(02-20-2020 04:11 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 09:08 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 08:40 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  UConn says hello

Yea, UConn needs home dates pretty badly that year. I imagine they'd be happy to host both and give return dates to each out in the future. They've already put together one H&H with San Jose, so there's a relationship and a willingness there for both teams to fly to each other already.

You really have to be desperate to travel to Wyoming. Then again, UConn football could be that desperate.

Direct flight to Denver, 2 hour bus ride to Laramie. Not that bad. Missouri made the trip last year. Granted, short flight but still the same.

Not sure if the airport in Laramie is big enough to handle football charters.

(02-20-2020 04:11 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 09:08 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 08:40 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  UConn says hello

Yea, UConn needs home dates pretty badly that year. I imagine they'd be happy to host both and give return dates to each out in the future. They've already put together one H&H with San Jose, so there's a relationship and a willingness there for both teams to fly to each other already.

You really have to be desperate to travel to Wyoming. Then again, UConn football could be that desperate.

You fly in and out of Denver. Not really much more difficult than any of the western AAC flights they've been taking.

As a San Jose State Spartan I say schedule more games that will be cancelled. It helps pay for the program. :)

(02-20-2020 04:19 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:11 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 09:08 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 08:40 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  UConn says hello

Yea, UConn needs home dates pretty badly that year. I imagine they'd be happy to host both and give return dates to each out in the future. They've already put together one H&H with San Jose, so there's a relationship and a willingness there for both teams to fly to each other already.

You really have to be desperate to travel to Wyoming. Then again, UConn football could be that desperate.

You fly in and out of Denver. Not really much more difficult than any of the western AAC flights they've been taking.

1) Still a two hour bus ride to the middle of nowhere.

2) I thought UConn left the AAC so they wouldn't have to take all these western AAC flights they're taking now.

3) There's nothing to do in Wyoming. At least when they flew to Houston, SMU, and Tulane there's things to do in Houston, Dallas, and New Orleans (although Tulsa's boring too).

(02-20-2020 04:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 02:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 02:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Playing the game in North Carolina is rather odd. I realize Clemson isn't so far away, but it's still odd.

I imagine the reason it is neutral-site is so the sponsors can sell the TV rights. If it was a Georgia or Clemson home game, the SEC or ACC would own the rights and therefore their network partner would as well. Now the game can be sold as a separate entity, maximizing revenue for the schools.

And the game is easy for the fans, Georgia is the farther of the two schools from Charlotte, and they are only 195 miles away.

Furthermore, Charlotte is loaded with Clemson fans and alumni, and probably a good many Georgia fans, too. ESPN has a major broadcasting facility in Charlotte which includes the headquarters of the SEC Network and a branch office for the ACC Network. Keep in mind also that Clemson and Georgia already had a home-and-home series scheduled, along with another neutral-site game (in Atlanta) for 2023.

Yes. Consider this neutral-and-neutral, or sort of home-sort of home. They're playing a backyard game for Georgia in Atlanta and a backyard game for Clemson in Charlotte. And, the games are easily accessible for both teams.

Campus sites are almost always better, but these are good regional neutral site locations. It beats say, Auburn vs. Oregon in Arlington.

Guess the Spartans won't be calling UConn after all. That's a pretty good deal, get paid a fat check, and then double dip and get paid to take a bus trip to South Central!

USFFan

(02-20-2020 04:19 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:11 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 09:08 AM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 08:40 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  UConn says hello

Yea, UConn needs home dates pretty badly that year. I imagine they'd be happy to host both and give return dates to each out in the future. They've already put together one H&H with San Jose, so there's a relationship and a willingness there for both teams to fly to each other already.

You really have to be desperate to travel to Wyoming. Then again, UConn football could be that desperate.

You fly in and out of Denver. Not really much more difficult than any of the western AAC flights they've been taking.

I've never understood people freaking out about these flights. Getting on a plane out of Hartford to Denver is a 4h, 40 minute non-stop flight. Similarly, it's 3 hours to Orlando, 3:10 to Tampa, 4:10 to Houston and 4:11 to Dallas (all non-stops). The extra 30-100 minutes on the plane isn't that big of an inconvenience. It probably takes longer to get to Greenville (ECU) than any of those places because you're unlikely to get a non-stop other than via a charter.

That said, if you have to fly to Denver and take a 2 hour bus ride, that would suck...

USFFan

(02-20-2020 04:52 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 02:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 02:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Playing the game in North Carolina is rather odd. I realize Clemson isn't so far away, but it's still odd.

I imagine the reason it is neutral-site is so the sponsors can sell the TV rights. If it was a Georgia or Clemson home game, the SEC or ACC would own the rights and therefore their network partner would as well. Now the game can be sold as a separate entity, maximizing revenue for the schools.

And the game is easy for the fans, Georgia is the farther of the two schools from Charlotte, and they are only 195 miles away.

Furthermore, Charlotte is loaded with Clemson fans and alumni, and probably a good many Georgia fans, too. ESPN has a major broadcasting facility in Charlotte which includes the headquarters of the SEC Network and a branch office for the ACC Network. Keep in mind also that Clemson and Georgia already had a home-and-home series scheduled, along with another neutral-site game (in Atlanta) for 2023.

Yes. Consider this neutral-and-neutral, or sort of home-sort of home.

Same thing with LSU vs FSU .... 2022 game in New Orleans, 2023 game in Orlando. Both "neutral sites" but each is obviously much closer to one team than the other.

(02-20-2020 04:16 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Direct flight to Denver, 2 hour bus ride to Laramie. Not that bad. Missouri made the trip last year. Granted, short flight but still the same.

Not sure if the airport in Laramie is big enough to handle football charters.

Laramie's airport has an 8500-foot runway. I know you need more runway at takeoff at high altitude (and when it's hot), but that strikes me that it should be able to accommodate a charter. I once saw a 747 come into Lexington KY's airport, and they only have a 7100-foot runway.

(02-20-2020 06:20 PM)usffan Wrote:  

Guess the Spartans won't be calling UConn after all. That's a pretty good deal, get paid a fat check, and then double dip and get paid to take a bus trip to South Central!

USFFan

We host UConn in 2020 and visit in 2028.

Double victory for the Spartans, we get Georgia money for not playing and USC money for playing.

Gotta do those double pay days more often.

(02-20-2020 07:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:52 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 02:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 02:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Playing the game in North Carolina is rather odd. I realize Clemson isn't so far away, but it's still odd.

I imagine the reason it is neutral-site is so the sponsors can sell the TV rights. If it was a Georgia or Clemson home game, the SEC or ACC would own the rights and therefore their network partner would as well. Now the game can be sold as a separate entity, maximizing revenue for the schools.

And the game is easy for the fans, Georgia is the farther of the two schools from Charlotte, and they are only 195 miles away.

Furthermore, Charlotte is loaded with Clemson fans and alumni, and probably a good many Georgia fans, too. ESPN has a major broadcasting facility in Charlotte which includes the headquarters of the SEC Network and a branch office for the ACC Network. Keep in mind also that Clemson and Georgia already had a home-and-home series scheduled, along with another neutral-site game (in Atlanta) for 2023.

Yes. Consider this neutral-and-neutral, or sort of home-sort of home.

Same thing with LSU vs FSU .... 2022 game in New Orleans, 2023 game in Orlando. Both "neutral sites" but each is obviously much closer to one team than the other.

ESPiN at its best.

(02-21-2020 05:12 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 07:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:52 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 02:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I imagine the reason it is neutral-site is so the sponsors can sell the TV rights. If it was a Georgia or Clemson home game, the SEC or ACC would own the rights and therefore their network partner would as well. Now the game can be sold as a separate entity, maximizing revenue for the schools.

And the game is easy for the fans, Georgia is the farther of the two schools from Charlotte, and they are only 195 miles away.

Furthermore, Charlotte is loaded with Clemson fans and alumni, and probably a good many Georgia fans, too. ESPN has a major broadcasting facility in Charlotte which includes the headquarters of the SEC Network and a branch office for the ACC Network. Keep in mind also that Clemson and Georgia already had a home-and-home series scheduled, along with another neutral-site game (in Atlanta) for 2023.

Yes. Consider this neutral-and-neutral, or sort of home-sort of home.

Same thing with LSU vs FSU .... 2022 game in New Orleans, 2023 game in Orlando. Both "neutral sites" but each is obviously much closer to one team than the other.

ESPiN at its best.

You know, I would imagine ESPN would have preferred them to be true home and home games, because then they would have gotten them for "free" as part of their SEC and ACC packages they already own.

(02-20-2020 02:07 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 01:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 01:45 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 09:55 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Great news for CFB fans.

No.

Should be in Clemson or Athens.

Its not even in Georgia or South Carolina!

Definitely a missed opportunity. These two should already be playing every year, alternating between Clemson and Athens just an hour-twenty apart.

If there is ever a playoff system that doesn't automatically eliminate every team upon its second loss of the season, then there will be more games every year like Clemson-Georgia.

I agree. This is why we need a 16 team playoff. We'll see a lot more old rivalries revived and interesting non conference matchups.

(02-20-2020 10:54 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 06:20 PM)usffan Wrote:  

Guess the Spartans won't be calling UConn after all. That's a pretty good deal, get paid a fat check, and then double dip and get paid to take a bus trip to South Central!

USFFan

We host UConn in 2020 and visit in 2028.

Double victory for the Spartans, we get Georgia money for not playing and USC money for playing.

Gotta do those double pay days more often.

Wasn't intended as a knock on either school. Somebody way upthread had suggested these cancellations would invite series with UConn. I found it interesting that you guys had a willing replacement instantly in hand. That's a great job by your AD.

USFFan

(02-21-2020 08:27 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-21-2020 05:12 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 07:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:52 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Furthermore, Charlotte is loaded with Clemson fans and alumni, and probably a good many Georgia fans, too. ESPN has a major broadcasting facility in Charlotte which includes the headquarters of the SEC Network and a branch office for the ACC Network. Keep in mind also that Clemson and Georgia already had a home-and-home series scheduled, along with another neutral-site game (in Atlanta) for 2023.

Yes. Consider this neutral-and-neutral, or sort of home-sort of home.

Same thing with LSU vs FSU .... 2022 game in New Orleans, 2023 game in Orlando. Both "neutral sites" but each is obviously much closer to one team than the other.

ESPiN at its best.

You know, I would imagine ESPN would have preferred them to be true home and home games, because then they would have gotten them for "free" as part of their SEC and ACC packages they already own.

Good point!

(02-21-2020 08:27 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-21-2020 05:12 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 07:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:52 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 04:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Furthermore, Charlotte is loaded with Clemson fans and alumni, and probably a good many Georgia fans, too. ESPN has a major broadcasting facility in Charlotte which includes the headquarters of the SEC Network and a branch office for the ACC Network. Keep in mind also that Clemson and Georgia already had a home-and-home series scheduled, along with another neutral-site game (in Atlanta) for 2023.

Yes. Consider this neutral-and-neutral, or sort of home-sort of home.

Same thing with LSU vs FSU .... 2022 game in New Orleans, 2023 game in Orlando. Both "neutral sites" but each is obviously much closer to one team than the other.

ESPiN at its best.

You know, I would imagine ESPN would have preferred them to be true home and home games, because then they would have gotten them for "free" as part of their SEC and ACC packages they already own.

The ESPiN ratings will not change much. LSU and FSU will lose a real home game.

San Jose State will get $1.1 million from USC for the game in 2021:

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...a-in-2021/

So, they collect $2.9 million for playing a road game in Southern California, where they spend a lot of time recruiting. This has worked out very well for the Spartans...thanks to Georgia.

(02-20-2020 02:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Playing the game in North Carolina is rather odd. I realize Clemson isn't so far away, but it's still odd.

It would have been great to convert the 2024 game that is scheduled for Atlanta into a home game for Georgia in Athens, and then make the 2021 game a home game for Clemson. However, I'm sure the cost to break the contract of the 2024 Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game is extremely steep and would not sit well with the folks that run that game and the Peach Bowl. So, Charlotte is great alternative.

(02-20-2020 11:55 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(02-20-2020 09:58 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  USC cancels their 2021 game against UC Davis. They now have an opening on their 2021 schedule which according to the LA Times they are close to filling, probably with SJSU.

https://247sports.com/college/usc/Articl...144022015/

The cancellation will cost them $725,000. This was a game they should have never scheduled, one of the many reasons Lynn Swann is no longer the AD at USC. The Trojans will remain one of three FBS schools to have never played an FCS school, along with UCLA and Notre Dame.

Correct, you don't unnecessarily let go of a unique advantage like that, and it was corrected immediately after an AD switch. Someone here actually posted that wasn't a top-100 mistake of Lynn Swann's, lol.

Someone pointed out on Twitter that the new USC AD, Mike Bohn, might have had another reason to cancel a football game with UC Davis.

When Bohn was the AD at Colorado, he hired Dan Hawkins as CU's football coach. Hawkins was a bust there, Bohn later fired him, and hiring Hawkins in the first place was viewed as Bohn making a big mistake.

Dan Hawkins is now the head football coach at UC Davis.