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RE: Grace Forbes - Track and Field
(02-28-2020 07:07 PM)InterestedX Wrote:  8:56.82!!!

#10 all-time US collegian, I think
First of all: 04-jawdrop

8:56.82 would be 19th on this USTFCCCA list. If by top 10 US collegian you meant American runners, that could very well be the case as there are several foreign athletes from #s 4-18.

Women's 3000 Meters
ATHLETE INSTITUTION MARK DATE
UNOFFICIAL Top 25 Performers and Performances
(1) Karissa SCHWEIZERSR Missouri Missouri 8:41.60 b 2/3/2018
last 200: 32.22, last 400: 65.65, last 800: 2:14.15; 400s: 69.13 (34.12), 71.63, 72.10, 69.80, 70.03, 69.44, 67.30, 32.22
(2) Jenny BARRINGERJR Colorado Colorado 8:42.03 3/14/2009
30.74, 63.54, 2:12.76 … 400s: (34.99) 70.92, 70.69, 70.66, 70.77, 71.38, 69.35, 67.52, 30.74
(3) Alicia MONSONJR Wisconsin Wisconsin 8:45.97 b 2/9/2019
last lap: 34.10
(4) Sally KIPYEGOSR Texas Tech Texas Tech 8:48.77 b 2/7/2009
(5) Kim SMITHSR Providence Providence 8:49.18 3/13/2004
(6) Abbey D'AGOSTINOSR Dartmouth Dartmouth 8:51.91 2/15/2014
(7) Emily SISSONSR Providence Providence 8:52.60 b 2/14/2015
(8) Kate AVERYJR Iona Iona 8:53.12 2/14/2015
— Schweizer {2}SR Missouri Missouri 8:53.36 3/10/2018
32.94, 67.77, 2:18.34, 4:37.64
(9) PattiSue PLUMER Stanford Stanford 8:53.54 2/27/1983
— Monson {2}SR Wisconsin Wisconsin 8:53.69 2/8/2020
(10) Weini KELATISO New Mexico New Mexico 8:53.98 b 2/9/2019
(11) Allie OSTRANDERSO Boise State Boise State 8:54.35 3/10/2018
33.70, 68.44, 2:19.08, 4:38.76
— Kelati {2}JR New Mexico New Mexico 8:54.66 2/8/2020
(12) Stephanie HERBST Wisconsin Wisconsin 8:54.98 3/15/1986
(13) Dominique SCOTT EFURD Arkansas Arkansas 8:55.19 3/14/2015
33.44, 65.87, 2:14.68
(14) Vicki HUBERSR Villanova Villanova 8:55.29 3/11/1989
(15) Elinor PURRIERSR New Hampshire New Hampshire 8:55.68 b 12/2/2017
(16) Margaret GROOS Virginia Virginia 8:55.6h 2/27/1981
— Smith {2}SR Providence Providence 8:55.88 2/22/2004
— Avery {2} Iona Iona 8:56.20 2/15/2014
(17) Susan KUIJKENSR Florida State Florida State 8:56.27 3/14/2009
(18) Lucy VAN DALEN Stony Brook Stony Brook 8:56.77 2/12/2011
(19) Sheila REID Villanova Villanova 8:56.92 1/29/2011
(20) Angela BIZZARRI Illinois Illinois 8:57.40 3/13/2010
(21) Lisa KOLLSR Iowa State Iowa State 8:57.52 3/13/2010
(22) Molly SEIDELJR Notre Dame Notre Dame 8:57.86 b 3/12/2016
— Kuijken {2}JR Florida State Florida State 8:58.14 3/15/2008
(23) Christine MCMIKEN Oklahoma State Oklahoma State 8:58.68 3/9/1985
(24) Erin FINNSR Michigan Michigan 8:58.69 b 1/20/2018
(25) Kay GOOCH Oklahoma Oklahoma 8:58.85 3/12/1994
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I meant exactly what I wrote.

Marks made on oversize tracks (i.e. Washington) are listed separately.

Forbes is not a junior athlete (U20) anymore, as she was born in 2000.
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Do you know when her birthday is? That's kind of a silly rule that U20 means you can't turn 20 at any point during the year, so a 19-year-old with a December birthday for example isn't considered U20. But I guess that's the rule, and if she has a 2000 birthdate, then she's not eligible for the 2020 World Athletics U20 Championships this summer.
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(02-28-2020 08:52 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Do you know when her birthday is? That's kind of a silly rule that U20 means you can't turn 20 at any point during the year, so a 19-year-old with a December birthday for example isn't considered U20. But I guess that's the rule, and if she has a 2000 birthdate, then she's not eligible for the 2020 World Athletics U20 Championships this summer.

I just know she was born in 2000. You're right that she will not be eligible for the World U20 meet in Kenya this summer.

Spectacular performance!
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Runner A: born on December 31, 2000

Runner B: born the next day.

Runner B is a "junior" for the entire year.

Runner A will be 19 for 365 days (leap year), but is not a "junior".

Idiotic rule.
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Just to clarify something I addressed in another thread: the record that Grace broke was 9:05.66 set by my friend Katie Jensen in 2017.
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I was looking at page 16 of the latest Rice track and field record book when I said the record was Pam Klassen's 9:11.32 time. Oh well, doesn't matter - she shattered both times.

https://riceowls.com/documents/2020/1/16...ctbook.pdf
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(02-28-2020 07:48 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  We bad-mouth the current state of the Rice athletic program but the fact of the matter is we currently have the best volleyball player in school history (Nicole Lennon), either the best or maybe 2nd-best women's basketball player ever (Erica Ogwumike) and now it's pretty obvious the #1 distance runner in school history.

+1. We've obviously become a very sought-after university for women.
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(02-28-2020 05:06 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:   Michelle Fokam will compete in New York City tomorrow (Leap Year Invitational) in the triple jump. She's #12 now at 13.32 meters (43' 8½").

Michelle won Saturday with 12.68 meters (41' 7.25").

https://www.tfrrs.org/results/64745/3983...iple_Jump/
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BTW I saw Jim Bevan and congratulated him at the women's game for their conference title. I asked him about Forbes' date of birth - it's October, 2000.
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(02-29-2020 12:24 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  Runner A: born on December 31, 2000

Runner B: born the next day.

Runner B is a "junior" for the entire year.

Runner A will be 19 for 365 days (leap year), but is not a "junior".

Idiotic rule.

I don't like this way of doing things either, but I struggle to come up with a viable alternative. A good friend of mine has a young son who plays baseball each season (fall and spring), but his birthday is one day before the cutoff (the equivalent of your Runner A) and thus is always the youngest player in his age division.

I remember one chapter of Freakonomics that mentioned the fact that junior hockey teams in Europe and Russia were dominated by January birthdays, and January 1 was the cutoff for determining a player's age. The author posited (very plausibly, in my view) that at a young age the players were sorted into birth-year brackets, and the younger the age the more those extra months of physical development and training matter. Such effects would compound over the years, leading to a high concentration of January birthdays by the time these players were teenagers.
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