EverRespect
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RE: UTSA
(02-07-2020 02:57 PM)RoanokeMonarch Wrote: (02-07-2020 02:36 PM)EverRespect Wrote: (02-07-2020 01:42 PM)monarx Wrote: (02-07-2020 01:32 PM)odu09 Wrote: I'm not sure where the list monarx came up with came from, but here are my own rankings of schools in Virginia. Where do you think we fall on this list? A small bit of history along with current standings.
1. Virginia - National Champs.
2. VCU - 16 NCAAT appearances with 13 victories. 5th in A10 with a victory over ODU.
3. VT - 9 NCAAT appearances (3 in the last 3 years) and 6 victories (2 last year). 14-9 and mid/low tier ACC. I could see them being #2.
4. Liberty - won a NCAAT game last year, went to NCAAT in 2013, currently 22-3 and tied 1st place in ASUN
5. ODU - 11 NCAAT appearances with 3 victories, appearance last year. 9-15 and mid/low CUSA.
6. Richmond - 9 NCAAT appearances with 8 victories (last appearance 2011). 5th in A10 with a victory over ODU. I could see them being #5.
7. GMU - 6 NCAAT appearances, 5 games won, last appearance 2011. 13-9 and 11th in A10.
8. Radford - 3 NCAAT appearances, most recent 2018. 2nd in Big South.
9. W&M - recently announced a ~$50M renovation to their arena. 16-9, tied for 3rd in CAA. Has a victory over ODU.
10. NSU - 1 NCAAT appearance 2012, 1 win. 2nd in MEAC.
11. JMU - 5 NCAAT appearances, 4 wins (most recent win was play-in game, no wins since 83). Building a new arena. 9-14 with a victory over ODU. Tied last in CAA.
12/13/14. Hampton/Longwood/VMI
If you see something egregious or if I missed something, let me know. Should I have started a new thread?
My list included old conference mates and UCF that was in the TAAC while ODU was beating Villanova. This list kind of proves my point. Historically we have usually been the third (and sometimes the best) team in Virginia. Now we are arguably in the 6-9 range. That is why people are upset. Teams we used to dominate are passing us by, and teams we used to be equal to are now considered superior. Thats very frustrating. Doesnt mean I don't enjoy the games, cheer on the team, want the coach to win or support the guys.
I don't really care where everyone else is. I am honestly happy for Liberty, Radford, and W&M for starting to become good and somewhat admire VCU for turning their 2 week string of luck 9 years ago into an annual tournament team and occasional appearance in the polls. I'd just like to see us as one of the better midmajors again and have the excitement and atmosphere we used to have. I want to know that we at least have a chance to make the tournament AND do some damage. Want to get back to watching polls, even if we are just "receiving votes", tracking bracketology, and getting into a lot of basketball games I otherwise wouldn't care about because the outcome affects out metrics and standing on or off the bubble. It is frustrating that nobody at the AD seems to care, none of the students seem to care, the media hacks don't care, nor does anyone else aside from the maybe 50 of us that post here. Even when we win the conference like last year, nobody cares. That was the most anti-climactic conference race, championship, and tournament appearance, I've ever witnessed. Just want to be relevant. I get that we have football, but that wasn't supposed to mean leaving basketball hanging out to dry.
I so agree with you Ever. One can argue whether Taylor had better teams or didn’t. But, with me, those were very exciting years. Most every season, we had hope of making the tourney and maybe even an at large. Once Jones arrived, the annual excitement left. Part is his slow style of play, part is poor recruiting, part is there is no excitement within the program. Seeing the large and loud student turnout disappear is a prime example. Part of that is on a Jones, part on the Admin doesn’t think an engaged student body is important.
I drive over 4 hours to watch our student athletes compete. I was there last night, will be there tomorrow night too. But, am I excited as I was during the Taylor years, not even close. We had hope then and felt we were building something special. Certainly not anymore....
As I said earlier, I've been there when there lines formed around the Ted an hour before the game, when you couldn't get into any of the bars and restaurants in University Village and even pregaming as far as Ghent it were packed with people in ODU gear. When games actually sold out. When the university provided entertainment inside and outside of the Ted. When ODU basketball made it to general conversation in the office everyday.
Blaine was certainly much more engaging, but creating that atmosphere cost money. Dr. Runte saw the value in spending it and I am guessing Broderick doesn't. Our was it Jarret spending it and Selig not? I don't know, but I don't necessarily blame JJ for the culture rot.
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