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Did anyone else see this? $450?!!? Good god...

Good Morning Season Ticket Holders,

Drexel men’s and women’s basketball teams will soon embark on the CAA tournaments in Washington DC and Elon, NC. Tickets for both are on sale by calling the Drexel ticket office at 866-4-DREXEL. Tickets for both tournaments will be sold as entire booklets with a ticket for every session. For the men’s tournament at the Entertainment and Sports Arena, we are selling tickets in the following sections: Floor 112 ($450 for a booklet), Floor 101 ($375), 106 Row L ($250), 106 Row M ($250). There are a limited number of tickets available and they will be sold on a first come first serve basis. The women’s tournament at the Schar Center will be general admission seating and all session booklets will be sold for $40 each. Tickets can be picked up from Drexel at the DAC ticket office, at will call at the tournament, or sent via mail.

For the men’s tournament in Washington DC, the team will be staying at the Homewood Suites by Hilton in the Navy Yard. For the women’s tournament in Elon, NC, the team will be staying is staying at the Hampton Inn and Suites Burlington. More information for the men’s tournament and women’s tournament can be found on caasports.com.

Look out for events hosted by the Alumni Association when down in Washington DC for the men’s CAA Tournament. 2hrs Before each game, rally with fellow alumni and friends then head over to the Entertainment and Sports Arena – Washington, D.C.! As the Dragons advance through the tournament, check back to the Drexel Alumni website for updated reception location, date and game times. Each reception will include appetizers and first round of beer or wine. A free fan bus will be leaving from the location of the pre-game reception to take fans to the Entertainment and Sports Arena and will drop fans off after the game.

With the season coming to an end we will soon be sending out our season ticket holder gift! Please ensure that your mailing address is correct on your account so that we can send your gift to the correct address.

GO DRAGONS!,

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It is very pricey this year. I think that the CAA figures that anyone who really wants to be there will be there. They don't have that many seats to sell, so they have no incentive to offer discounted tickets to fill the seats.

The $450 pass is for courtside sideline VIP seats. The $375 pass is for baseline VIP seats. Regular lower level seats are $250 for a pass, which is also extremely pricey.

However, Drexel fans only really need to worry about the Saturday games since they probably won't play much longer. Individual tickets for Saturday are very reasonably priced at $20/$12/$10. If they manage to get past the JMU named Keener/Rowe round, then tickets are $44/$35/$22. We really don't have to worry about anything else, and I highly doubt too many Drexel fans will be purchasing all session passes.
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Definitely pricey and definitely an attempt at making as money as possible. I agree their thought must be with limited seating everything will be sold out "so why not make as much money as possible". The problem is, it won't be sold out unless W&M is involved. If they wanted to guarantee it be sold out you make the prices reasonable or at least on par with past tournaments. I personally like college basketball so if I were going I would prefer to watch all of the games, versus just Drexel games. That was true even when I was a student, though never happened since we got bounced immediately all but 1 year. I do think the tournament will be fun since so many teams are really a coin toss against each other. The basketball might not be great, but the games should be exciting. With that said single ticket sessions/games seems like the right play here.

The other issue is that the arena, while nice, the area around isn't there yet. It will be a huge turn off for fans since there is little in direct proximity to the arena. Until that area has amenities right around the arena, it will be a hard sell in that area. I think that location can work well for the CAA, but not until the rest of the plans in the area are completed. I think the timing is just too early to go to that arena and expect success. For all of the bitching about Richmond at the space ship, that arena had everything you would need right around it (Yes I know eateries/places closed far to early etc etc) but walking distance had options for bars, food and hotels. That is important.
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People bitched about Richmond but the only real issue that I had with it was that it was there EVERY year, and it gave one school a major recruiting advantage and home court advantage in the tournament. The advantage was so great that the school used that advantage to catapult out to a stronger conference and hasn't looked back. I like what CAA WBB is doing, and having it at a different venue every year, so it takes away the recruiting advantage. So far, I think it's worked well, and the host school has yet to win a championship. It's also unlikely that will happen this year.

I'm fine with DC because it's close enough that if Drexel ever makes it to the semi-finals or championship, then I can easily make a short trip down to see the game(s) and I even have a place to stay down there. Assuming that this year is a total bust, Drexel has 2 more shots down there, before they move the tournament somewhere else.
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If you have a neutral place, like DC, I don't mind the "every year" problem as I don't see it as a real problem. It did absolutely suck because of VCU, but that was not VCU's problem. It was there long before VCU was in the conference. At that time VA made sense because that is where the larger fan bases were. That matters. If VCU did not have a large fan base, nobody would have cared that it was in Richmond. Just like being in Baltimore or at the Palestra. Despite being super close to a team, if they don't have a large fan base, the advantage is highly mitigated. Despite VCU having that advantage, the fact of the matter is the conference has been won by one of the best 2 teams, even if that was not VCU. So even with the advantage they failed down there if they were not a top 2 seed. So as much as it felt unfair (and Drexel felt some of that against them for sure), the fact is during that time the best team was winning regardless what letters were on the jersey. That is why the tournament was fun and entertaining. Once the big fan bases left the CAA had no choice but to explore elsewhere.

DC always made sense, there was just never an appropriate arena until now. Back then this arena would not and should not have been considered. It fits the new CAA and the CAA won't get back to where they were unless the entire conference invests into the schools to grow their fans. This conference can still be great and a lot of fun, but none of the schools seemed very motivated in making it happen. The SoCon is the new CAA and the conference to keep your eye on. They took advantage of moving parts and invested their money smartly to grow the league. It took strong leadership. The CAA went from a good commissioner who became complacent and lazy in his later years to a guy who is out of touch and hasn't a clue. The lack of success of the CAAT is proof of this. The price point of these books is proof of this. The FLO deal is proof of this. Bad leadership is just that, it can easily take the whole ship down.

To me CAA basketball should not just be about convenience. When the CAA was good it was its own product. It was worth traveling for and watching. It did not matter where it was held. To me the "tournament is not close enough to do a day trip" is small time thinking and shows lack of caring about the league. Drexel has mostly always been this way and it is fine for a smaller league like the AE, but its also part of why we have not grown our own fans. They are so tied into just what Drexel does without caring at all about the league that bad seasons just lead to apathy. We are front runners only. Part of that is Philly culture for sure, but to me it is a shame. We should want to support them regardless. That is what good fan bases do. That is how fan bases grow and stay strong. It can't just be about the wins and losses. The tournament is supposed to be a great time to mingle with others around the league and enjoy the basketball hoping your team cuts the nets and keeps winning, but it shouldnt be revolved around only winning. That was my point and I know I disagree with JB on this topic along with others.
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(02-25-2020 08:16 AM)dan10 Wrote:  To me CAA basketball should not just be about convenience. When the CAA was good it was its own product. It was worth traveling for and watching. It did not matter where it was held. To me the "tournament is not close enough to do a day trip" is small time thinking and shows lack of caring about the league. Drexel has mostly always been this way and it is fine for a smaller league like the AE, but its also part of why we have not grown our own fans. They are so tied into just what Drexel does without caring at all about the league that bad seasons just lead to apathy. We are front runners only. Part of that is Philly culture for sure, but to me it is a shame. We should want to support them regardless. That is what good fan bases do. That is how fan bases grow and stay strong. It can't just be about the wins and losses. The tournament is supposed to be a great time to mingle with others around the league and enjoy the basketball hoping your team cuts the nets and keeps winning, but it shouldnt be revolved around only winning. That was my point and I know I disagree with JB on this topic along with others.

you're right...i'm a front running fan waiting for the team to be competitive. back in january i was set to go down for the tournament since i have off work...but we're making the 3 hour drive to binghamton instead because the lehigh valley phantoms are up there and i got tickets behind the phantoms bench for $20.

the phantoms stink too and are in 2nd from last place...so i guess it came down to value. like you said about the conference...it just isn't interesting like it used to be. i was one of the few who liked richmond because the vcu and other virginia fans brought it to life. i also miss the time i spent with friends down there...but i feel like there should be better things we can arrange together.

ultimately a great seat at a hockey game which my son would prefer anyway won out. would i be down there if we were in first place? probably. we're going to towson on sunday and i'm actually thinking about driving down to elon for the championship game if the women get that far. it has nothing to do with being a philly fan either. fans...and people in general...are like this everywhere. it's amazing how many chiefs hats i've seen lately.

bottom line...there is competition for how people spent their time off and money. drexel men's basketball hasn't done enough to earn it for me. at least i'm hanging around because just about everybody else checked out.
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(02-25-2020 08:16 AM)dan10 Wrote:  If you have a neutral place, like DC, I don't mind the "every year" problem as I don't see it as a real problem. It did absolutely suck because of VCU, but that was not VCU's problem. It was there long before VCU was in the conference. At that time VA made sense because that is where the larger fan bases were. That matters. If VCU did not have a large fan base, nobody would have cared that it was in Richmond. Just like being in Baltimore or at the Palestra. Despite being super close to a team, if they don't have a large fan base, the advantage is highly mitigated. Despite VCU having that advantage, the fact of the matter is the conference has been won by one of the best 2 teams, even if that was not VCU. So even with the advantage they failed down there if they were not a top 2 seed. So as much as it felt unfair (and Drexel felt some of that against them for sure), the fact is during that time the best team was winning regardless what letters were on the jersey. That is why the tournament was fun and entertaining. Once the big fan bases left the CAA had no choice but to explore elsewhere.

DC always made sense, there was just never an appropriate arena until now. Back then this arena would not and should not have been considered. It fits the new CAA and the CAA won't get back to where they were unless the entire conference invests into the schools to grow their fans. This conference can still be great and a lot of fun, but none of the schools seemed very motivated in making it happen. The SoCon is the new CAA and the conference to keep your eye on. They took advantage of moving parts and invested their money smartly to grow the league. It took strong leadership. The CAA went from a good commissioner who became complacent and lazy in his later years to a guy who is out of touch and hasn't a clue. The lack of success of the CAAT is proof of this. The price point of these books is proof of this. The FLO deal is proof of this. Bad leadership is just that, it can easily take the whole ship down.

To me CAA basketball should not just be about convenience. When the CAA was good it was its own product. It was worth traveling for and watching. It did not matter where it was held. To me the "tournament is not close enough to do a day trip" is small time thinking and shows lack of caring about the league. Drexel has mostly always been this way and it is fine for a smaller league like the AE, but its also part of why we have not grown our own fans. They are so tied into just what Drexel does without caring at all about the league that bad seasons just lead to apathy. We are front runners only. Part of that is Philly culture for sure, but to me it is a shame. We should want to support them regardless. That is what good fan bases do. That is how fan bases grow and stay strong. It can't just be about the wins and losses. The tournament is supposed to be a great time to mingle with others around the league and enjoy the basketball hoping your team cuts the nets and keeps winning, but it shouldnt be revolved around only winning. That was my point and I know I disagree with JB on this topic along with others.

I have no problem being selfish when it comes to my opinions. Especially since I have no control over it anyway. Since I actually do have a life outside of basketball, I would only travel to attend the CAA Tournament if it's close and Drexel is in the semi finals or championship game. Or maybe I would attend the whole thing, but only if Drexel finished 1st. If the tournament is in DC or Baltimore or New Jersey, or something, then I would attend a game or two. If it were in Charleston, or Boston, or Nome, Alaska, then I'm watching the whole thing on TV, so I really don't care where it is. If the CAA decides to hold the tournament at Villanova's or Temple or some place close, then I'm getting a tournament pass and attending the entire thing, just like I did when Drexel hosted the women's tournament.

For Women's Basketball, when Drexel hosted the tournament, I attended the entire thing. Last year, I was really busy that weekend with my daughter's show, but I still managed to head down to Delaware for the championship. This year, not only will I not be in North Carolina, I might not be able to watch the championship anyway since my daughter's school added a performance that afternoon.

So to sum it up, my opinion is that i want the games to be close or convenient to me. I really don't care what's best for the conference, since I no longer find the CAA to be a desirable conference anyway. If the games are close to me or convenient, I'll show up. If not, I'll watch on TV.
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Agreed that Drexel and the CAA has to earn people's time and money and that has not happened. Absolutely agree we all have choices on what to do and how to do it. I also don't disagree on your choice of which to go to. I was not trying to call you guys out as much as making a point. I think we all agree the conference is not as interesting as it used to be and nobody is doing anything about it, which only negatively effects everyone. I have always argued that local games with that supposed interest was a bunch of malarkey. Local games will interest some but it has to go beyond that. Same with the conference games. Spread out without any large interesting fan bases hurts the whole product. I could totally see UNCW and CofC finding another home that fits them better. The conference definitely has an identity problem and nobody seems to care at the CAA offices.

Hiroshima, you have been around a long time and been way patient like most of us. We all want a competitive product. That was not what I was meaning in talking about front running fans. I was making the comment as a general one about the fans that go to Drexel, but Philly in general. When that team was good it was awesome, but when the going gets tough, there is nobody(few) around. So my comments there have to do with Philly in general. With so many options, front running or fair weather fans are everywhere, from the time spent in Philly, it is quite obvious its a common theme. Sure the eagles have die hard fans, but the championship season or when the Phillies won, the whole city changed and its unreal how many "fans" showed up. That was just something I noticed as a non-Philly person who went there for 5 years. If "team A" isnt doing so well they focus on another team until one is good. Building a brand helps to avoid that issue (although you will always gain fans during wins and lose those fans with losses).

With that said, of course its easier to follow a winner. Our women deserve every bit of following they have and some. I really hope for the program, for Denise, for Bailey they get that chance to dance. I hope they finish strong and dont have any let downs. I know for a fact if they make it, I will be there regardless of where they send them.
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(02-25-2020 12:30 PM)dan10 Wrote:  That was not what I was meaning in talking about front running fans.

but you're right that i am front running with drexel...and i don't feel good about it. i don't want it to be that way.
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(02-25-2020 12:46 PM)hiroshimacarp Wrote:  
(02-25-2020 12:30 PM)dan10 Wrote:  That was not what I was meaning in talking about front running fans.

but you're right that i am front running with drexel...and i don't feel good about it. i don't want it to be that way.

Fair but Drexel has forced that upon its fans. Apathy sets in with everyone at some point. The problem is the fans from your time as well as mine gave way more towards Drexel being great than Drexel ever gave itself. Fans had higher expectations for the program than the ones in charge. Fans had greater vision than those in charge. Here we are now 15 years later as a group in the same spot when it all started, with many of the same people in charge getting the same results. Apathy doesnt lose, but it will conquer if allowed to show its face. Drexel allowed it to show its face. The end result was only a matter of time. Quite honestly, they are lucky any of that group or this group even cares at all at this point. They are lucky the AAD group cares enough to try and change the path. The problem is the fans care too much and are seemingly preaching to ones who dont care.

It is why Spiker was visibly frustrated about the attendance against Towson and then commented on it again at W&M. So many people want better. The problem is the people in charge dont.
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(02-25-2020 12:30 PM)dan10 Wrote:  So my comments there have to do with Philly in general. With so many options, front running or fair weather fans are everywhere, from the time spent in Philly, it is quite obvious its a common theme. Sure the eagles have die hard fans, but the championship season or when the Phillies won, the whole city changed and its unreal how many "fans" showed up. That was just something I noticed as a non-Philly person who went there for 5 years. If "team A" isnt doing so well they focus on another team until one is good. Building a brand helps to avoid that issue (although you will always gain fans during wins and lose those fans with losses).

Is that really a Philly-specific problem? The Flyers have had pretty consistent attendance. The Sixers have been decent aside from their complete bottomed-out years. The Phillies were 10th in the league in attendance last year despite only going 81-81. And the Union get about 17k per game, which is not insignificant. Philly may not be the best in the world at supporting bottom-feeders in person, but they're far from the worst.

Honestly, having been a Philly fan my entire life, trying to compare collegiate sports to the pro sports is pretty pointless. In the Philly psyche, there aren't separate spaces for each college team, but rather a nebulous space for "college basketball", with which each individual divvies up their attention how they want to. That usually means being a fan of 1 or maybe 2 Philly teams, and following the rest tangentially. With Villanova and Temple around, there is never going to be very much room for Drexel to make inroads on that front, and that is especially true if the university makes no effort to force fans' hands, as is happening now.
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