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(03-24-2020 06:01 PM)Wedge Wrote:  MLB would have to add more roster spots if each team is going to play a doubleheader every week, let alone more than one a week. Every team is going to want to have 3 catchers on the roster, and an extra pitcher or two, and maybe more position players as well.

If you're a manager and you're playing a game on Friday night, a doubleheader on Saturday, and a game on Sunday afternoon, you're going to want enough players so that no one plays more than 3 of those 4 games.

This coming season notwithstanding(as the circumstances are different), I think if you designate Monday as a travel day for everyone then you create a lot of benefits.

1) Everybody gets a guaranteed day off at least once a week.

2) You don't have to play Sunday afternoon. You can push the games until later in the day or that night. No need to rush the schedule because you don't have to get out of town so quickly.

3) A Saturday double-header would be troublesome to some degree, yes, but I think you can solve that by designating this day as the one with more free movement between the majors and minors. You need an extra starter? Bring up whoever you like for one of the games this day and it won't count against any restrictions on call-ups. Same deal with catchers. If the coaches feel they need another spot or two then maybe you give them that too.

I think some of that is mitigated with the 26th roster spot. That and if the NL moves to the DH as expected then that's a little less wear and tear as well.

But I think this would be a good opportunity to test out the youngsters in limited environments. Give them a shot here and there without so much pressure. If you're calling them up for more than one game then, yes, it counts against the number of call-ups before you have to promote them permanently or let them move on. If you're only doing it for the doubleheader day then relax the rules.
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one thing to remember for DH, you get a 27th(29th in September) player automatically in any DH situation.
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didn't see it put here, but the Mets get another injury- Thor out for the season with TJ surgery.
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couple of big tweets from Rosenthal today-


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Today would have been Opening Day. We'll see how long we have to wait, but looks like it's gonna be a while.
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Manfred was on SVP's show last night and offered, as a best case, getting teams back together sometime in May. That would put the start of the regular season around the end of May in his best case scenario.
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I'm guessing Father's Day
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Yup, here we go....


linkity-blinkity: AP sources: MLB could skip draft; service time big issue

Quote:The union has taken the position that a full season of service should be credited even if no games are played, one of the people said.

The sides also are discussing whether MLB would advance money to players, who get paid only during the regular season. The Uniform Player's Contract has a provision allowing the baseball commissioner to suspend the deal during any national emergency when Major League Baseball is not played.

How much money would be advanced and which players the money would go to are also a part of the negotiation. Advances could go to the entire 40-man roster or a subset. Getting money to players with minor league contracts, who are not covered by the union, is likely to be decided later by MLB.

These are the times I laugh my head off at these guys. Americans, many of whom help pay those salaries, are hurting way worse right now. Those guys should be happy they have a cushy job to go back to. Now, minor leaguers have at least a better case to complain.
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Deal was reached....

Players get 170m advance on their 2020 salaries(but if season is not played, they get nothing more and can't sue to get money)
players get full season if any games are played and they're on the active roster the entire season. Pro-rated otherwise
If no games played- players get same service time they got last year
Draft 5 rounds
arbitration rules will be adjusted so players are not penalized for putting up counting stats that don't stack up to past comparables.
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(03-26-2020 11:07 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Yup, here we go....


linkity-blinkity: AP sources: MLB could skip draft; service time big issue

Quote:The union has taken the position that a full season of service should be credited even if no games are played, one of the people said.

The sides also are discussing whether MLB would advance money to players, who get paid only during the regular season. The Uniform Player's Contract has a provision allowing the baseball commissioner to suspend the deal during any national emergency when Major League Baseball is not played.

How much money would be advanced and which players the money would go to are also a part of the negotiation. Advances could go to the entire 40-man roster or a subset. Getting money to players with minor league contracts, who are not covered by the union, is likely to be decided later by MLB.

These are the times I laugh my head off at these guys. Americans, many of whom help pay those salaries, are hurting way worse right now. Those guys should be happy they have a cushy job to go back to. Now, minor leaguers have at least a better case to complain.

Also, you MIGHT just want to link to a current article, and not one done March 18 or 8 days ago.....
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Discussion bandied about starting the season (when ready) in Arizona.

Plan 2-3 week spring training in Arizona and Florida

All teams then go to Arizona.

The Phoenix area has 10 First class Spring Training Facilities, plus Phoenix Muni (former A's, now ASU) and Chase Field.

Could play 11 games at the smaller parks, 2 or 3 games a day at Chase.

Much easier travel than Florida.

Or, have NL in Arizona, AL in Florida.

Would be done for month + with no fans.
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If this is the idea, forget it...

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox...020-season
Quote:Players would need to be quarantined in league-controlled hotels, tested constantly, and shuttled to and from the park. For such a plan to work, they'd have to sacrifice their most basic freedoms of movement, because a single failed test would grind the season to a halt while at least one team spends two weeks in isolation, potentially triggering a cascade of shutdowns, too (the mere possibility of which prompted the NBA to suspend its season, after all).

Convincing the union to sign off on such draconian restrictions won't be easy, but the alternative may very well be no baseball.

The games would be made-for-TV events without fans. If each ballpark hosted one or two games a day, a regular schedule could be played.

The challenges would be enormous. Do three teams share one clubhouse? Could ballpark and hotel staff be expected to live in isolation as well to avoid infection? How long could players live like prisoners? Will testing capacity ramp up enough to accommodate an entire league? Are the results even reliable? And how would teams keep their facilities germ-free if they're in use all day?

This writer doesn't even mention that playing two games in a day at a spring training park would require playing at least one during the day. The average high temperature in Phoenix on June 1st is 100 degrees, and it goes up by a few more degrees as the month goes on. Doesn't get better in July, either.
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(04-03-2020 06:03 PM)Wedge Wrote:  If this is the idea, forget it...

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox...020-season
Quote:Players would need to be quarantined in league-controlled hotels, tested constantly, and shuttled to and from the park. For such a plan to work, they'd have to sacrifice their most basic freedoms of movement, because a single failed test would grind the season to a halt while at least one team spends two weeks in isolation, potentially triggering a cascade of shutdowns, too (the mere possibility of which prompted the NBA to suspend its season, after all).

Convincing the union to sign off on such draconian restrictions won't be easy, but the alternative may very well be no baseball.

The games would be made-for-TV events without fans. If each ballpark hosted one or two games a day, a regular schedule could be played.

The challenges would be enormous. Do three teams share one clubhouse? Could ballpark and hotel staff be expected to live in isolation as well to avoid infection? How long could players live like prisoners? Will testing capacity ramp up enough to accommodate an entire league? Are the results even reliable? And how would teams keep their facilities germ-free if they're in use all day?

This writer doesn't even mention that playing two games in a day at a spring training park would require playing at least one during the day. The average high temperature in Phoenix on June 1st is 100 degrees, and it goes up by a few more degrees as the month goes on. Doesn't get better in July, either.

There would be no reason to play games during the day at Spring Training facilities.

There are 11 suitable parks (12 if you add GCU) in the Phoenix Metro area. That is 22 or 24.

Chase Field can host double headers, since it is indoors. That gives 4 more teams.

Off days, etc. And if you really wanted 15 fields, Tucson is only 90 minutes away and has two suitable stadiums.

No need to play any day games other than at Chase
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(Yesterday 05:34 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(04-03-2020 06:03 PM)Wedge Wrote:  If this is the idea, forget it...

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox...020-season
Quote:Players would need to be quarantined in league-controlled hotels, tested constantly, and shuttled to and from the park. For such a plan to work, they'd have to sacrifice their most basic freedoms of movement, because a single failed test would grind the season to a halt while at least one team spends two weeks in isolation, potentially triggering a cascade of shutdowns, too (the mere possibility of which prompted the NBA to suspend its season, after all).

Convincing the union to sign off on such draconian restrictions won't be easy, but the alternative may very well be no baseball.

The games would be made-for-TV events without fans. If each ballpark hosted one or two games a day, a regular schedule could be played.

The challenges would be enormous. Do three teams share one clubhouse? Could ballpark and hotel staff be expected to live in isolation as well to avoid infection? How long could players live like prisoners? Will testing capacity ramp up enough to accommodate an entire league? Are the results even reliable? And how would teams keep their facilities germ-free if they're in use all day?

This writer doesn't even mention that playing two games in a day at a spring training park would require playing at least one during the day. The average high temperature in Phoenix on June 1st is 100 degrees, and it goes up by a few more degrees as the month goes on. Doesn't get better in July, either.

There would be no reason to play games during the day at Spring Training facilities.

There are 11 suitable parks (12 if you add GCU) in the Phoenix Metro area. That is 22 or 24.

Chase Field can host double headers, since it is indoors. That gives 4 more teams.

Off days, etc. And if you really wanted 15 fields, Tucson is only 90 minutes away and has two suitable stadiums.

No need to play any day games other than at Chase

Even if that works out, the only reason to think about doing something like this is to put MLB games on TV.

And if all but one game a day starts at 10 pm ET, then all but one game a day only has significant TV value in 8 MLB markets (i.e, Colorado and farther west) and much less TV value for the 75% of US residents who live in the eastern and central time zones.
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(Yesterday 08:13 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(Yesterday 05:34 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(04-03-2020 06:03 PM)Wedge Wrote:  If this is the idea, forget it...

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox...020-season
Quote:Players would need to be quarantined in league-controlled hotels, tested constantly, and shuttled to and from the park. For such a plan to work, they'd have to sacrifice their most basic freedoms of movement, because a single failed test would grind the season to a halt while at least one team spends two weeks in isolation, potentially triggering a cascade of shutdowns, too (the mere possibility of which prompted the NBA to suspend its season, after all).

Convincing the union to sign off on such draconian restrictions won't be easy, but the alternative may very well be no baseball.

The games would be made-for-TV events without fans. If each ballpark hosted one or two games a day, a regular schedule could be played.

The challenges would be enormous. Do three teams share one clubhouse? Could ballpark and hotel staff be expected to live in isolation as well to avoid infection? How long could players live like prisoners? Will testing capacity ramp up enough to accommodate an entire league? Are the results even reliable? And how would teams keep their facilities germ-free if they're in use all day?

This writer doesn't even mention that playing two games in a day at a spring training park would require playing at least one during the day. The average high temperature in Phoenix on June 1st is 100 degrees, and it goes up by a few more degrees as the month goes on. Doesn't get better in July, either.

There would be no reason to play games during the day at Spring Training facilities.

There are 11 suitable parks (12 if you add GCU) in the Phoenix Metro area. That is 22 or 24.

Chase Field can host double headers, since it is indoors. That gives 4 more teams.

Off days, etc. And if you really wanted 15 fields, Tucson is only 90 minutes away and has two suitable stadiums.

No need to play any day games other than at Chase

Even if that works out, the only reason to think about doing something like this is to put MLB games on TV.

And if all but one game a day starts at 10 pm ET, then all but one game a day only has significant TV value in 8 MLB markets (i.e, Colorado and farther west) and much less TV value for the 75% of US residents who live in the eastern and central time zones.


You would do the East Coast feature games at Chase - think NY or Boston at 3 pm Arizona time, 6 PM East Coast Time. And you could start at 6 PM/5:30 PM. Since Arizona doesn't go on Daylight Savings, Sunset is around 7:15 in May, but it is down and comfortable out around 5:30/6 We play softball starting at 6 pm in the summer.

People will be starved for sports, so something will get huge ratings.
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