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(02-14-2020 03:44 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  I got Avenatti finishing ahead of Warren.

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(02-14-2020 05:16 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 04:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 03:45 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
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(02-14-2020 03:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  It could be a kick in the nuts for Buttigeig if he comes in 5th or 6th. I believe that could happen though. Bernie voters will show up, and the union, who is scared sh*tless of socialist policies, will go for Biden. I'm not sure aanyone else does very well.

I love the idea we are pretending that the "socialist" has policies that are anti-union. He's got more union endorsements than the rest of the candidates combined (by a wide margin). This is all about machine politics and Harry Reid not about the hilarious myth that Bernie is not pro-union. Next you are going to tell me Bernie is pro-billionaire.
It's about the health insurance man

Health insurance is one of the biggest perks of union membership and I would guess the policies arent that bad. Medicare for all takes away that perk and reduces the need for unions membership as the government has replaced the union

It actually just takes away the need to fight to keep their health insurance benefits every time it comes up for negotiation, allowing them to instead fight for increased pay or vacation or any other number of valuable things. Also keeps them from having to worry about losing their coverage during a strike.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-a...SKBN1W21TW

Bernie has also pushed harder than anyone against right to work laws and to strengthen and increase the ability to unionize across the country.

https://rewire.news/article/2018/05/15/b...work-laws/

Is McKinsey Pete gonna actually be able to successfully argue he's pro-union? It really is funny how bad the attacks are on Bernie. This one is embarrassingly bad, going after the only guy who's got a proven record of fighting for unions. It's all about attempting to go back to "Bernie Bro's" being mean on Twitter, which when compared to what any of these people would have to face once they go against Trump and the MAGA contingent will look like literal child's play.

I hear ya but its all about need of the union.

If a union argues for higher pay and more vacation, that benefits union and non union employees

Union healthcare is for union members only. Want this super awesome healthcare, join our union. Take that away and why would a non union member join? What else can the union offer them in the here and now?

Correct. One of the only recent selling points of a union was that they had their own healthcare plan, and if you want a real healthcare plan and not crappy Obamacare, you needed to join the union.


That's why the public support numbers for Obamacare are bogus. The numbers consist of:

1. People who get free sh*t

2. People who were able to keep their existing health insurance, therefore really didnt have Obamacare. (Companies in Pelosi's district, congress, congressional staffers, etc.)

3. Unions, who want crappy Obamacare to stay around while they great health insurance in order to boost union membership

4. Leftist fluffers who dont know any better. (Many of them are on this board.)

I have said before, the best way to have the country quickly get rid of Obamacare is to force all americans onto it.
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(02-14-2020 03:47 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 03:41 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 03:28 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 02:59 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Sanders 31%
Buttplug 29%
Sleepy Joe 22%
Karen 7%
Pocahontas 6%
Steyer 5%

Karen?
“Karen” = media buzzword to describe the demographic-type that likes Elizabeth Warren. Does not refer to any specific person.

gives raisins to kids on Halloween

drives an SUV to carpool her kids to soccer practice... better hope the ref doesn’t make a wrong call because she will sue!

love to use snapagram to post her workout selfies

after a long day of talking to managers and driving her kids around she sits down with her mom friends at book club and drinks lots and LOTS of wine
“oh my god Karen do you really have to talk to the Burger King manager every time they forget to give you a ketchup packet.“

“LOL! Yes!! I have to Facebook and instasnap it to all my friends to make sure everyone knows to watch out LOL!!!”

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(02-14-2020 06:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 05:16 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 04:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 03:45 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 03:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I love the idea we are pretending that the "socialist" has policies that are anti-union. He's got more union endorsements than the rest of the candidates combined (by a wide margin). This is all about machine politics and Harry Reid not about the hilarious myth that Bernie is not pro-union. Next you are going to tell me Bernie is pro-billionaire.
It's about the health insurance man

Health insurance is one of the biggest perks of union membership and I would guess the policies arent that bad. Medicare for all takes away that perk and reduces the need for unions membership as the government has replaced the union

It actually just takes away the need to fight to keep their health insurance benefits every time it comes up for negotiation, allowing them to instead fight for increased pay or vacation or any other number of valuable things. Also keeps them from having to worry about losing their coverage during a strike.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-a...SKBN1W21TW

Bernie has also pushed harder than anyone against right to work laws and to strengthen and increase the ability to unionize across the country.

https://rewire.news/article/2018/05/15/b...work-laws/

Is McKinsey Pete gonna actually be able to successfully argue he's pro-union? It really is funny how bad the attacks are on Bernie. This one is embarrassingly bad, going after the only guy who's got a proven record of fighting for unions. It's all about attempting to go back to "Bernie Bro's" being mean on Twitter, which when compared to what any of these people would have to face once they go against Trump and the MAGA contingent will look like literal child's play.

I hear ya but its all about need of the union.

If a union argues for higher pay and more vacation, that benefits union and non union employees

Union healthcare is for union members only. Want this super awesome healthcare, join our union. Take that away and why would a non union member join? What else can the union offer them in the here and now?

Correct. One of the only recent selling points of a union was that they had their own healthcare plan, and if you want a real healthcare plan and not crappy Obamacare, you needed to join the union.


That's why the public support numbers for Obamacare are bogus. The numbers consist of:

1. People who get free sh*t

2. People who were able to keep their existing health insurance, therefore really didnt have Obamacare. (Companies in Pelosi's district, congress, congressional staffers, etc.)

3. Unions, who want crappy Obamacare to stay around while they great health insurance in order to boost union membership

4. Leftist fluffers who dont know any better. (Many of them are on this board.)

I have said before, the best way to have the country quickly get rid of Obamacare is to force all americans onto it.

Unless you get a great subsidy, Obamacare is brutal
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-...andidates/

Will Bloomberg qualify?
Gabbard and Steyer also havent qualified
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Things are trending real good for Bernie in Nevada.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...-6866.html
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(02-17-2020 06:49 PM)solohawks Wrote:  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-...andidates/

Will Bloomberg qualify?
Gabbard and Steyer also havent qualified

Having heard Bloomberg's responses to questions recently the best thing that could happen would be for him to get on stage and piss his pants live on TV.
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(02-17-2020 07:33 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 06:49 PM)solohawks Wrote:  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-...andidates/

Will Bloomberg qualify?
Gabbard and Steyer also havent qualified

Having heard Bloomberg's responses to questions recently the best thing that could happen would be for him to get on stage and piss his pants live on TV.

Wouldn’t even matter if he did, he knows he will bag 20% (minimum) of the delegates merely by flooding the democratic base with advertising. They can’t resist the programming.

All biden, pete, and klob have to do is secure 30% more between the 3 of them, and they will have their little party in Milwaukee without you.
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(02-17-2020 06:49 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Will Bloomberg qualify?



https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/...8962843648

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(02-17-2020 07:43 PM)green Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 06:49 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Will Bloomberg qualify?



https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/...8962843648

DOES CHIPOTLE DELIVER

Hope so. Get that little Oligarch on the stage. He'll crash and burn in amazing fashion.
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(02-17-2020 07:31 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Things are trending real good for Bernie in Nevada.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...-6866.html

Could be a fluke poll. Or could be reality. Won't know for another week.
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(02-17-2020 08:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 07:31 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Things are trending real good for Bernie in Nevada.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...-6866.html

Could be a fluke poll. Or could be reality. Won't know for another week.

I would certainly lean towards the one showing him up +7 being more real than the one showing him up by +19, but people have been way underestimating his minority support. Also until further notice, I'm going to believe all Biden numbers are just pure fantasy and he'll way underperform.
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(02-17-2020 08:10 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 08:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 07:31 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Things are trending real good for Bernie in Nevada.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...-6866.html

Could be a fluke poll. Or could be reality. Won't know for another week.

I would certainly lean towards the one showing him up +7 being more real than the one showing him up by +19, but people have been way underestimating his minority support. Also until further notice, I'm going to believe all Biden numbers are just pure fantasy and he'll way underperform.
All these caucus polls and national polls are fake. Any poll that doesn't have to be right is likely a fake. And every poll up until the week before the general election will be fake.

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(02-17-2020 08:10 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 08:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 07:31 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Things are trending real good for Bernie in Nevada.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...-6866.html

Could be a fluke poll. Or could be reality. Won't know for another week.

I would certainly lean towards the one showing him up +7 being more real than the one showing him up by +19, but people have been way underestimating his minority support. Also until further notice, I'm going to believe all Biden numbers are just pure fantasy and he'll way underperform.

Bernie should overperform and Biden underperform in caucuses.
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(02-18-2020 09:15 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 08:10 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 08:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-17-2020 07:31 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Things are trending real good for Bernie in Nevada.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls...-6866.html

Could be a fluke poll. Or could be reality. Won't know for another week.

I would certainly lean towards the one showing him up +7 being more real than the one showing him up by +19, but people have been way underestimating his minority support. Also until further notice, I'm going to believe all Biden numbers are just pure fantasy and he'll way underperform.

Bernie should overperform and Biden underperform in caucuses.

Yeah I agree, and I also think CIA Pete will over-perform what he's polling at. I think he finishes second. I'll lay out my prediction

Bernie-28 to 31%
CIA Pete-18 to 20%
Warren-14 to 16%
Slow Joe-10 to 12%
Klob-8 to 10%
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There is a new Nevada poll out by some progressive polling company, Data For Progress. Not sure on their accuracy but Joe has dropped like a rock if this is remotely close to accurate.

Sanders 35%
Warren 16%
Mayor Pete 15%
Biden 14%
Steyer 10%
Amy 9%


in depth poll results here:
http://filesforprogress.org/datasets/202...7_2020.pdf
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Surprise, sur frickin prise


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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/18...ers-115709

"First Amy Klobuchar had to acknowledge in a recent interview that she couldn’t name the president of Mexico. Then, speaking at a Black History Month event in Las Vegas, she met a crowd full of people who had difficulty naming her.

Pete Buttigieg has difficulties, too. His speech at a Nevada Black Legislative Caucus brunch over the weekend competed with the din of a buffet line — and whole tables of people who rarely looked up...."

"...Klobuchar drew applause, as well.

But as she left with a trail of cameras, one girl asked her mother, “Who is she?”

“I don’t know,” the mother replied...."

Klobuchar would have to be a JFK type to succeed with that name outside of Minnesota. And she hasn't. I've never seen someone get so much attention for finishing a distant 5th and 3rd in Iowa and New Hampshire. Both of the two seem to be staying low in the polls in the remaining states.
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But with South Carolina only a week beyond Nevada and Super Tuesday 3 days after South Carolina and Sanders staying in the 20s or low 30s, I don't know if anyone will drop out before Super Tuesday.
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(02-18-2020 08:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/18...ers-115709

"First Amy Klobuchar had to acknowledge in a recent interview that she couldn’t name the president of Mexico. Then, speaking at a Black History Month event in Las Vegas, she met a crowd full of people who had difficulty naming her.

Pete Buttigieg has difficulties, too. His speech at a Nevada Black Legislative Caucus brunch over the weekend competed with the din of a buffet line — and whole tables of people who rarely looked up...."

"...Klobuchar drew applause, as well.

But as she left with a trail of cameras, one girl asked her mother, “Who is she?”

“I don’t know,” the mother replied...."

Klobuchar would have to be a JFK type to succeed with that name outside of Minnesota. And she hasn't. I've never seen someone get so much attention for finishing a distant 5th and 3rd in Iowa and New Hampshire. Both of the two seem to be staying low in the polls in the remaining states.

Because the corporately owned establishment media is trying as hard as they can to paint a narrative that these clowns are building momentum. It's all just a hope and a prayer to stop the movement they ignored and downplayed for all of 2019 that was just building up steam. They are in a full panic. This is the nonsense you are now seeing in opinion pieces because of how scared they are of Bernie.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...es-decide/

This entire thing is just gold, but I like these choice paragraphs a lot

"For decades, the conversation about nominations has been about the conflicts between party elites and everyone else. Today, that conversation is counterproductive. A better approach is to think about how voters and elites could best play their different roles: to make their political parties more representative while ultimately narrowing the nomination choice down to one person. And the best way to do that would be through preference primaries.

Preference primaries could allow voters to rank their choices among candidates, as well as to register opinions about their issue priorities — like an exit poll, but more formal and with all the voters. The results would be public but not binding; a way to inform elites about voter preferences."

Just openly advocating for a system that will allow the voters to express their opinion and then allow the "elites" to piss all over it if it's something they don't like. It doesn't even matter if I agreed with nothing Bernie wanted I'd support him over supporting those that want this.
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