(02-13-2020 09:22 PM)rkt Wrote: If you pick the ten best basketball players at Toledo in the last 60 or so years, how many of them do you think played since 2000? Older fans will tell you not many and that says something. (I’m getting my information from a friend who is old.) ?
I go back to Mix so I can speak to the issue. Two or three of Coach K’s teams would have won the MAC handily in the 60s and 70s. Players are so much better trained and experienced when they arrive. I would put the Pearson/Brown/Booth team against any Rocket team ever and say they’d win six of ten. Brown, Pearson, Booth and now Marreon could be Top Ten contenders. The league is just so much tougher now.
It's a tricky what-if game isn't it? How many of today's heavy weights would put down Ali?... Put them all in the same era, same training.
Those older era players were every bit as obsessed, with fewer distractions. The games played on the lots now pale in comparison. And they realized early there were others on the team. They realized defense was part of the game yet they could still put up a hundred, two at a time. If the rules are called, today's bigger bodies mean na da.
I'd give your guys two wins.
A little fuel to the fire of what was coming out of High School back in the day. These kids are going to compete with anything on the floor today. What a pleasure to watch that ball move and the players rotate and I'm not just talking Bird (BTW: watch at least 19 sec). Look at the air under that kid's feet on the first outside shot. Also note, they are playing a long court. These were athletes that knew both sides of the court and this was SMALL school Indiana ball.
(This post was last modified: 02-14-2020 07:18 PM by eastisbest.)
(02-12-2020 12:13 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote: Incredible streak. All time record at 41-18... Seems high for a program with a decent history like them.
Akron just won their 29th of 32 against Bgs??? Wow.
All time vs Miami is 61-67.
Miami (OH) 128 61 67 .477 8454 8684 -230 66.0 67.8 -1.8
From Sports-reference.com.
Blame ESPN+ for that one.
Even if we only played them once a year those total games wouldn’t add up. I think they were 37-0 against us during the Harper years. Felt like it anyway.
Ron Harper was a hell of a basketball player. Even though he pounded us like a drum, I respected his talent.
And it sure did. :-(
It just killed me when I read in an interview that Ron Harper was leaning towards Toledo until our coaches backed off and that's how he ended up at Miami. I wanted to hate Charlie Coles but I just couldn't. One of my favorite MAC coaches.
(02-12-2020 08:33 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote: All time vs Miami is 61-67.
Miami (OH) 128 61 67 .477 8454 8684 -230 66.0 67.8 -1.8
From Sports-reference.com.
Blame ESPN+ for that one.
Even if we only played them once a year those total games wouldn’t add up. I think they were 37-0 against us during the Harper years. Felt like it anyway.
Ron Harper was a hell of a basketball player. Even though he pounded us like a drum, I respected his talent.
And it sure did. :-(
It just killed me when I read in an interview that Ron Harper was leaning towards Toledo until our coaches backed off and that's how he ended up at Miami. I wanted to hate Charlie Coles but I just couldn't. One of my favorite MAC coaches.
Coles thought he had Stempin but he lost that one. Picture Miami with Sczyrbiak and Stempin together.
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Miami Men's Basketball Visits Toledo Tuesday
