that we look just as lost on offense at the end of February that did at the beginning of November...

I don't see it as much as a coaching problem as I do a personnel problem. Really just 8 rotation players now with DJ out. Maurice is the 9th player but he doesn't really play as much. So of the 8 guys 3 are sophomores and 5 are freshmen so no experience to speak of.

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2 solid defensive players that don't really score: ALo and Baugh play the 4th and 5th most minutes. Lomax averages 7 ppg and Baugh 4 ppg. Baugh only attempts about 3 shots per game. Both are really good defenders and lead the team in assists so you have to give them minutes.
Offensive player that's abused on defense: With DJ out Harris is 3rd on the team in scoring. He plays better defense than last year but it really can't make up for his lack of size.
2 guys that are either hot or cold: Boogie and Lester both have had shooting slumps this year for multiple games. Boogie is starting to figure it out but Lester is still slumping.

Basically you have 2 non-scoring, great defending guards, 1 scoring guard who isn't a good defender and two other guys that are inconsistent.

Forwards (Post players)
Precious - obviously our best player but too often tries to force it. Leads the team in minutes, points, rebounds, blocks, FGA, FGM, FTA, FTM and turnovers.
Lance - very good defender but not a good rebounder mostly because he goes for the block a lot. Almost half of his shots are 3's.
Dandridge - shows a lot of promise but greener than the other guys. Good rebounder but has a tendency to foul too much and tends to throw to ball where no player is.

So with bigs there are only 3 so it's very thin which means oftentimes we have to play 4 guards or Maurice when there are injuries or foul trouble, neither of which is ideal.

When you look at the roster construct it's really not surprising that we struggle on offense.
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Watching Indiana at Purdue. 23-18 with a minute left in the first half. Lots of talk about them being NCAA teams yet they both are horrible
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(02-27-2020 07:49 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Watching Indiana at Purdue. 23-18 with a minute left in the first half. Lots of talk about them being NCAA teams yet they both are horrible

18-9 Indiana forgot to play the last minute 29-20 Purdue at the half.
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(02-27-2020 07:52 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(02-27-2020 07:49 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Watching Indiana at Purdue. 23-18 with a minute left in the first half. Lots of talk about them being NCAA teams yet they both are horrible

18-9 Indiana forgot to play the last minute 29-20 Purdue at the half.

Indiana still has 20 points with 15 minutes left in the second half.

They are not a NCAA tournament team
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RE: Chemistry
(02-27-2020 08:22 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(02-27-2020 07:52 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(02-27-2020 07:49 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Watching Indiana at Purdue. 23-18 with a minute left in the first half. Lots of talk about them being NCAA teams yet they both are horrible

18-9 Indiana forgot to play the last minute 29-20 Purdue at the half.

Indiana still has 20 points with 15 minutes left in the second half.

They are not a NCAA tournament team

It’s going to be a mediocre field overall in this year’s tournament. That’s why it’s frustrating that we are struggling to make it out of a mediocre conference in a year where the major conferences are worse than usual.
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(02-27-2020 08:47 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(02-27-2020 08:22 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(02-27-2020 07:52 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(02-27-2020 07:49 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Watching Indiana at Purdue. 23-18 with a minute left in the first half. Lots of talk about them being NCAA teams yet they both are horrible

18-9 Indiana forgot to play the last minute 29-20 Purdue at the half.

Indiana still has 20 points with 15 minutes left in the second half.

They are not a NCAA tournament team

It’s going to be a mediocre field overall in this year’s tournament. That’s why it’s frustrating that we are struggling to make it out of a mediocre conference in a year where the major conferences are worse than usual.

Very true!
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Look, it's all the coaches that Kelvin Sampson talked about
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RE: Chemistry
(02-26-2020 06:58 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 06:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 04:08 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  The reality of my opinion is that this is a coaching problem. Unfortunately, I have to agree that we look just as lost on offense at the end of February that did at the beginning of November...

FYP

So, in your opinion it is not the coach’s job to create chemistry among his roster and staff? Okay... I didn’t realize that was a controversial part of the job requirements.

You have to have chemistry to be able to play the match-up box and one they played at Cincinnati. That was incredible to watch.
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