(02-10-2020 12:58 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote: (02-10-2020 12:56 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: (02-10-2020 12:55 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote: (02-10-2020 11:50 AM)macgar32 Wrote: (02-10-2020 11:38 AM)salukiblue Wrote: Duh.
Wiseman left.
I would be #2 and #~15.
And I'd imagine Memphis would be 21-2 or 20-3 at worst.
I agree it is DUH...But everyone is not as observant as you.
So many hot takes that it needed to be said with everyone ignoring the obvious facts of the situation we are in...We don't have anywhere near the talent other successful Freshmen classes have placed on the floor.
So I placed facts out there to try and give some context to everyone jumping off the bandwagon.
That's some good info. But, if this class wasn't "all that", then why did we have all the off-season talk about "smoke", "undefeated", & "national title"?
James Wiseman enuf said!
Ah. Got it. Without Wiseman NIT or CBI. With Wiseman national title.
A dozen posters have tried to explain it to you, but you continue on your inexplicably clueless path.
Cincinnati 2000
With Kenyon Martin
#1 Preseason ranking
#1 Ranking 20 weeks
#1 Ranking going into CUSA Tournament
28-2 with 2 losses by a combined 10 points
Without Kenyon Martin
- Lose to 16-13 St. Louis in the first round of CUSA Tournament
- Dropped to #2 seed for NCAA Tournament
- Lose to #7 seed Tulsa in the 2nd Round of the NCAA Tournament by 10 points
- Record of 1-2
UNC 2020
UNC With Cole Anthony
- Preseason ranked in top 10
- 6-3
UNC Without Cole Anthony
- 4-9
- Would finish with a record under .500 without him
Cleveland Cavaliers With & Without Guess Who
2016-17: 50-32
2017-18: 19-63
Davidson With & Without Guess Who
1970 - 2007: No NCAA wins
2008: Elite 8
2009 - 2019: No NCAA wins
Duke 2019
29-3 With Zion
#1 in the country
3-3 without Zion
Memphis 2020
Wiseman Vs. Maurice/Thomas
Wiseman
23 minutes
19.7 points
10.7 rebounds
3.0 blocks
76.9% field goal
70.4% free throw
Maurice/Thomas
22 minutes
7.5 points
4.8 rebounds
42.5% field goal
75% free throws
Free Throw Attempts
Wiseman
3 games
27 attempts
Maurice/Thomas
36 games
20 attempts
There is always that kid in grade school that you beat up and instead of just quitting, he keeps on coming at you, you keep beating him up, tell him to stop it and he just won't. The only way to get him to stop is to knock him unconscious.
That is literally you. Unless you give it up, everyone is going to keep mocking you.