(02-07-2020 10:58 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:53 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:08 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  If you think about growth both of those schools have potential and explode with the AAC exposure. I'd still want VCU and a MWC, but adding App State wouldn't be the worse thing in the world. Liberty could turn into a BYU following if everyone gets over the Christian hate.

Fair points, my disdain with Liberty is that they are a true diploma mill with no academic standards to attend.

So maybe you want Rice? Using test admission scores Liberty has higher academic standards then at least two of the existing AAC schools and higher than Boise.

if Liberty or Rice are the options I choose stay at 11

I was actually joking about Rice. I don't see why we should be more interested in academics than the Atlantic Coast Conference was when they admitted Louisville.

Liberty is similar to Louisville in winning?

(02-07-2020 08:51 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 08:49 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 08:17 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Can we just add App State and get on with this?

Heck no. Do you want to add FIU? Or FAU? It’s the same thing as asking ECU to add App St

Well then here's an idea - drop East Carolina and go to 10.

We'll be back to kicking your ass again soon enough. Patience grasshopper.

(02-07-2020 08:48 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 08:17 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Can we just add App State and get on with this?

No

Triple NO

(02-07-2020 11:04 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:58 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:53 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:08 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Fair points, my disdain with Liberty is that they are a true diploma mill with no academic standards to attend.

So maybe you want Rice? Using test admission scores Liberty has higher academic standards then at least two of the existing AAC schools and higher than Boise.

if Liberty or Rice are the options I choose stay at 11

I was actually joking about Rice. I don't see why we should be more interested in academics than the Atlantic Coast Conference was when they admitted Louisville.

Liberty is similar to Louisville in winning?

Well that's kind of the point isn't it. The Atlantic Coast Conference was looking at Athletics and not academics when they invited Louisville. Liberty has been making and has the potential to make huge investments in their athletic programs. All this talk about academics is red herring bullshiting in my opinion LOL

(02-07-2020 11:09 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 08:51 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 08:49 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 08:17 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Can we just add App State and get on with this?

Heck no. Do you want to add FIU? Or FAU? It’s the same thing as asking ECU to add App St

Well then here's an idea - drop East Carolina and go to 10.

We'll be back to kicking your ass again soon enough. Patience grasshopper.

So that's what it sounds like if my grandmother threatens to kick my ass. Bottom line is I'm pretty sure no one in this conference really cares what East Carolina thinks --- at least in the way of expansion. You're not in that position.

Wow.

Those poor MWC schmucks are second class citizens in a G4 conference, subservient to a bunch of potatoes with a blue football field.

... Even CUSA is laughing at them.

(02-07-2020 10:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  If you think about growth both of those schools have potential and explode with the AAC exposure. I'd still want VCU and a MWC, but adding App State wouldn't be the worse thing in the world. Liberty could turn into a BYU following if everyone gets over the Christian hate.

Yeah, well...I'm old enough to remember being in a conference with Baylor. Hard pass.

(02-07-2020 10:11 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:01 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:00 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  I can see Appalachian State being considered. I think consideration should also be given to Liberty University. Both schools could come in in all sports hey both of Geographic fits unlike the MWest additions.

Oh my

If you don't see the potential of Liberty going forward then, I suspect, you're not looking.

Remember that school presidents make this choice. Frankly, I doubt Liberty could garner a single presidents vote. Keep in mind, Liberty is the school that offered a desperate Sunbelt 10 million dollars (or more) to take them and the Sunbelt said “No thanks”. I doubt AppSt has much appeal to the presidents either. It’s not even considered to be a national university by USNWP. That’s going to make them fairly unappealing to the presidents regardless of finishing ranked last year.

Where the presidents might overlook academics to a degree for a school with a real significant brand—-like Boise—-schools like Liberty and AppSt simply don’t have that kind of brand value. In the case of Liberty, there is also a second issue in that they are seen as a potential lightening rod for negative publicity due to policies that conflict with the many in academia. Lol....something to remember—-As a group, university presidents are among the most politically correct folks alive.

(02-07-2020 11:15 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:04 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:58 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:53 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  So maybe you want Rice? Using test admission scores Liberty has higher academic standards then at least two of the existing AAC schools and higher than Boise.

if Liberty or Rice are the options I choose stay at 11

I was actually joking about Rice. I don't see why we should be more interested in academics than the Atlantic Coast Conference was when they admitted Louisville.

What does Liberty offer in athletics?

Liberty is similar to Louisville in winning?

Well that's kind of the point isn't it. The Atlantic Coast Conference was looking at Athletics and not academics when they invited Louisville. Liberty has been making and has the potential to make huge investments in their athletic programs. All this talk about academics is red herring bullshiting in my opinion LOL

What does Liberty offer in athletics?

Academic quality is a hurdle that a potential school must clear in order to be added. If you meet the minimum requirement, then we'll look at how good your athletics are. And we'll add you based on ONLY how good your athletics are. Having academics better than the minimum does not help.

That's how all D-1 conferences work.

And Liberty does not meet the bare minimum, so we don't care how good their sports are.

(02-07-2020 09:13 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 08:17 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Can we just add App State and get on with this?

We are not the G** D*** Sun Belt!!

ECU went SoCon, INDY, CUSA, and was *lucky* to end up in the AAC. Boise was 1-AA, WAC, and now MWC. You do know schools inching their way up is kinda how the game works right? And ECU of all fan bases needs to stop with this ****, outside of baseball y’all currently bring 0 to the table. Go on and on and on and on and Mo and Compher all you want but your leadership made the decisions and it is what it is. Get off your damn pedestal.

(02-07-2020 11:19 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Wow.

Those poor MWC schmucks are second class citizens in a G4 conference, subservient to a bunch of potatoes with a blue football field.

... Even CUSA is laughing at them.

The 11 drawfs in the MWC probably just put the Boise issue on the back burner for current conference peace until the next contract. They have a contract that all are pleased with and Boise is getting the additional money during this contract anyway. The drawfs can meet secretly and work on another plan of attack while this contract runs its course. Realignment will be addressed again before 2026 and Boise may be gone by then anyway. If Boise is still in the MWC because they have no where else to go during the next contract negotiation they may be the one to cave in the future if they are threatened with a take it or you leave situation. By then the MWC may have identified their replacement for the sake of conference peace.

So to those posters here who immediately reply NO whenever App State is mentioned as an addition, why? I have my own thoughts about a couple factors that wouldn’t make App the best fit currently but I’m curious as to why you have such emphatic NO’s like there is some unicorn addition that is realistic to the AAC at this point.

(02-07-2020 11:15 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:04 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:58 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:53 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  So maybe you want Rice? Using test admission scores Liberty has higher academic standards then at least two of the existing AAC schools and higher than Boise.

if Liberty or Rice are the options I choose stay at 11

I was actually joking about Rice. I don't see why we should be more interested in academics than the Atlantic Coast Conference was when they admitted Louisville.

Liberty is similar to Louisville in winning?

Well that's kind of the point isn't it. The Atlantic Coast Conference was looking at Athletics and not academics when they invited Louisville. Liberty has been making and has the potential to make huge investments in their athletic programs. All this talk about academics is red herring bullshiting in my opinion LOL

I agree the academics stuff wouldn't matter if there was someone who at least proportionally brought as much value to us as Louisville brought to the ACC, but Liberty is nowhere near that level yet (and I highly doubt ever will be). Like Boise is not far removed from being a truck driver school and the AAC had no issue inviting them, but they were elite in what they were invited in. Liberty isn't elite in anything yet, and to overcome all the obvious institutional issues presidents would have with them they'd need to be consistently elite for a sustained period of time. If that happens then sure consider them, but that would be the same for any school out there.

(02-07-2020 08:51 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 08:49 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 08:17 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Can we just add App State and get on with this?

Heck no. Do you want to add FIU? Or FAU? It’s the same thing as asking ECU to add App St

Well then here's an idea - drop Tulsa and go to 10.

FIFY

I don’t understand Boise’s mindset. They’re essentially saying their conference sucks and they’re the only good team in it so they should get more money. AND THE CONFERENCE AGREED! They’re going to be crying about the NY6 bid every time they have a good year. We‘ll all just have to remind them that by their own admission they don’t play anyone.
I'm sure there's a handful of disgruntled MWC teams question is are they any we'd actually be interested in? I like SDSU as a full member addition. Great hoops, good football, great academics and they're vocally unhappy with the Boise ransom situation.

(02-07-2020 04:45 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The Mountain West Board of Directors has quietly voted to rescind a decision that would end Boise State’s additional slice of revenue from the conference’s TV contract, several sources told the Union-Tribune.

In exchange, Boise State will drop a legal complaint filed last month against the conference and agree to terms of the new TV contract that begins this summer.


https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...ball-bonus


So, if we are adding a MW team—it will be someone other than Boise.

Lol

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As simply a college bball/football fan I'm glad this was able to get ironed out. Maybe I'm old school because I don't need constant conference re-alignment. Plus, I like what the Mountain West currently has going in both football and basketball. Hopefully they can continue to succeed at a relatively high level in the western third of the country and keep the PAC 12 on their toes.

(02-07-2020 11:55 AM)App10 Wrote:  So to those posters here who immediately reply NO whenever App State is mentioned as an addition, why? I have my own thoughts about a couple factors that wouldn’t make App the best fit currently but I’m curious as to why you have such emphatic NO’s like there is some unicorn addition that is realistic to the AAC at this point.

I'm of the belief there's no need to change just for the sake of change. With that said, I'd love to get to Boone for a game! If Temple or Lehigh ever scheduled a game with the Mountaineers I'd be there in a heartbeat! The area is absolutely awesome and "The Rock" is no doubt one of the most underrated venues in the South.

I wish Lehigh and App State crossed paths in the FCS playoffs. I remember when you guys played Lafayette in the first round of the 2005 playoffs (first year of the 3-peat). The Leopards gave you guys a helluva fight. That's the only PL school I recall the Mountaineers playing.

(02-07-2020 08:48 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 07:16 AM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  The only school that has a slight chance of leaving is Air Force. I don’t see any other that would be interested in a 12 team AAC with their oly sports in purgatory.

Air Force would be great for the AAC. In prestige and a rival for Navy.

Even Navy is not on board with that idea. Navy reportedly prefers to be considered in a conference with a step up over AF.