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New Haven to D1?
Currenrr- Hearing the University of New Haven got final internal approval to jump to Division I. Not sure of conference, but NEC (currently at 11 teams) seems most likely option. Have solid football facilities, will need upgrades elsewhere.

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1 down, 19 to go for the ASun
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Unless 14 or 16 becomes the norm, I can’t imagine there’s too many spots left. I know there’s no quota but there seems to be something. Been a mad rush to D-I lately
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(02-09-2020 10:48 PM)sctvman Wrote:  Hearing the University of New Haven got final internal approval to jump to Division I. Not sure of conference, but NEC (currently at 11 teams) seems most likely option.

This was predicted by a realignmentologist a half-decade ago:

(12-06-2015 04:25 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  New Haven NEC
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(02-10-2020 12:10 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  Unless 14 or 16 becomes the norm, I can’t imagine there’s too many spots left. I know there’s no quota but there seems to be something. Been a mad rush to D-I lately

I think 14 would be the standard for the P5. I think everyone else stays 10-12 per conference. Depending on how the Big 12 and PAC 12 expands determines the dominoes falling. Of course I'm assuming Texas and Oklahoma stay in the big 12.
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I just have to wonder what in the flying heck Bentley is waiting for? They really should have gotten out ahead of this.
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(02-10-2020 06:35 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I just have to wonder what in the flying heck Bentley is waiting for? They really should have gotten out ahead of this.

Definitely agree. They’re going to miss the boat.
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(02-10-2020 01:44 AM)46566 Wrote:  
(02-10-2020 12:10 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  Unless 14 or 16 becomes the norm, I can’t imagine there’s too many spots left. I know there’s no quota but there seems to be something. Been a mad rush to D-I lately

I think 14 would be the standard for the P5. I think everyone else stays 10-12 per conference. Depending on how the Big 12 and PAC 12 expands determines the dominoes falling. Of course I'm assuming Texas and Oklahoma stay in the big 12.

There are only 5 conferences below 10:
Atlantic Sun, America East, WAC, Summit at 9 and Ivy at 8.
There are actually only 8 at 10 (Big 12, CAA, Horizaon, MVC, Patriot, Southern, SWAC and West Coast). The rest are bigger.
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New Haven is in NE 10 Conference in D2. LIU-Post and Merrimack came from there. That means they will go to NEC along with Bentley and Southern New Hampshire to 14.
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(02-10-2020 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  New Haven is in NE 10 Conference in D2. LIU-Post and Merrimack came from there. That means they will go to NEC along with Bentley and Southern New Hampshire to 14.

Southern New Hampshire has the same degree mill problem that plagues both Liberty and Grand Canyon
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Southern New Hampshire would be a very bad idea for D1. You already have UNH and Dartmouth, and New Hampshire is a very small state to begin with.
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(02-10-2020 08:33 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-10-2020 01:44 AM)46566 Wrote:  
(02-10-2020 12:10 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  Unless 14 or 16 becomes the norm, I can’t imagine there’s too many spots left. I know there’s no quota but there seems to be something. Been a mad rush to D-I lately

I think 14 would be the standard for the P5. I think everyone else stays 10-12 per conference. Depending on how the Big 12 and PAC 12 expands determines the dominoes falling. Of course I'm assuming Texas and Oklahoma stay in the big 12.

There are only 5 conferences below 10:
Atlantic Sun, America East, WAC, Summit at 9 and Ivy at 8.
There are actually only 8 at 10 (Big 12, CAA, Horizaon, MVC, Patriot, Southern, SWAC and West Coast). The rest are bigger.

I don't see the Ivy ever expanding. It has been called the ancient 8 for a reason, although one never should say never.
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(02-10-2020 10:12 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(02-10-2020 08:33 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-10-2020 01:44 AM)46566 Wrote:  
(02-10-2020 12:10 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  Unless 14 or 16 becomes the norm, I can’t imagine there’s too many spots left. I know there’s no quota but there seems to be something. Been a mad rush to D-I lately

I think 14 would be the standard for the P5. I think everyone else stays 10-12 per conference. Depending on how the Big 12 and PAC 12 expands determines the dominoes falling. Of course I'm assuming Texas and Oklahoma stay in the big 12.

There are only 5 conferences below 10:
Atlantic Sun, America East, WAC, Summit at 9 and Ivy at 8.
There are actually only 8 at 10 (Big 12, CAA, Horizaon, MVC, Patriot, Southern, SWAC and West Coast). The rest are bigger.

I don't see the Ivy ever expanding. It has been called the ancient 8 for a reason, although one never should say never.

Not likely. But should MIT and Johns Hopkins decide to move to Division I? They might decide to expand.
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This looks like it's just rehashing information from September.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-882130.html
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I mean, if they can get an invite to the NEC or, much less likely, AE then they shouldn't turn it down. That chance probably only comes around once and the NEC schools are the peers they'd want to keep up with. Not sure about some east coast-spanning ASUN scheme, though. That could become a financial pit.
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(02-10-2020 01:38 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(02-09-2020 10:48 PM)sctvman Wrote:  Hearing the University of New Haven got final internal approval to jump to Division I. Not sure of conference, but NEC (currently at 11 teams) seems most likely option.

This was predicted by a realignmentologist a half-decade ago:

(12-06-2015 04:25 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  New Haven NEC

Wow! Did he predict when? What other conferences could be a potential landing spot for a D2 college in Connecticut? What other colleges has he “predicted” to land in the NEC?
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Speaking of the Northeast Conference - how come Central Connecticut State is in the Northeast Conference and not America East Conference? They are the only public school in the Northeast Conference.
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(02-10-2020 01:14 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  Speaking of the Northeast Conference - how come Central Connecticut State is in the Northeast Conference and not America East Conference? They are the only public school in the Northeast Conference.

It was more muddled when CCSU went to D-I. When they elevated in the late 80's/early 90's, the (then) NAC had, or recently had, privates like Canisius, Niagara, Colgate, Northeastern, BU, Siena, Hartford, Drexel, and Hofstra. The conference wasn't the "Small Northeast Public" conference it is now.

CCSU initially joined the reformated East Coast Conference with fellow newcomers UMBC and Buffalo, plus existing Towson, Hofstra, and American. The conference later added Chicago State, Troy, and Northeastern Illinois. Shockingly, that didn't last long. Three more years in the absolute mess that was the Mid-Con (CCSU, Troy, Youngstown, Western Illinois, Valpo, Buffalo, Northeastern Illinois, Chicago State, UMKC, Southern Utah, Oral Roberts...). The NEC invite came at that point. CCSU wasn't the only public in the NEC in 1997, and the America East still had a fair few privates. It wasn't an automatic fit (plus the league was much better in basketball than CCSU was at that point).

Now, sure it might on paper make sense to flip/flop CCSU and Hartford but Hartford has been a good, longtime league citizen and no one is going to boot them. Also, CCSU has football. The NEC won't let you leave the all-sports conference and stay in football (see: Monmouth). AE doesn't offer football and CCSU sure as heck isn't getting into the CAA. So, with no real football options, CCSU is stuck.
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(02-10-2020 01:41 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  
(02-10-2020 01:14 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  Speaking of the Northeast Conference - how come Central Connecticut State is in the Northeast Conference and not America East Conference? They are the only public school in the Northeast Conference.

It was more muddled when CCSU went to D-I. When they elevated in the late 80's/early 90's, the (then) NAC had, or recently had, privates like Canisius, Niagara, Colgate, Northeastern, BU, Siena, Hartford, Drexel, and Hofstra. The conference wasn't the "Small Northeast Public" conference it is now.

CCSU initially joined the reformated East Coast Conference with fellow newcomers UMBC and Buffalo, plus existing Towson, Hofstra, and American. The conference later added Chicago State, Troy, and Northeastern Illinois. Shockingly, that didn't last long. Three more years in the absolute mess that was the Mid-Con (CCSU, Troy, Youngstown, Western Illinois, Valpo, Buffalo, Northeastern Illinois, Chicago State, UMKC, Southern Utah, Oral Roberts...). The NEC invite came at that point. CCSU wasn't the only public in the NEC in 1997, and the America East still had a fair few privates. It wasn't an automatic fit (plus the league was much better in basketball than CCSU was at that point).

Now, sure it might on paper make sense to flip/flop CCSU and Hartford but Hartford has been a good, longtime league citizen and no one is going to boot them. Also, CCSU has football. The NEC won't let you leave the all-sports conference and stay in football (see: Monmouth). AE doesn't offer football and CCSU sure as heck isn't getting into the CAA. So, with no real football options, CCSU is stuck.
Why doesn’t CCSU change their name to just “Connecticut State”? It would sound so much better.
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(02-10-2020 02:02 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(02-10-2020 01:41 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  
(02-10-2020 01:14 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  Speaking of the Northeast Conference - how come Central Connecticut State is in the Northeast Conference and not America East Conference? They are the only public school in the Northeast Conference.

It was more muddled when CCSU went to D-I. When they elevated in the late 80's/early 90's, the (then) NAC had, or recently had, privates like Canisius, Niagara, Colgate, Northeastern, BU, Siena, Hartford, Drexel, and Hofstra. The conference wasn't the "Small Northeast Public" conference it is now.

CCSU initially joined the reformated East Coast Conference with fellow newcomers UMBC and Buffalo, plus existing Towson, Hofstra, and American. The conference later added Chicago State, Troy, and Northeastern Illinois. Shockingly, that didn't last long. Three more years in the absolute mess that was the Mid-Con (CCSU, Troy, Youngstown, Western Illinois, Valpo, Buffalo, Northeastern Illinois, Chicago State, UMKC, Southern Utah, Oral Roberts...). The NEC invite came at that point. CCSU wasn't the only public in the NEC in 1997, and the America East still had a fair few privates. It wasn't an automatic fit (plus the league was much better in basketball than CCSU was at that point).

Now, sure it might on paper make sense to flip/flop CCSU and Hartford but Hartford has been a good, longtime league citizen and no one is going to boot them. Also, CCSU has football. The NEC won't let you leave the all-sports conference and stay in football (see: Monmouth). AE doesn't offer football and CCSU sure as heck isn't getting into the CAA. So, with no real football options, CCSU is stuck.
Why doesn’t CCSU change their name to just “Connecticut State”? It would sound so much better.

Central Connecticut State is part of the Connecticut State University System that also includes Southern Connecticut State, Eastern Connecticut State, and Western Connecticut State.
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