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RE: What does Dayton, or anyone else, have to do to get into the BE?
Also not regarding the A10 and St. Louis and VCU are currently middle of the pack in this year's seed, which was done by Bona03.

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TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE
Wednesday, March 11 at Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Game 1: 12. La Salle (2-10) vs 13. Fordham (1-12) 1:00 PM ESPN+
Game 2: 11. George Mason (3-9) vs 14. Saint Joseph's (0-12) 3:30 PM ESPN+

Thursday, March 12 at Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Game 3: 8. Saint Louis (7-5) vs 9. George Washington (5-7) 12:00 PM NBC Sports Network
Game 4: 5. Duquesne (8-4) vs Game 1 Winner 2:30 PM NBC Sports Network
Game 5: 7. Davidson (7-5) vs 10. Massachusetts (4-8) 6:00 PM NBC Sports Network
Game 6: 6. VCU (7-5) vs Game 2 Winner 8:30 PM NBC Sports Network

Friday, March 13 at Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Game 7: 1. Dayton (12-0) vs Game 3 Winner 12:00 PM NBC Sports Network
Game 8: 4. St. Bonaventure (9-4) vs Game 4 Winner 2:30 PM NBC Sports Network
Game 9: 2. Rhode Island (11-2) vs Game 5 Winner 6:00 PM NBC Sports Network
Game 10: 3. Richmond (9-3) vs Game 6 Winner 8:30 PM NBC Sports Network

Saturday, March 14 at Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Game 11: Game 7 Winner vs Game 8 Winner 1:00 PM CBS Sports Network
Game 12: Game 9 Winner vs Game 10 Winner 3:30 PM CBS Sports Network

Sunday, March 15 at Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
Game 13: Championship Game 1:00 PM CBS

SEEDS
1. Dayton 12-0
2. Rhode Island 11-2
3. Richmond 9-3
4. St. Bonaventure 9-4
5. Duquesne 8-4
6. VCU* 7-5
7. Davidson * 7-5
8. Saint Louis* 7-5
9. George Washington 5-7
10. Massachusetts 4-8
11. George Mason 3-9
12. La Salle 2-10
13. Fordham 1-11
14. Saint Joseph’s 0-12

Details can be found here on the tiebreakers etc.
https://www.basketballforum.com/threads/...t-15326671
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RE: What does Dayton, or anyone else, have to do to get into the BE?
(02-15-2020 08:02 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(02-14-2020 01:59 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Why would the Big East expand? Those schools mentioned really don't improve the league that much.

They don't need to anymore, UConn was a special exception. Giant conferences are a football inspired phenomenon. There’s no reason for a bloated Big East; 11 might be the largest conference not fielding football.

Had UConn stayed put in the beginning, Creighton wouldn’t have been invited.

Yep. 20 game double round robin currently. I don't see them wanting anymore.
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RE: What does Dayton, or anyone else, have to do to get into the BE?
Found the payout and general ballpark of over 600k this year and then around 500k unless we start dancing.
Note the amount of a NCAA Credit is higher but would not dramatically change the figures.

Details:
* Going to split the media $ equally but feel there must be some variation if you are on ESPN etc or not.

This year if you take the media and the share of 25% pool it equals 1/2 Million per team.

2014: 10 (Dayton 4, Saint Louis 2, St Joe's 1, VCU 1, UMass 1, GW 1)
2015: 5 (Dayton 3, VCU 1, Davidson 1)
2016: 5 (Dayton 1, VCU 2, St Joe's 2)
2017: 4 (Dayton 1, VCU 1, URI 2)
2018: 5 (URI 2, SBU 2, Davidson 1)
2019: 2 (VCU 1 and St Louis 1)
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31 credits

I used $257,807 per unit, the 75/25 split and the 25 was split by the teams that did not make it. about 8 M for the conference (7,992,017).
Code:
Team    Credits    Earned     Receive          Remainder A10 Pool

Dayton    9    $2,320,263    $1,740,197.25    $580,065.75

VCU    6    $1,546,842    $1,160,131.50    $386,710.50

URI    4    $1,031,228    $  773,421.00   $257,807.00

SLU    3    $  773,415    $  580,065.75    $193,349.25

St Joes    3    $  773,415    $  580,065.75    $193,349.25

St Bona    2    $  515,614    $  386,710.50    $128,903.50

Davidson2    $  515,614    $  386,710.50    $128,903.50

GW    1    $  257,807    $  193,355.25    $ 64,451.75

Umass    1    $  257,807    $  193,355.25    $ 64,451.75

La Salle0    $0.00

Duquesne0    $0.00      

Fordham    0    $0.00      

Richmond0    $0.00      

G Mason 0    $0.00      

------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                 A10 Pool Total $1,997,992.75



Every team receives a cut of the 25% pool or $142,713.77

Every team receives a cut of the 5M Media * $357,142.86

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I like the big east jumping to 14 with Umass, Dayton and St. Louis U and the AAC to 12 with VCU/AFA football only and all sports to the summit
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(Yesterday 10:27 AM)bluesox Wrote:  I like the big east jumping to 14 with Umass, Dayton and St. Louis U and the AAC to 12 with VCU/AFA football only and all sports to the summit

I reckon UMass, Dayton and SLU would all jump at that, and if they did, VCU might look more favorably on an AAC.

But am very skeptical that Air Force is any more interested now than they were the last time the AAC wanted them to join.
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RE: What does Dayton, or anyone else, have to do to get into the BE?
I posted a while back, but does anyone know the payouts that Wichita State receives from the AAC? Now, at present, the only non-football program that could command a similar (but likely greater) value (if not for location) would be Gonzaga. If WSU is getting a special deal from the AAC, I don't think, for example, a VCU could demand similar value. The other question is whether the AAC (and ESPN) would want to give additional resources to a non-football member. I'm honestly not sure.
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I'm starting to foresee more and more a scenario in which the AAC adds an all-sports member, as opposed to VCU/fill in the blank for football only.
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(Yesterday 01:14 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I'm starting to foresee more and more a scenario in which the AAC adds an all-sports member, as opposed to VCU/fill in the blank for football only.

UMass, Liberty ($$$), Old Dominion, Georgia State, UAB, So. Miss, Rice.

I’m going to need Mr. Dazzle’s thoughts on their expansion potential and personal connection with each of the aforementioned universities. Thanks.
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What does Dayton, or anyone else, have to do to get into the BE?
(Yesterday 01:22 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(Yesterday 01:14 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I'm starting to foresee more and more a scenario in which the AAC adds an all-sports member, as opposed to VCU/fill in the blank for football only.

UMass, Liberty ($$$), Old Dominion, Georgia State, UAB, So. Miss, Rice.

I’m going to need Mr. Dazzle’s thoughts on their expansion potential and personal connection with each of the aforementioned universities. Thanks.


UCONN gave notice well over a year ago. If we haven’t added one of those schools by now, then they won’t be added.

All the talk from members is 11.
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(Yesterday 01:22 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(Yesterday 01:14 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I'm starting to foresee more and more a scenario in which the AAC adds an all-sports member, as opposed to VCU/fill in the blank for football only.

UMass, Liberty ($$$), Old Dominion, Georgia State, UAB, So. Miss, Rice.

I’m going to need Mr. Dazzle’s thoughts on their expansion potential and personal connection with each of the aforementioned universities. Thanks.


Each of those universities would bring many positives to the table, and each would be deserving of an AAC invite (at least in some respects). If they asked the old Dazzler, I would choose ODU (for many reasons).

As to my personal connections (direct or indirect) with any of the seven schools you list ... I have a cousin who took some courses at UAB (for which, I must admit, I have a soft spot — since my father "loosely recruited" back in the 1970s when Gene Bartow coached at then-Memphis State University and Pops and I enjoyed following Clean Gene leading the Blazers after he left UCLA for Birmingham).

Who would you choose of the seven, esayem?
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