If the city of Memphis can find a way to attach constant development from Wolfchase to downtown, then the city will be popping. I do believe Memphis drastically needs a TopGolf. Where? I don't know specifically. I wouldn't mind it to be in Sycamore and Appling, but I would also like for it to be around downtown.
Part of the reason why Nashville is booming economically, is because Memphis didn't do anything to boost themselves. I would also like to find a more economic boost near the U of M. I think it'll be great for the city, and potentially help the U of M lure even more students into the University. I wish them the best.

(02-24-2020 11:33 PM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  If the city of Memphis can find a way to attach constant development from Wolfchase to downtown, then the city will be popping. I do believe Memphis drastically needs a TopGolf. Where? I don't know specifically. I wouldn't mind it to be in Sycamore and Appling, but I would also like for it to be around downtown.

I heard Top Golf looked into purchasing the old CA building for a location in town. Personally think that would be a fantastic location.

I live in Nashville and the growth here has been incredible, but I was amazed of what was going on in Memphis when I was last there in May. I always stay in Midtown and it was packed as was downtown. The vibrancy was awesome to see.


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(02-25-2020 03:02 AM)tigerbologna Wrote:  

(02-24-2020 11:33 PM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  If the city of Memphis can find a way to attach constant development from Wolfchase to downtown, then the city will be popping. I do believe Memphis drastically needs a TopGolf. Where? I don't know specifically. I wouldn't mind it to be in Sycamore and Appling, but I would also like for it to be around downtown.

I heard Top Golf looked into purchasing the old CA building for a location in town. Personally think that would be a fantastic location.

I'd prefer an education purpose for that location, maybe a U of M expansion into downtown if 1) they are interested; and 2) an area around the law school is not available as easily. If not U of M, then other area higher education institutions. Maybe a cross-institutional facility. If not an educational purpose, then maybe a cultural one. If not, then, among commercial purposes, Topgolf would be at the top of the list.

The location itself should be attractive, as the Edge is beginning to blossom, as a tie between the Medical District and Union Row/Downtown. I'm not sure if Topgolf's demographics would be better served out east, by Bartlett/Shelby Farms or maybe the redeveloping Carrefour.

But if they want it, and they are the highest bidder, hey, go for it.

(02-21-2020 01:01 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-21-2020 12:06 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  

(02-19-2020 10:24 PM)Trapper John Wrote:  it looks great, but Texas Live is next to the Rangers' Stadium, like Ballpark Village is next to Busch Stadium in St. Louis. There needs to be a major event center involved that draws millions of people a year to the immediate area. Phase 1 needs to be the full development of the planned youth sports complex. If it is successful and the demand is there to then support a Phase 2 like a Texas Live, then build away - hotels, restaurants and retail will line up to be a part of it.

Agree ... I think this should be somewhere between Autozone Park and FedEx forum ... That way you draw from Redbird games, 901FC, and even Grizzlies or Tiger games ... I just don't see this concept working at the Fairgrounds project ...

I don't either, honestly. The only way that it works is if it is less bar oriented than Texas Live (still serving, of course) and more kid-friendly, a'la Railgarten, Loflin Yard, places like that. Not that we didn't have kids at Texas Live, but it's definitely a place that wasn't built with them in mind.

The main Fairgrounds plan surrounds youth sports, so if you go this route, it needs to be less "entertainment district" and have options for the families to go to and hang out, grab food, & let the parents have a few beers & relax.

Our son's soccer team played in a tournament in St. Louis last year, and we stayed right at Westport Plaza. They had things like a pizza place, taco shop, starbucks, smoothie king, etc., but then on top of that they also had a sushi restaurant, steakhouse, and an indoor gaming lounge with food, drinks, and indoor games like ping-pong, shuffleboard, pop a shot, indoor bocce, karaoke on 2nd floor, lounge areas & tons of screens to watch games. Places like that would work for the youth events, and be a big hit after FB games, IMO.

https://westportsocial-stl.com/

This is a great comparison/proposal. Westport is exactly what you need there. Westport is a mix of office/hotel and most prominently, food service/bars/etc.. Footprint is manageable as is the entry/egress. Parts can be interchangeable, and with mid-town access as opposed to downtown, you are more apt to gain a foothold with daytime traffic from all areas of the city as well as the nightlife. I have been to Westport numerous times for lunch, and that place is always packed with hotel and office folks for lunch.

(02-25-2020 11:20 AM)kabluey Wrote:  

(02-25-2020 03:02 AM)tigerbologna Wrote:  

(02-24-2020 11:33 PM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  If the city of Memphis can find a way to attach constant development from Wolfchase to downtown, then the city will be popping. I do believe Memphis drastically needs a TopGolf. Where? I don't know specifically. I wouldn't mind it to be in Sycamore and Appling, but I would also like for it to be around downtown.

I heard Top Golf looked into purchasing the old CA building for a location in town. Personally think that would be a fantastic location.

I'd prefer an education purpose for that location, maybe a U of M expansion into downtown if 1) they are interested; and 2) an area around the law school is not available as easily. If not U of M, then other area higher education institutions. Maybe a cross-institutional facility. If not an educational purpose, then maybe a cultural one. If not, then, among commercial purposes, Topgolf would be at the top of the list.

The location itself should be attractive, as the Edge is beginning to blossom, as a tie between the Medical District and Union Row/Downtown. I'm not sure if Topgolf's demographics would be better served out east, by Bartlett/Shelby Farms or maybe the redeveloping Carrefour.

But if they want it, and they are the highest bidder, hey, go for it.

I would absolutely hate it if that building were completely taken down for a TopGolf, but honestly I could see them using it - lose the windows for tiers, etc. The only catch is something that catches the balls to keep them off Union.

(Full disclosure - I've never been to a Top Golf, but my husband went to the one in Vegas & it looked like a tiered structure for the different bays.)

(02-25-2020 08:05 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  I live in Nashville and the growth here has been incredible, but I was amazed of what was going on in Memphis when I was last there in May. I always stay in Midtown and it was packed as was downtown. The vibrancy was awesome to see.

Everytime I drive downtown as a person who lives about 10 minutes away, I'm floored at how much changes each time.

(02-25-2020 12:37 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-25-2020 11:20 AM)kabluey Wrote:  

(02-25-2020 03:02 AM)tigerbologna Wrote:  

(02-24-2020 11:33 PM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  If the city of Memphis can find a way to attach constant development from Wolfchase to downtown, then the city will be popping. I do believe Memphis drastically needs a TopGolf. Where? I don't know specifically. I wouldn't mind it to be in Sycamore and Appling, but I would also like for it to be around downtown.

I heard Top Golf looked into purchasing the old CA building for a location in town. Personally think that would be a fantastic location.

I'd prefer an education purpose for that location, maybe a U of M expansion into downtown if 1) they are interested; and 2) an area around the law school is not available as easily. If not U of M, then other area higher education institutions. Maybe a cross-institutional facility. If not an educational purpose, then maybe a cultural one. If not, then, among commercial purposes, Topgolf would be at the top of the list.

The location itself should be attractive, as the Edge is beginning to blossom, as a tie between the Medical District and Union Row/Downtown. I'm not sure if Topgolf's demographics would be better served out east, by Bartlett/Shelby Farms or maybe the redeveloping Carrefour.

But if they want it, and they are the highest bidder, hey, go for it.

I would absolutely hate it if that building were completely taken down for a TopGolf, but honestly I could see them using it - lose the windows for tiers, etc. The only catch is something that catches the balls to keep them off Union.

(Full disclosure - I've never been to a Top Golf, but my husband went to the one in Vegas & it looked like a tiered structure for the different bays.)

The former CEO of TopGolf is a UofM alum.

They were in town a year or so ago. They are interested in Memphis and want downtown. They did look at the CA building. Also looked at some property in Collierville - but they really want downtown.

(02-25-2020 04:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-25-2020 12:37 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-25-2020 11:20 AM)kabluey Wrote:  

(02-25-2020 03:02 AM)tigerbologna Wrote:  

(02-24-2020 11:33 PM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  If the city of Memphis can find a way to attach constant development from Wolfchase to downtown, then the city will be popping. I do believe Memphis drastically needs a TopGolf. Where? I don't know specifically. I wouldn't mind it to be in Sycamore and Appling, but I would also like for it to be around downtown.

I heard Top Golf looked into purchasing the old CA building for a location in town. Personally think that would be a fantastic location.

I'd prefer an education purpose for that location, maybe a U of M expansion into downtown if 1) they are interested; and 2) an area around the law school is not available as easily. If not U of M, then other area higher education institutions. Maybe a cross-institutional facility. If not an educational purpose, then maybe a cultural one. If not, then, among commercial purposes, Topgolf would be at the top of the list.

The location itself should be attractive, as the Edge is beginning to blossom, as a tie between the Medical District and Union Row/Downtown. I'm not sure if Topgolf's demographics would be better served out east, by Bartlett/Shelby Farms or maybe the redeveloping Carrefour.

But if they want it, and they are the highest bidder, hey, go for it.

I would absolutely hate it if that building were completely taken down for a TopGolf, but honestly I could see them using it - lose the windows for tiers, etc. The only catch is something that catches the balls to keep them off Union.

(Full disclosure - I've never been to a Top Golf, but my husband went to the one in Vegas & it looked like a tiered structure for the different bays.)

The former CEO of TopGolf is a UofM alum.

They were in town a year or so ago. They are interested in Memphis and want downtown. They did look at the CA building. Also looked at some property in Collierville - but they really want downtown.

I know plenty of people wished he were still working at his job here in Memphis before he eventually made his way to Top Golf. Great leader and business mind.

The CA building has two humongous printing presses on the production side. It would cost a fortune to dismantle and remove those. On the business side (the mirror windows side) that might be an easier remodel but smaller in size.

(02-20-2020 04:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:54 PM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 07:22 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Going to put a Memphis city official in charge of the development, that's all you need to know about its potential for success... SMH.

no surprise that comment comes from that username

Born, raised & lived in Memphis for years. I've seen first hand the poor city management in Memphis. You disagree?

A lawyer told me that it's 3 rich families that control everything in the city and one of those families live in Mississippi. It's believable since it seems like this city stuck in quick sand when it comes to development.

A group flew drones through the MSC this week to examine the possibility of holding drone races there.

(02-25-2020 11:41 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  A group flew drones through the MSC this week to examine the possibility of holding drone races there.

Talk about economic impact....

(02-25-2020 11:41 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  A group flew drones through the MSC this week to examine the possibility of holding drone races there.

Do they turn right in drone racing or just left?

(02-25-2020 10:10 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:59 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:54 PM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 07:22 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Going to put a Memphis city official in charge of the development, that's all you need to know about its potential for success... SMH.

no surprise that comment comes from that username

Born, raised & lived in Memphis for years. I've seen first hand the poor city management in Memphis. You disagree?

A lawyer told me that it's 3 rich families that control everything in the city and one of those families live in Mississippi. It's believable since it seems like this city stuck in quick sand when it comes to development.

I'll take this so-called "quicksand" of the past decade or two, vs the actual quicksand of the previous thirty years.

Some people just have nothing nice to say about Memphis.

I'll gladly live inside 240 for the rest of my life.

In the last 30 years we have had people in city hall who cared more about stuffing their own pockets than doing what is best for the city. The city was sold to friends of the administration for profit and kick backs.

(02-26-2020 10:47 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  In the last 30 years we have had people in city hall who cared more about stuffing their own pockets than doing what is best for the city. The city was sold to friends of the administration for profit and kick backs.

You sure have a positive disposition.

(02-26-2020 10:47 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  In the last 30 years we have had people in city hall who cared more about stuffing their own pockets than doing what is best for the city. The city was sold to friends of the administration for profit and kick backs.

And this is different from other cities how?

Having politicians who are greedy AND unethical AND clever enough to get away with it is somehow unique to Memphis?

(02-27-2020 12:42 AM)CRM114 Wrote:  

(02-26-2020 10:47 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  In the last 30 years we have had people in city hall who cared more about stuffing their own pockets than doing what is best for the city. The city was sold to friends of the administration for profit and kick backs.

And this is different from other cities how?

Having politicians who are greedy AND unethical AND clever enough to get away with it is somehow unique to Memphis?

30 years ago we were not annually in the top 5 of crime and murders in the nation.