(02-16-2020 06:16 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 05:53 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 05:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I really would like to know who would be an example for you as a politician truly "in the center." If you don't have a name then just kinda what you would define as centrist positions?

Joe Manchin and Susan Collins are centrists. The only reason you think Joe Biden is a centrist is because you are a blind supporter of a millionaire "socialist". Hopefully you've donated to his campaign early and often so he can buy another house.

Those would be my two. There used to be a lot of them, not any more.

Murkowski and Sinema maybe? The entire dem field is filled with leftists who want to take away our freedoms.

It is also impossible to have a social welfare state (which we have) without immigration controls. I am otherwise libertarian, but the inability of libertarians to understand this concept baffles me.

(02-16-2020 07:36 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Bill's biggest "accomplishment" was just not screwing the economy up too much--he essentially rode the dot com boom/bubble along while he played in the Oval office. He never really stood for much but came across (at least at first) as a relatively likable doofus you'd have a beer with--that is until you got to know him. he was only a good president in comparison to other mediocre to poor presidents. He had no ounce of greatness in him, and as log as he got his name in the history books he really didn't seem to care to.

But Bill had sense enough to do that. Bernie or Liz would have had a fit because somebody was making a profit, and would have screwed it all up to spite them.

(02-16-2020 05:53 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 05:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 04:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 11:41 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  These centrist candidates think they can pander left and get people. It's not gonna work. All it does it prove neither the left nor the center can actually trust you. They are starting to get internal numbers that show them holy crap Bernie isn't just strong because of "Bernie Bro's" but because he has a broad base of support among people of every race. He's crushing polling among Latino voters. The great black firewall for Biden is eroding before our eyes. The ploys and attempts to stop what's coming are getting more pathetic and transparent by the day.

Anyone who thinks Biden is a centrist is a moron.

I really would like to know who would be an example for you as a politician truly "in the center." If you don't have a name then just kinda what you would define as centrist positions?

Joe Manchin and Susan Collins are centrists.

Ok I'm gonna ignore the rest of your response but thanks for an honest opinion of where you view the center as.

(02-17-2020 11:58 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 05:53 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 05:45 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 04:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 11:41 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  These centrist candidates think they can pander left and get people. It's not gonna work. All it does it prove neither the left nor the center can actually trust you. They are starting to get internal numbers that show them holy crap Bernie isn't just strong because of "Bernie Bro's" but because he has a broad base of support among people of every race. He's crushing polling among Latino voters. The great black firewall for Biden is eroding before our eyes. The ploys and attempts to stop what's coming are getting more pathetic and transparent by the day.

Anyone who thinks Biden is a centrist is a moron.

I really would like to know who would be an example for you as a politician truly "in the center." If you don't have a name then just kinda what you would define as centrist positions?

Joe Manchin and Susan Collins are centrists.

Ok I'm gonna ignore the rest of your response but thanks for an honest opinion of where you view the center as.

Not unexpected from someone who ignores economic reality and supports Bernie.