XFL game on and I checked the rosters. Pretty good MAC representation.

Dallas Renegades
NAME NUMBER POSITION COLLEGE

Jazz Ferguson 1 WR Northwestern State
Drew Galitz 2 P Baylor
Flynn Nagel 3 WR Northwestern
Eric Dungey 7 QB Syracuse
Austin MacGinnis 8 K Kentucky
Philip Nelson 9 QB East Carolina
Joshua Crockett 11 WR Central Oklahoma
Landry Jones 12 QB Oklahoma
Jeff Badet 13 WR Oklahoma
Jerrod Heard 16 WR Texas
Freddie Martino 18 WR North Greenville
Tenny Adewusi 20 S Delaware
Micah Abernathy 21 S Tennessee
Marquis Young 22 RB Massachusetts
Josh Thornton 23 CB Southern Utah
Treston Decoud 24 CB Oregon State
Lance Dunbar 25 RB North Texas
Donatello Brown 26 CB Valdosta Sate
Austin Walter 27 RB Rice
Josh Hawkins 28 CB East Carolina
Derron Smith 31 S Fresno State
Cameron Artis-Payne 34 RB Auburn
Tre Watson 40 LB Maryland
Dashaun Phillips 41 CB Tarleton State
Christian Kuntz 43 LB Duquesne
Hau'oli Kikaha 44 LB Washington
Doyin Jibowu 45 S Fort Hays State
Tegray Scales 46 LB Indiana
Tobenna Okeke 47 LB Fresno State
Greer Martini 48 LB Notre Dame
Donald Parham 49 TE Stetson
Reshard Cliett 50 LB South Florida
Ray Ray Davison 51 LB California
John Keenoy 52 OG Western Michigan
James Folston 55 LB Pittsburgh
Frank Alexander 57 DE Oklahoma
Asantay Brown 58 LB Western Michigan
Johnathan Calvin 59 LB Mississippi State
Maurquice Shakir 61 OG Middle Tennessee
Darius James 62 OT Auburn
Salesi Uhatafe 64 OG Utah
Alex Balducci 65 C Oregon
Josh Allen 66 OG UL Monroe
Willie Beavers 70 OT Western Michigan
Justin Evans 71 OT South Carolina State
Pace Murphy 77 OT Northwestern State
Sean Price 80 TE South Florida
Julian Allen 86 TE Southern Mississippi
Tomasi Laulile 91 DT BYU
Tony Guerad 93 DT UCF
Winston Craig 96 DE Richmond
Gelen Robinson 98 DE Purdue
D.C. Defenders
NAME NUMBER POSITION COLLEGE
DeAndre Thompkins 1 WR Penn State
Ty Rausa 2 K Boise State
Tyree Jackson 3 QB Buffalo
Eli Rogers 4 WR Louisville
Hunter Niswander 7 P Northwestern
Jalen Rowell 9 WR Air Force
Simmie Cobbs 10 WR Indiana
Cardale Jones 12 QB Ohio State
Rashad Ross 15 WR Arizona State
Tyler Palka 16 WR Gannon
Malachi Dupre 19 WR Louisiana State
Carlos Merritt 20 S Campbell
Doran Grant 21 CB Ohio State
Matt Elam 22 S Florida
Jalen Myrick 23 CB Minnesota
Donnel Pumphrey 24 RB San Diego State
Desmond Lawrence 25 CB North Carolina
Jhurell Pressley 26 RB New Mexico
Elijah Campbell 28 CB Northern Iowa
Tyree Kinnel 29 S Michigan
Bradley Sylve 30 CB Alabama
Nick Brossette 31 RB Louisiana State
Khalid Abdullah 32 RB James Madison
Shamarko Thomas 38 S Syracuse
Brian Khoury 42 DE Carnegie Mellon
Dorian Johnson 51 OG Pittsburgh
Jonathan Celestin 52 LB Minnesota
Jameer Thurman 53 LB Indiana State
Jonathan Massaquoi 54 LB Troy
Antwione Williams 55 LB Georgia Southern
KeShun Freeman 56 DE Georgia Tech
Scooby Wright 58 LB Arizona
A.J. Tarpley 59 LB Stanford
Jon Toth 64 C Kentucky
Cole Boozer 69 OT Temple
Logan Tuley-Tillman 72 OT Texas El-Paso
Rishard Cook 74 OG UAB
Chris Brown 75 OG Southern California
James O'Hagan 77 C Buffalo
Malcolm Bunche 78 OT UCLA
De'Ondre Wesley 79 OT BYU
Donnie Ernsberger 80 TE Western Michigan
Derrick Hayward 85 TE Maryland
Khari Lee 86 TE Bowie State
Siupeli Anau 90 DT Northern Arizona
Tavaris Barnes 91 DE Clemson
Elijah Qualls 92 DT Washington
Tracy Sprinkle 93 DT Ohio State
Kalani Vakameilalo 94 DT Oregon State
Kenny Bigelow 95 DT West Virginia
Jay Bromley 96 DT Syracuse
Sam Montgomery 99 DE Louisiana State
Houston Roughnecks
NAME NUMBER POSITION COLLEGE
Kahlil Lewis 1 WR Cincinnati
Sam Mobley 3 WR Catawba
Austin Rehkow 5 P Idaho
Sergio Castillo 7 K West Texas A&M
Sammie Coates 10 WR Auburn
P.J. Walker 11 QB Temple
Ray Bolden 13 WR Stony Brook
Cam Phillips 14 WR Virginia Tech
Ryheem Malone 15 WR Louisiana-Lafayette
Blake Jackson 17 WR Mary Hardin-Baylor
Connor Cook 18 QB Michigan State
Marqueston Huff 20 S Wyoming
Charles James 21 CB Charleston Southern
Corrian Ballard 22 S Utah
Trae Elston 23 S Mississippi
Cody Brown 25 S Arkansas State
Saivion Smith 26 CB Alabama
Ajene Harris 27 CB USC
James Butler 28 RB Nevada/Iowa
De'Angelo Henderson 29 RB Coastal Carolina
Deji Olatoye 30 CB North Carolina A&T
Deatrick Nichols 32 CB South Carolina
Nick Holley 33 RB Kent State
Ty Schwab 40 LB Boston College
Jeremiah Johnson 41 CB Concord
Beniquez Brown 42 LB Mississippi State
Carl Bradford 43 LB Arizona State
Andre Williams 44 RB Boston College
DeMarquis Gates 47 LB Mississippi
Kaelin Burnett 50 LB Nevada
Edmond Robinson 51 LB Newberry
Drew Williams 53 LB Colorado
LaTroy Lewis 54 LB Tennessee
Tejan Koroma 56 OL Brigham Young
Colton Taylor 58 LS Virginia Tech
Vantrell McMillian 59 DL Chattanooga
Toby Weathersby 60 OL LSU
Demetrius Rhaney 65 OL Tennessee State
Marquez Taylor 66 OL Southern Utah
Isame Faciane 69 OL Florida International
Sebastian Tretola 73 OL Arkansas
Avery Gennesy 74 OL Texas A&M
Juwann Bushell-Beatty 76 OL Michigan
Kevin Palmer 77 OL Baylor
Terry Poole 79 OL San Diego State
Johnny Maxey 90 DE Mars Hill
Caushaud Lyons 91 DL Tusculum
Corey Crawford 93 DE Clemson
Kony Ealy 94 DE Missouri
Walter Palmore 96 DL Missouri
Gabe Wright 97 DL Auburn
Nick James 98 DL Mississippi State
Los Angeles Wildcats
NAME NUMBER POSITION COLLEGE
Jalan McClendon 2 QB Baylor
Chad Kanoff 3 QB Princeton
Colton Schmidt 6 P California-Davis
Josh Johnson 8 QB San Diego
Nick Novak 9 K Maryland
Kermit Whitfield 10 WR Florida State
Nelson Spruce 11 WR Colorado
Tre McBride 15 WR William & Mary
Jalen Greene 17 WR Utah State
Adonis Jennings 18 WR Temple
Jaylen Dunlap 20 CB Illinois
Mar'Sean Diggs 21 S Alabama-Birmingham
Jerome Couplin 22 S William & Mary
Mike Stevens 23 CB North Carolina State
Larry Rose 24 RB New Mexico State
Roman Tatum 25 CB Southern Illinois
Arrion Springs 26 CB Oregon
Harlan Miller 27 CB Southeast Louisiana
Martez Carter 28 RB Grambling State
Jack Tocho 29 S North Carolina State
LaDarius Wiley 32 S Vanderbilt
Dujuan Harris 33 RB Troy
Elijah Hood 34 RB North Carolina
Ahmad Dixon 36 S Baylor
Willie Mays 44 LB Tiffin
Ryan Navarro 45 LS Oregon State
Quentin Gause 50 LB Rutgers
Tre' Williams 52 LB Auburn
Taiwan Jones 54 LB Michigan State
Nico Siragusa 56 OG San Diego State
Will Smith 57 LB Texas Tech
Fred Lauina 59 OG Oregon State
Dwayne Wallace 62 OT Kansas
Patrick Vahe 66 OG Texas
Kahlil McKenzie 70 OG Tennessee
Storm Norton 72 OT Toledo
Jaelin Robinson 73 OT Temple
Tyler Roemer 74 OT San Diego State
Lene Maiava 75 OT Arizona
Shawn Oakman 77 DE Baylor
Saeed Blacknall 80 WR Penn State
Brandon Barnes 82 TE Alabama State
Jordan Smallwood 84 WR Oklahoma
De'Quan Hampton 88 WR Southern California
Roderick Henderson 90 DE Baylor
Boogie Roberts 91 DT San Jose State
Trevon Sanders 93 DT Troy
Cedric Reed 94 DE Texas
Montori Hughes 95 DT Tennessee-Martin
Anthony Johnson 96 LB Louisiana State
Devi Taylor 98 DE South Carolina
Latarius Brady 99 DT Memphis
New York Guardians
NAME NUMBER POSITION COLLEGE
Mekale McKay 1 WR Cincinnati
Joe Horn 2 WR Missouri Western
Colby Pearson 3 WR Brigham Young
Luis Perez 7 QB Texas A&M Commerce
Justin Vogel 8 P Miami (FL)
Teo Redding 9 WR Bowling Green
Austin Duke 10 WR Charlotte
Marquise Williams 12 QB North Carolina
Matt McGloin 14 QB Penn State
Matthew McCrane 16 K Kansas State
Justice Liggins 17 WR Stephen F. Austin
Tim Cook III 20 RB Oregon State
Jamar Summers 21 CB Connecticut
Dravon Askew-Henry 22 S West Virginia
Justin Stockton 23 RB Texas Tech
Ranthony Taxada II 24 CB Texas Christian
DeJuan Neal 26 CB Shephard
Darius Victor 27 RB Towson
Wesley Sutton 28 S Northern Arizona
Bryce Jones 29 CB Akron
Andrew Soroh 30 S Florida Atlantic
Terrence Alexander 31 CB Louisiana State
A.J. Hendy 33 S Maryland
Matthew Cobern II 34 RB Wake Forest
Demetrious Cox 36 S Michigan State
Scott Daly 42 LS Notre Dame
Ryan Mueller 44 LB Kansas State
D'Juan Hines 45 LB Houston
Frank Ginda 47 LB San Jose State
Jawuan Johnson 48 LB Texas Christian
Nick DeLuca 49 LB North Dakota State
Charles Wright 55 DE Vanderbilt
Ben Heeney 56 LB Kansas
Bunmi Rotimi Jr. 58 DE Old Dominion
Garret Dooley 59 LB Wisconsin
Garrett Brumfield 68 C Louisiana State
Ian Silberman 69 C Boston College
John Kling IV 70 T Buffalo
Brant Weiss 71 T Toledo
Avery Young 73 OL Auburn
Jarron Jones 74 T Notre Dame
Damien Mama 77 G USC
Anthony Coyle 78 G Fordham
Jake Sutherland 83 TE Morehead State
Keenen Brown 85 TE Texas State
Jake Powell 87 TE Monmouth (NJ)
EJ Bibbs 88 TE Iowa State
Jarrell Owens 91 DE Oklahoma State
TJ Barnes 93 DT Georgia Tech
Joey Mbu 94 DT Houston
Toby Johnson Jr. 95 DT Georgia
Cavon Walker 99 DT Maryland
Seattle Dragons
NAME NUMBER POSITION COLLEGE
Kasen Williams 2 WR Washington
B.J. Daniels 7 QB South Florida
Brock Miller 9 P Southern Utah
John Santiago 10 WR North Dakota
Sergio Bailey 11 WR Eastern Michigan
Brandon Silvers 12 QB Troy
Austin Proehl 13 WR North Carolina
Alonzo Moore 14 WR Nebraska
Dontez Byrd 16 WR Tennessee Tech
Keenan Reynolds 19 WR Navy
Kenneth Farrow 20 RB Houston
Mohammed Seisay 21 CB Nebraska
Trey Williams 23 RB TexasA&M
Marko Myers 24 CB Southeastern
Steve Williams 25 CB Cal
Johnathan Alston 27 CB NC State
Channing Stribling 30 CB Michigan
Ja'Quan Gardner 31 RB Humboldt State
Tyson Graham 32 S South Dakota
Jordan Martin 33 S Syracuse
Jeremy Clark 34 CB Michigan
Godwin Igwebuike 35 S Northwestern
Santos Ramirez 39 S Arkansas
Noah Borden 41 LS Hawaii
Dillon Day 50 C Mississippi State
Praise Martin-Oguike 51 DE Temple
Kyle Queiro 52 LB Northwestern
Nick Temple 55 LB Cincinnati
Nyles Morgan 56 LB Notre Dame
Marcel Frazier 57 DE Missouri
Steven Johnson 59 LB Kanssas
Cyril Richardson 68 G Baylor
William Campbell 69 G Michigan
Anthony Moten 72 DT Miami (FL)
Kirk Barron 73 C Purdue
Venzell Boulware 75 G Tennessee
Michael Dunn 76 T Maryland
Quinterrius Eatmon 77 T South Florida
Isaiah Battle 79 T Clemson
Colin Jeter 81 TE LSU
Ben Johnson 84 TE Kansas
Cam Clear 85 TE Texas A&M
Evan Rodriguez 88 TE Temple
Connor Hamlett 89 TE Oregon State
Stansly Maponga 90 DE TCU
Anthony Johnson 91 DE FIU
Durrant Miles 92 DE Boise State
Will Sutton 93 DT Arizona State
Pasoni Tasini 94 DT Utah
Jacquies Smith 97 DE Missouri
Jordan Thompson 99 DT Northwestern
St. Louis BattleHawks
NAME NUMBER POSITION COLLEGE
Jake Payne 0 DT Shenandoah
L'Damian Washington 2 WR Missouri
Nick Fitzgerald 4 QB Mississippi State
Taylor Russolino 5 K Millsaps
Taylor Heinicke 6 QB Old Dominion
Marquette King 7 P Fort Valley State
Jordan Ta'amu 10 QB Ole Miss
Carlton 14 WR Rutgers
De'Mornay Pierson-El 15 WR Indiana
Keith Mumphery 17 WR Michigan State
Lenard Tillery 20 RB Southern
Harold Jones-Quartey 21 DB Findlay
Kenny Robinson 23 S West Virginia
Ryan White 22 CB Auburn
Matt Jones 24 RB Florida
Will Hill 25 S Florida
Dexter McCoil 26 S Tulsa
Robert Nelson 28 CB Arizona State
David Rivers 29 CB Youngstown State
Tre Caldwell 31 CB Louisiana-Monroe
Christine Michael 33 RB Texas A&M
D'Montre Wade 35 CB Murray State
Keith Ford 36 RB Texas A&M
Darius Hillary 41 DB Wisconsin
Shaq Jones 42 DE UAB
Joe Powell 44 DB Globe Tech
Tanner Carew 48 LS Oregon
Gimel President 53 DE Illinois
Dewayne Hendrix 54 DL Pitt
Andrew Ankrah 55 DE James Madison
Ro'Derrick Hoskins 56 LB Florida State
Terence Garvin 57 LB West Virginia
Steve Beauharnais 58 LB Rutgers
Bruno Reagan 61 T Vanderbilt
Michael Miller 64 G Washburn
Dejon Allen 66 G Hawaii
Brian Folkerts 67 G Washburn
Andrew McDonald 69 T Indiana
Jake Campos 72 G Iowa State
Matt McCants 73 T UAB
Brian Wallace 75 OL Arkansas
Kent Perkins 76 T Texas
Cole Hunt 82 TE TCU
Wes Saxton 83 TE South Alabama
Alonzo Russell 84 WR Toledo
Marcus Lucas 85 WR Missouri
Brandon Reilly 87 WR Nebraska
Casey Sayles 90 DT Ohio
Kellen Soulek 94 DT South Dakota State
Channing Ward 95 DT Ole Miss
Davonte Lambert 96 DT Auburn
Tampa Bay Vipers
NAME NUMBER POSITION COLLEGE
Andrew Franks 3 K Rensselaer Polytechnic
Taylor Cornelius 4 QB Oklahoma State
Chase Litton 8 QB Marshall
Quinton Flowers 9 QB/RB South Florida
Jake Schum 10 P Buffalo
Aaron Murray 11 QB Georgia
Donteea Dye 13 WR Heidelberg
Stacy Coley 14 WR MIami (FL)
Seantavius Jones 15 WR Valdosta State
Jalen Tolliver 17 WR Arkansas-Monticello
Reece Horn 18 WR Indianapolis
Tanner McEvoy 19 WR Wisconsin
Tarvarus McFadden 20 DB Florida State
Robert Priester 21 S Wyoming
Rannell Hall 22 DB UCF
Anthoula Kelly 23 DB Fresno State
De'Veon Smith 24 RB Michigan
Micah Hannemann 27 S BYU
Bryce Canady 28 CB FIU
Jacques Patrick 29 RB Florida State
Demontre Hurst 30 CB Oklahoma
Corey Moore 31 DB Georgia
Jalen Collins 32 CB LSU
Shelton Lewis 33 CB FAU
Mack Brown 34 RB Florida
Marcelis Branch 35 S Robert Morris
Terrance Plummer 41 LB UCF
Nick Moore 42 LS Georgia
Emmanuel Beal 43 LB Oklahoma
Lucas Wacha 45 LB Wyoming
Nikita Whitlock 49 DT Wake Forest
John Yarbrough 50 C Richmond
Deiontrez Mount 53 DE Louisville
Ike Spearman 56 LB Eastern Michigan
Jordan McCray 63 C UCF
Jerald Foster 67 G Nebraska
Isaiah Williams 71 T Akron
Martez Ivey 73 T Florida
Andrew Tiller 75 G Syracuse
Daronte Bouldin 76 G Ole Miss
Marquis Lucas 78 T West Virginia
DeAndre Goolsby 80 TE Florida
Daniel Williams 81 WR Jackson State
Ryan Davis 83 WR Auburn
Nick Truesdell 85 TE Grand Rapids JUCO
Colin Thompson 86 TE Temple
Bobby Richardson 91 DE Indiana
Josh Banks 92 DT Wake Forest
CeCe Jefferson 95 DE Florida
Jason Neill 96 DE UTSA
Ricky Walker 97 DT Virginia Tech

I got 15, 4 from Buffalo, 3 from WM and Toledo, 2 from EMU, and 1 from GB, OU, and AU.

Akron - Isaiah Williams TB, Bryce Jones NY
BG - Teo Redding NY
Buff - Tyree Jackson DC, Jake Schum TB, John Kling IV NY, James O'Hagan DC
EMU - Sergio Bailey SEA, Ike Spearman TB
KSU - Nick Holley HOU
OU - Casey Sayles STL
UT - Storm Norton LA, Brant Weiss NY, Alonzo Russell STL
WMU - John Keenoy DAL, Asantay Brown DAL, Willie Beavers DAL, Donnie Ernsberger DC

So my question is when is Ohio getting a team? For the DC-Seattle game Cleveland and Columbus came in 2nd and 3rd in ratings. Imagine the numbers the XFL would have pulled had that team been in Columbus or Cleveland.

https://i.redd.it/31xoxv6kozf41.jpg

(02-10-2020 10:59 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  So my question is when is Ohio getting a team? For the DC-Seattle game Cleveland and Columbus came in 2nd and 3rd in ratings. Imagine the numbers the XFL would have pulled had that team been in Columbus or Cleveland.

https://i.redd.it/31xoxv6kozf41.jpg

The XFL has three Buckeyes, all play for DC, including the QB Cordale Jones... That explains the ratings.

In MAC news, Alonzo Russel with a TD for STL

(02-10-2020 10:59 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  So my question is when is Ohio getting a team? For the DC-Seattle game Cleveland and Columbus came in 2nd and 3rd in ratings. Imagine the numbers the XFL would have pulled had that team been in Columbus or Cleveland.

https://i.redd.it/31xoxv6kozf41.jpg

Can they dome the stadium in Canton?

Remember Saturday was FEBRUARY 8.

(02-10-2020 02:43 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 10:59 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  So my question is when is Ohio getting a team? For the DC-Seattle game Cleveland and Columbus came in 2nd and 3rd in ratings. Imagine the numbers the XFL would have pulled had that team been in Columbus or Cleveland.

https://i.redd.it/31xoxv6kozf41.jpg

Can they dome the stadium in Canton?

Remember Saturday was FEBRUARY 8.

Remember they have a team in New York, which is pretty close to the climate Columbus has. Also, the NFL is talking about adding a 17th week to the schedule and a second bye week. The would push the Superbowl to mid-February meaning the XFL wouldn't start until near the end of February with the heart of the season being in March and April.

(02-10-2020 03:17 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 02:43 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 10:59 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  So my question is when is Ohio getting a team? For the DC-Seattle game Cleveland and Columbus came in 2nd and 3rd in ratings. Imagine the numbers the XFL would have pulled had that team been in Columbus or Cleveland.

https://i.redd.it/31xoxv6kozf41.jpg

Can they dome the stadium in Canton?

Remember Saturday was FEBRUARY 8.

Remember they have a team in New York, which is pretty close to the climate Columbus has. Also, the NFL is talking about adding a 17th week to the schedule and a second bye week. The would push the Superbowl to mid-February meaning the XFL wouldn't start until near the end of February with the heart of the season being in March and April.

As I read Accuweather:

On Feb 8, average highs/lows: D.C 46/28. NYC 40/28 and Canton 35/20.

Quite frankly, if N.Y. wasn't N.Y., I wouldn't put a team in that climate.

D.C. is as far as I would go. By late Feb. D.C.'s average high will be 50.

P.S. I think if the schedule is moved back a couple weeks that would be a good thing for the XFL.

P.S. II: Although some will disagree if the NFL adds TWO WEEKS to the schedule, please start it on Labor Day weekend.

(02-10-2020 05:20 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 03:17 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 02:43 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 10:59 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  So my question is when is Ohio getting a team? For the DC-Seattle game Cleveland and Columbus came in 2nd and 3rd in ratings. Imagine the numbers the XFL would have pulled had that team been in Columbus or Cleveland.

https://i.redd.it/31xoxv6kozf41.jpg

Can they dome the stadium in Canton? :lmfao:

Remember Saturday was FEBRUARY 8.

Remember they have a team in New York, which is pretty close to the climate Columbus has. Also, the NFL is talking about adding a 17th week to the schedule and a second bye week. The would push the Superbowl to mid-February meaning the XFL wouldn't start until near the end of February with the heart of the season being in March and April.

As I read Accuweather:

On Feb 8, average highs/lows: D.C 46/28. NYC 40/28 and Canton 35/20.

Quite frankly, if N.Y. wasn't N.Y., I wouldn't put a team in that climate.

D.C. is as far as I would go. By late Feb. D.C.'s average high will be 50.

P.S. I think if the schedule is moved back a couple weeks that would be a good thing for the XFL.

P.S. II: Although some will disagree if the NFL adds TWO WEEKS to the schedule, please start it on Labor Day weekend.

Canton is too small of a city to get a team. If climate is the concern, Columbus would be the city. The weather is pretty much the exact same as NY. The average high/low is 39/24 for February 8th. February 8th is also pretty much the earliest a season would ever start. Next year opening day will be the 13th.

Expansion, if it ever happens, is years away. I'm expecting the NFL to expand their season before then.

Apparently an XFL team already fired it's DC after week one.

Northwest Ohio is represented pretty well. In addition to the three from Toledo and Redding from BG, there's a dude from Findlay in the league, as well as one each from Tiffin University and Heidelberg College. Interestingly, or maybe not, Tiffin and Heidelberg are both located in Tiffin, Ohio. So the town of Tiffin put more players in the XFL than BG and most other MAC schools. Test that drinking water...

(02-10-2020 10:59 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  So my question is when is Ohio getting a team? For the DC-Seattle game Cleveland and Columbus came in 2nd and 3rd in ratings. Imagine the numbers the XFL would have pulled had that team been in Columbus or Cleveland.

https://i.redd.it/31xoxv6kozf41.jpg

My guess is that Ohio will never get an XFL team simply because the likelihood of the XFL existing past this year is so low.

(02-10-2020 08:10 PM)bg816 Wrote:  My guess is that Ohio will never get an XFL team simply because the likelihood of the XFL existing past this year is so low.

Seeing that the XFL have their games showing on 4 channels (ESPN, ABC, Fox, FS1) and averaged around 20,000 for the 4 games this week, and Vince's WWE $, I would say they have a chance to have a 2nd year.

Yeah, I read year 1 is going to cost $125-150 million. Even with 20k attendance × 43 games × $50 average ticket price, that's only $43 million in ticket revenue. Sure the league has some other minor sponsorship deals, but nowhere enough to make up that deficit.

How long the league survives entirely depends on how much cash Vince is willing to burn to hold out for a decent TV deal and if that deal ever gets offered.

(02-11-2020 12:09 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  Yeah, I read year 1 is going to cost $125-150 million. Even with 20k attendance × 43 games × $50 average ticket price, that's only $43 million in ticket revenue. Sure the league has some other minor sponsorship deals, but nowhere enough to make up that deficit.

How long the league survives entirely depends on how much cash Vince is willing to burn to hold out for a decent TV deal and if that deal ever gets offered.

I know it's not my money, but if the XFL loses between 50 - 75M this year that isn't bad.

I don't know the numbers, but some pro teams can easily lose what 50% or more of that in a year.

I always maintained, if anyone in pro sports needs to turn a profit, they are in the wrong business. Better to take those millions and invest elsewhere, including the stock market.

(02-11-2020 07:10 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 12:09 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  Yeah, I read year 1 is going to cost $125-150 million. Even with 20k attendance × 43 games × $50 average ticket price, that's only $43 million in ticket revenue. Sure the league has some other minor sponsorship deals, but nowhere enough to make up that deficit.

How long the league survives entirely depends on how much cash Vince is willing to burn to hold out for a decent TV deal and if that deal ever gets offered.

I know it's not my money, but if the XFL loses between 50 - 75M this year that isn't bad.

I don't know the numbers, but some pro teams can easily lose what 50% or more of that in a year.

I always maintained, if anyone in pro sports needs to turn a profit, they are in the wrong business. Better to take those millions and invest elsewhere, including the stock market.

Time will tell whether the league has staying power. I will say that MLS would kill for these 2-3.5 million TV viewers and ESPN still cuts them a check for $75 million/year. That same TV deal for XFL would bring it close to break even.

PS: It should be noted that the MLS TV deal does include rights for US national team friendlies so that does inflate the MLS deal some. MLS games typically average between 250k-300k viewers.

Edit: I feel pro sports is more profitable then owners like to lead on. Crying poor is how they get taxpayers to fund their stadiums and how they can put themselves in a better bargaining position against players. The people buying these teams are some of the most successful businessmen in the world. They aren't just going to throw good money after bad. Sure there are some teams operating in the red for periods of time, particularly when they're in a title window, but I'd venture to guess the vast majority of teams in the NBA/MLB/NFL turn profits.

I thought the point of this league was guaranteed staying power, and a three year contract... Opposed to the AAF which folded close to playoff time.

I think the teams are in large enough cities that they will start to draw better. Plus 4 teams haven't had a chance to show off their fans yet.

If San Antonio could average 30,000 through not as much of media attention and 9 games or whatever, so can DC or STL.

Most feedback has been positive outside of the announcer slip ups and cursing by the players caught on mic.

Few things

1. I really enjoyed watching the games this past weekend.

2. I think Columbus would be a perfect market for a team, but yes weather is enough. It is going to be so important for these cold weather teams to get off to a strong start and build a fanbase. You can add Seattle into that discussion. And I think they are picked to finish in last.

3. Pretty sure Vince put aside enough money to keep it afloat for 3 years.

4. If you watch the XFL 30 for 30, there is no way Vince will let it die after one year.

(02-11-2020 10:39 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I thought the point of this league was guaranteed staying power, and a three year contract... Opposed to the AAF which folded close to playoff time.

I think the teams are in large enough cities that they will start to draw better. Plus 4 teams haven't had a chance to show off their fans yet.

If San Antonio could average 30,000 through not as much of media attention and 9 games or whatever, so can DC or STL.

Most feedback has been positive outside of the announcer slip ups and cursing by the players caught on mic.

DC plays in a 20k seat stadium so it's not feasible possible for them to average 30k . Other than that I agree.

I also wish more soccer stadiums were utilized, like in New York and Dallas.