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Rein them in, call plays from the start
(02-05-2020 10:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Glad to hear Penny saying he has started calling plays. Should have been from the beginning.

We’ve heard Penny say this half a dozen times at halftime.
“I need to rein them in, use the reins, call more set plays”
Even the announcers called him out on it in the 2nd half.
If you’re constantly having to do this, why let them play haphazard in the first place?

We know Penny has the basketball IQ. I believe the question here is does he have the dogged patience and coaching ethic to change philosophy mid season?

Every player wants to push the pace, and the coach has been cheering them on from the start....I believe he tells them, if you can build a lead, then I’ll let you continue to play fast and make you’re own choices. I think this is a habit learned from an NBA style that just doesn’t work in college, especially with freshmen. How many NBA games are free wheeling that only get serious in the 4th quarter?

He’s effectively admitting to this Achilles heel issue on National TV every week. Two weeks ago his final pregame speech word was “Zoom!”

But we’ve seen a dozen times this team fall behind early, and have to crawl back. It’s not working. Also, it’s not how he’ll be able to coach or play in the conference tournament or NCAA’s against quality competition.

This team doesn’t value every possession and it shows. If our coach valued every possession then he’d demonstrate it by forcing them to slow it down and be more deliberate.

He’s also admitted that he’s surprised at the defensive rankings and poor offensive play.

Maybe it’s a style thing, and we will never change. As fans we love a fast pace, but smart Tiger fans would say adjust the tempo based on your players capabilities. We’d all like to see less turnovers at the cost of scoring fewer points.

I feel like the coaches got this team and designed a sports car with Bond gadgets that goes fast and plays great defense.

But the car has evolved in the season into a Mack Truck. (Think Virginia)
Coach has to adjust his driving style because a truck can still win the conference tournament and beyond. What if the team goal is to keep them under 50, not first to 80. Win ugly games under 50 points?
It’s not fun to play or coach, but it is fun to win.

I love Coach Hardaway’s honesty and direct frankness especially in his press conferences. But he’s so open, that there’s nothing to hide. We see it in games, we hear it over and over.

The team played well tonight. I’m glad for this win. Here’s to winning a lot more by the end of the season...
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Penny is a "if its open, shoot it" coach ... if the pass is there , make it ... if the ball is there, take it. He coaches them like they're stars. Then if it's not working for whatever reason, he gets around to sitting them. Drives me crazy some times, but it's working for now so ...
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On the plus side we only had 16 turnovers, 2 more than I hoped for but less than we've been having.
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(02-06-2020 02:21 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  On the plus side we only had 16 turnovers, 2 more than I hoped for but less than we've been having.

That's just an incredible statement. Can you believe we are all thinking this way? "on the plus side we only had 16 turnovers". I'm happy about that too, but that's insane that a fan or any knowledgeable basketball person would be happy about 16 turnovers (usually half to 2/3 of them are completely unforced). But that's this team. At least we didn't have 25 so hooray!

They are what they are. A bunch of 18 and 19 year olds who want to play fast and fun. I am not dogging them.......I like watching the talent and what they are capable at times, but I definitely am setting a record on the number of screaming outbursts and pillow beating for me this year every time they throw the ball wherever.

Hope we can make the tourney and see what happens.

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(02-05-2020 10:45 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Glad to hear Penny saying he has started calling plays. Should have been from the beginning.

We’ve heard Penny say this half a dozen times at halftime.
“I need to rein them in, use the reins, call more set plays”
Even the announcers called him out on it in the 2nd half.
If you’re constantly having to do this, why let them play haphazard in the first place?

We know Penny has the basketball IQ. I believe the question here is does he have the dogged patience and coaching ethic to change philosophy mid season?

Every player wants to push the pace, and the coach has been cheering them on from the start....I believe he tells them, if you can build a lead, then I’ll let you continue to play fast and make you’re own choices. I think this is a habit learned from an NBA style that just doesn’t work in college, especially with freshmen. How many NBA games are free wheeling that only get serious in the 4th quarter?

He’s effectively admitting to this Achilles heel issue on National TV every week. Two weeks ago his final pregame speech word was “Zoom!”

But we’ve seen a dozen times this team fall behind early, and have to crawl back. It’s not working. Also, it’s not how he’ll be able to coach or play in the conference tournament or NCAA’s against quality competition.

This team doesn’t value every possession and it shows. If our coach valued every possession then he’d demonstrate it by forcing them to slow it down and be more deliberate.

He’s also admitted that he’s surprised at the defensive rankings and poor offensive play.

Maybe it’s a style thing, and we will never change. As fans we love a fast pace, but smart Tiger fans would say adjust the tempo based on your players capabilities. We’d all like to see less turnovers at the cost of scoring fewer points.

I feel like the coaches got this team and designed a sports car with Bond gadgets that goes fast and plays great defense.

But the car has evolved in the season into a Mack Truck. (Think Virginia)
Coach has to adjust his driving style because a truck can still win the conference tournament and beyond. What if the team goal is to keep them under 50, not first to 80. Win ugly games under 50 points?
It’s not fun to play or coach, but it is fun to win.

I love Coach Hardaway’s honesty and direct frankness especially in his press conferences. But he’s so open, that there’s nothing to hide. We see it in games, we hear it over and over.

The team played well tonight. I’m glad for this win. Here’s to winning a lot more by the end of the season...
07-coffee3 Everyone has an opinion and everyone has the right to express it But dayum guys you just can't win with some of the posters. Maybe too much praise when Penny came aboard (wow, am I glad he did ) and way too much second guessing when things are not going as well. Just like some of those announcers it would be fun to see them and some posters get their butts down there on the floor and coach a team in the NCAA. I'm sure you would win by thirty and have five turnovers. Yeah RIGHT !!!! Lighten up, you are aware that potential recruits read this board and when so called fans are suggesting that the coach dosen't really know what he is doing then some of them would have that opinion when making their college decision. Maybe you would prefer to go back to the two handed set shots and fill the Forum with 200 people in attendance. See, I can state my opinions just the same as you but I am sure that Penny and Mike know more about basketball and coaching than y'alls complete knowledge in a thimble. I guess most of you don't know what a thimble is either.
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RE: Rein them in, call plays from the start
(02-06-2020 08:02 AM)TIGERBUDDY Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:45 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Glad to hear Penny saying he has started calling plays. Should have been from the beginning.

We’ve heard Penny say this half a dozen times at halftime.
“I need to rein them in, use the reins, call more set plays”
Even the announcers called him out on it in the 2nd half.
If you’re constantly having to do this, why let them play haphazard in the first place?

We know Penny has the basketball IQ. I believe the question here is does he have the dogged patience and coaching ethic to change philosophy mid season?

Every player wants to push the pace, and the coach has been cheering them on from the start....I believe he tells them, if you can build a lead, then I’ll let you continue to play fast and make you’re own choices. I think this is a habit learned from an NBA style that just doesn’t work in college, especially with freshmen. How many NBA games are free wheeling that only get serious in the 4th quarter?

He’s effectively admitting to this Achilles heel issue on National TV every week. Two weeks ago his final pregame speech word was “Zoom!”

But we’ve seen a dozen times this team fall behind early, and have to crawl back. It’s not working. Also, it’s not how he’ll be able to coach or play in the conference tournament or NCAA’s against quality competition.

This team doesn’t value every possession and it shows. If our coach valued every possession then he’d demonstrate it by forcing them to slow it down and be more deliberate.

He’s also admitted that he’s surprised at the defensive rankings and poor offensive play.

Maybe it’s a style thing, and we will never change. As fans we love a fast pace, but smart Tiger fans would say adjust the tempo based on your players capabilities. We’d all like to see less turnovers at the cost of scoring fewer points.

I feel like the coaches got this team and designed a sports car with Bond gadgets that goes fast and plays great defense.

But the car has evolved in the season into a Mack Truck. (Think Virginia)
Coach has to adjust his driving style because a truck can still win the conference tournament and beyond. What if the team goal is to keep them under 50, not first to 80. Win ugly games under 50 points?
It’s not fun to play or coach, but it is fun to win.

I love Coach Hardaway’s honesty and direct frankness especially in his press conferences. But he’s so open, that there’s nothing to hide. We see it in games, we hear it over and over.

The team played well tonight. I’m glad for this win. Here’s to winning a lot more by the end of the season...
07-coffee3 Everyone has an opinion and everyone has the right to express it But dayum guys you just can't win with some of the posters. Maybe too much praise when Penny came aboard (wow, am I glad he did ) and way too much second guessing when things are not going as well. Just like some of those announcers it would be fun to see them and some posters get their butts down there on the floor and coach a team in the NCAA. I'm sure you would win by thirty and have five turnovers. Yeah RIGHT !!!! Lighten up, you are aware that potential recruits read this board and when so called fans are suggesting that the coach dosen't really know what he is doing then some of them would have that opinion when making their college decision. Maybe you would prefer to go back to the two handed set shots and fill the Forum with 200 people in attendance. See, I can state my opinions just the same as you but I am sure that Penny and Mike know more about basketball and coaching than y'alls complete knowledge in a thimble. I guess most of you don't know what a thimble is either.

Not going to address anything about Penny since that has been beat to death the past two weeks and I have already gotten pulled into a few of those conversations.

However, the idea that recruits read messages boards and base their college decision on a few handful of anonymous fan opinions is ridiculous. All major programs have fan forums where the fringe of the fan base post, trolls come and post just to say ridiculous stuff and stir the pot and then you have the loons of every fan base that just hate the coach for some unknown reason and post their vitriol nonstop. If a handful of posters questioning Penny's coaching sways a kids from coming here then he was never coming here to begin with...
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RE: Rein them in, call plays from the start
(02-05-2020 10:45 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Glad to hear Penny saying he has started calling plays. Should have been from the beginning.

We’ve heard Penny say this half a dozen times at halftime.
“I need to rein them in, use the reins, call more set plays”
Even the announcers called him out on it in the 2nd half.
If you’re constantly having to do this, why let them play haphazard in the first place?

We know Penny has the basketball IQ. I believe the question here is does he have the dogged patience and coaching ethic to change philosophy mid season?

Every player wants to push the pace, and the coach has been cheering them on from the start....I believe he tells them, if you can build a lead, then I’ll let you continue to play fast and make you’re own choices. I think this is a habit learned from an NBA style that just doesn’t work in college, especially with freshmen. How many NBA games are free wheeling that only get serious in the 4th quarter?

He’s effectively admitting to this Achilles heel issue on National TV every week. Two weeks ago his final pregame speech word was “Zoom!”

But we’ve seen a dozen times this team fall behind early, and have to crawl back. It’s not working. Also, it’s not how he’ll be able to coach or play in the conference tournament or NCAA’s against quality competition.

This team doesn’t value every possession and it shows. If our coach valued every possession then he’d demonstrate it by forcing them to slow it down and be more deliberate.

He’s also admitted that he’s surprised at the defensive rankings and poor offensive play.

Maybe it’s a style thing, and we will never change. As fans we love a fast pace, but smart Tiger fans would say adjust the tempo based on your players capabilities. We’d all like to see less turnovers at the cost of scoring fewer points.

I feel like the coaches got this team and designed a sports car with Bond gadgets that goes fast and plays great defense.

But the car has evolved in the season into a Mack Truck. (Think Virginia)
Coach has to adjust his driving style because a truck can still win the conference tournament and beyond. What if the team goal is to keep them under 50, not first to 80. Win ugly games under 50 points?
It’s not fun to play or coach, but it is fun to win.

I love Coach Hardaway’s honesty and direct frankness especially in his press conferences. But he’s so open, that there’s nothing to hide. We see it in games, we hear it over and over.

The team played well tonight. I’m glad for this win. Here’s to winning a lot more by the end of the season...

17-5 missing his 2 best players. 'Nuff said.
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(02-06-2020 09:08 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  17-5 missing his 2 best players. 'Nuff said.

Well said. 04-cheers

This program is light years ahead of where it was just a few short years ago with arguably the best ambassador/head coach we've ever had, and some will still complain about things. Go Tigers!
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(02-06-2020 06:15 AM)Tigermemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 02:21 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  On the plus side we only had 16 turnovers, 2 more than I hoped for but less than we've been having.

That's just an incredible statement. Can you believe we are all thinking this way? "on the plus side we only had 16 turnovers". I'm happy about that too, but that's insane that a fan or any knowledgeable basketball person would be happy about 16 turnovers (usually half to 2/3 of them are completely unforced). But that's this team. At least we didn't have 25 so hooray!

They are what they are. A bunch of 18 and 19 year olds who want to play fast and fun. I am not dogging them.......I like watching the talent and what they are capable at times, but I definitely am setting a record on the number of screaming outbursts and pillow beating for me this year every time they throw the ball wherever.

Hope we can make the tourney and see what happens.

TM

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(02-06-2020 09:47 AM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 09:08 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  17-5 missing his 2 best players. 'Nuff said.

Well said. 04-cheers

This program is light years ahead of where it was just a few short years ago with arguably the best ambassador/head coach we've ever had, and some will still complain about things. Go Tigers!

Amen!
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(02-06-2020 09:08 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:45 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Glad to hear Penny saying he has started calling plays. Should have been from the beginning.

We’ve heard Penny say this half a dozen times at halftime.
“I need to rein them in, use the reins, call more set plays”
Even the announcers called him out on it in the 2nd half.
If you’re constantly having to do this, why let them play haphazard in the first place?

We know Penny has the basketball IQ. I believe the question here is does he have the dogged patience and coaching ethic to change philosophy mid season?

Every player wants to push the pace, and the coach has been cheering them on from the start....I believe he tells them, if you can build a lead, then I’ll let you continue to play fast and make you’re own choices. I think this is a habit learned from an NBA style that just doesn’t work in college, especially with freshmen. How many NBA games are free wheeling that only get serious in the 4th quarter?

He’s effectively admitting to this Achilles heel issue on National TV every week. Two weeks ago his final pregame speech word was “Zoom!”

But we’ve seen a dozen times this team fall behind early, and have to crawl back. It’s not working. Also, it’s not how he’ll be able to coach or play in the conference tournament or NCAA’s against quality competition.

This team doesn’t value every possession and it shows. If our coach valued every possession then he’d demonstrate it by forcing them to slow it down and be more deliberate.

He’s also admitted that he’s surprised at the defensive rankings and poor offensive play.

Maybe it’s a style thing, and we will never change. As fans we love a fast pace, but smart Tiger fans would say adjust the tempo based on your players capabilities. We’d all like to see less turnovers at the cost of scoring fewer points.

I feel like the coaches got this team and designed a sports car with Bond gadgets that goes fast and plays great defense.

But the car has evolved in the season into a Mack Truck. (Think Virginia)
Coach has to adjust his driving style because a truck can still win the conference tournament and beyond. What if the team goal is to keep them under 50, not first to 80. Win ugly games under 50 points?
It’s not fun to play or coach, but it is fun to win.

I love Coach Hardaway’s honesty and direct frankness especially in his press conferences. But he’s so open, that there’s nothing to hide. We see it in games, we hear it over and over.

The team played well tonight. I’m glad for this win. Here’s to winning a lot more by the end of the season...

17-5 missing his 2 best players. 'Nuff said.

I remember so many people making similar statements in 2008 about free-throws.. 28-1.. they will make them when it counts.

Ignoring obvious problems because they havent bitten you yet is very short sighted.

I make 4k a week and I only spend 1k a week on cocaine and meth, whats the big deal? I can sustain this forever....
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(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 09:08 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:45 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Glad to hear Penny saying he has started calling plays. Should have been from the beginning.

We’ve heard Penny say this half a dozen times at halftime.
“I need to rein them in, use the reins, call more set plays”
Even the announcers called him out on it in the 2nd half.
If you’re constantly having to do this, why let them play haphazard in the first place?

We know Penny has the basketball IQ. I believe the question here is does he have the dogged patience and coaching ethic to change philosophy mid season?

Every player wants to push the pace, and the coach has been cheering them on from the start....I believe he tells them, if you can build a lead, then I’ll let you continue to play fast and make you’re own choices. I think this is a habit learned from an NBA style that just doesn’t work in college, especially with freshmen. How many NBA games are free wheeling that only get serious in the 4th quarter?

He’s effectively admitting to this Achilles heel issue on National TV every week. Two weeks ago his final pregame speech word was “Zoom!”

But we’ve seen a dozen times this team fall behind early, and have to crawl back. It’s not working. Also, it’s not how he’ll be able to coach or play in the conference tournament or NCAA’s against quality competition.

This team doesn’t value every possession and it shows. If our coach valued every possession then he’d demonstrate it by forcing them to slow it down and be more deliberate.

He’s also admitted that he’s surprised at the defensive rankings and poor offensive play.

Maybe it’s a style thing, and we will never change. As fans we love a fast pace, but smart Tiger fans would say adjust the tempo based on your players capabilities. We’d all like to see less turnovers at the cost of scoring fewer points.

I feel like the coaches got this team and designed a sports car with Bond gadgets that goes fast and plays great defense.

But the car has evolved in the season into a Mack Truck. (Think Virginia)
Coach has to adjust his driving style because a truck can still win the conference tournament and beyond. What if the team goal is to keep them under 50, not first to 80. Win ugly games under 50 points?
It’s not fun to play or coach, but it is fun to win.

I love Coach Hardaway’s honesty and direct frankness especially in his press conferences. But he’s so open, that there’s nothing to hide. We see it in games, we hear it over and over.

The team played well tonight. I’m glad for this win. Here’s to winning a lot more by the end of the season...

17-5 missing his 2 best players. 'Nuff said.

I remember so many people making similar statements in 2008 about free-throws.. 28-1.. they will make them when it counts.

Ignoring obvious problems because they havent bitten you yet is very short sighted.

I make 4k a week and I only spend 1k a week on cocaine and meth, whats the big deal? I can sustain this forever....

take that team and remove Rose after 3 games and have Dozier tear a PCL halfway through the season...then it's similar.
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(02-06-2020 11:49 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 09:08 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:45 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Glad to hear Penny saying he has started calling plays. Should have been from the beginning.

We’ve heard Penny say this half a dozen times at halftime.
“I need to rein them in, use the reins, call more set plays”
Even the announcers called him out on it in the 2nd half.
If you’re constantly having to do this, why let them play haphazard in the first place?

We know Penny has the basketball IQ. I believe the question here is does he have the dogged patience and coaching ethic to change philosophy mid season?

Every player wants to push the pace, and the coach has been cheering them on from the start....I believe he tells them, if you can build a lead, then I’ll let you continue to play fast and make you’re own choices. I think this is a habit learned from an NBA style that just doesn’t work in college, especially with freshmen. How many NBA games are free wheeling that only get serious in the 4th quarter?

He’s effectively admitting to this Achilles heel issue on National TV every week. Two weeks ago his final pregame speech word was “Zoom!”

But we’ve seen a dozen times this team fall behind early, and have to crawl back. It’s not working. Also, it’s not how he’ll be able to coach or play in the conference tournament or NCAA’s against quality competition.

This team doesn’t value every possession and it shows. If our coach valued every possession then he’d demonstrate it by forcing them to slow it down and be more deliberate.

He’s also admitted that he’s surprised at the defensive rankings and poor offensive play.

Maybe it’s a style thing, and we will never change. As fans we love a fast pace, but smart Tiger fans would say adjust the tempo based on your players capabilities. We’d all like to see less turnovers at the cost of scoring fewer points.

I feel like the coaches got this team and designed a sports car with Bond gadgets that goes fast and plays great defense.

But the car has evolved in the season into a Mack Truck. (Think Virginia)
Coach has to adjust his driving style because a truck can still win the conference tournament and beyond. What if the team goal is to keep them under 50, not first to 80. Win ugly games under 50 points?
It’s not fun to play or coach, but it is fun to win.

I love Coach Hardaway’s honesty and direct frankness especially in his press conferences. But he’s so open, that there’s nothing to hide. We see it in games, we hear it over and over.

The team played well tonight. I’m glad for this win. Here’s to winning a lot more by the end of the season...

17-5 missing his 2 best players. 'Nuff said.

I remember so many people making similar statements in 2008 about free-throws.. 28-1.. they will make them when it counts.

Ignoring obvious problems because they havent bitten you yet is very short sighted.

I make 4k a week and I only spend 1k a week on cocaine and meth, whats the big deal? I can sustain this forever....

take that team and remove Rose after 3 games and have Dozier tear a PCL halfway through the season...then it's similar.

What are you talking about and how does that have anything to do with the bolded quote?
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(02-06-2020 11:52 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:49 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 09:08 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:45 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  We’ve heard Penny say this half a dozen times at halftime.
“I need to rein them in, use the reins, call more set plays”
Even the announcers called him out on it in the 2nd half.
If you’re constantly having to do this, why let them play haphazard in the first place?

We know Penny has the basketball IQ. I believe the question here is does he have the dogged patience and coaching ethic to change philosophy mid season?

Every player wants to push the pace, and the coach has been cheering them on from the start....I believe he tells them, if you can build a lead, then I’ll let you continue to play fast and make you’re own choices. I think this is a habit learned from an NBA style that just doesn’t work in college, especially with freshmen. How many NBA games are free wheeling that only get serious in the 4th quarter?

He’s effectively admitting to this Achilles heel issue on National TV every week. Two weeks ago his final pregame speech word was “Zoom!”

But we’ve seen a dozen times this team fall behind early, and have to crawl back. It’s not working. Also, it’s not how he’ll be able to coach or play in the conference tournament or NCAA’s against quality competition.

This team doesn’t value every possession and it shows. If our coach valued every possession then he’d demonstrate it by forcing them to slow it down and be more deliberate.

He’s also admitted that he’s surprised at the defensive rankings and poor offensive play.

Maybe it’s a style thing, and we will never change. As fans we love a fast pace, but smart Tiger fans would say adjust the tempo based on your players capabilities. We’d all like to see less turnovers at the cost of scoring fewer points.

I feel like the coaches got this team and designed a sports car with Bond gadgets that goes fast and plays great defense.

But the car has evolved in the season into a Mack Truck. (Think Virginia)
Coach has to adjust his driving style because a truck can still win the conference tournament and beyond. What if the team goal is to keep them under 50, not first to 80. Win ugly games under 50 points?
It’s not fun to play or coach, but it is fun to win.

I love Coach Hardaway’s honesty and direct frankness especially in his press conferences. But he’s so open, that there’s nothing to hide. We see it in games, we hear it over and over.

The team played well tonight. I’m glad for this win. Here’s to winning a lot more by the end of the season...

17-5 missing his 2 best players. 'Nuff said.

I remember so many people making similar statements in 2008 about free-throws.. 28-1.. they will make them when it counts.

Ignoring obvious problems because they havent bitten you yet is very short sighted.

I make 4k a week and I only spend 1k a week on cocaine and meth, whats the big deal? I can sustain this forever....

take that team and remove Rose after 3 games and have Dozier tear a PCL halfway through the season...then it's similar.

What are you talking about and how does that have anything to do with the bolded quote?

so you can't read? how sad...
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(02-06-2020 11:53 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:52 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:49 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 09:08 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  17-5 missing his 2 best players. 'Nuff said.

I remember so many people making similar statements in 2008 about free-throws.. 28-1.. they will make them when it counts.

Ignoring obvious problems because they havent bitten you yet is very short sighted.

I make 4k a week and I only spend 1k a week on cocaine and meth, whats the big deal? I can sustain this forever....

take that team and remove Rose after 3 games and have Dozier tear a PCL halfway through the season...then it's similar.

What are you talking about and how does that have anything to do with the bolded quote?

so you can't read? how sad...

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RE: Rein them in, call plays from the start
(02-05-2020 10:45 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 10:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Glad to hear Penny saying he has started calling plays. Should have been from the beginning.

We’ve heard Penny say this half a dozen times at halftime.
“I need to rein them in, use the reins, call more set plays”
Even the announcers called him out on it in the 2nd half.
If you’re constantly having to do this, why let them play haphazard in the first place?

We know Penny has the basketball IQ. I believe the question here is does he have the dogged patience and coaching ethic to change philosophy mid season?

Every player wants to push the pace, and the coach has been cheering them on from the start....I believe he tells them, if you can build a lead, then I’ll let you continue to play fast and make you’re own choices. I think this is a habit learned from an NBA style that just doesn’t work in college, especially with freshmen. How many NBA games are free wheeling that only get serious in the 4th quarter?

He’s effectively admitting to this Achilles heel issue on National TV every week. Two weeks ago his final pregame speech word was “Zoom!”

But we’ve seen a dozen times this team fall behind early, and have to crawl back. It’s not working. Also, it’s not how he’ll be able to coach or play in the conference tournament or NCAA’s against quality competition.

This team doesn’t value every possession and it shows. If our coach valued every possession then he’d demonstrate it by forcing them to slow it down and be more deliberate.

He’s also admitted that he’s surprised at the defensive rankings and poor offensive play.

Maybe it’s a style thing, and we will never change. As fans we love a fast pace, but smart Tiger fans would say adjust the tempo based on your players capabilities. We’d all like to see less turnovers at the cost of scoring fewer points.

I feel like the coaches got this team and designed a sports car with Bond gadgets that goes fast and plays great defense.

But the car has evolved in the season into a Mack Truck. (Think Virginia)
Coach has to adjust his driving style because a truck can still win the conference tournament and beyond. What if the team goal is to keep them under 50, not first to 80. Win ugly games under 50 points?
It’s not fun to play or coach, but it is fun to win.

I love Coach Hardaway’s honesty and direct frankness especially in his press conferences. But he’s so open, that there’s nothing to hide. We see it in games, we hear it over and over.

The team played well tonight. I’m glad for this win. Here’s to winning a lot more by the end of the season...
There is a fine line here. You don't want to reign them in too much that you take away the advantage of playing fast.

This team is built to play fast, but playing fast has also turned into playing too fast.

It's a fine line.
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(02-06-2020 11:53 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:52 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:49 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 09:08 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  17-5 missing his 2 best players. 'Nuff said.

I remember so many people making similar statements in 2008 about free-throws.. 28-1.. they will make them when it counts.

Ignoring obvious problems because they havent bitten you yet is very short sighted.

I make 4k a week and I only spend 1k a week on cocaine and meth, whats the big deal? I can sustain this forever....

take that team and remove Rose after 3 games and have Dozier tear a PCL halfway through the season...then it's similar.

What are you talking about and how does that have anything to do with the bolded quote?

so you can't read? how sad...

I can read just fine but what you said makes NO SENSE in response to what I said. Sorry that goes over your head, but I am sure you are used to it.
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(02-06-2020 12:22 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:53 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:52 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:49 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:43 AM)memtigbb Wrote:   I remember so many people making similar statements in 2008 about free-throws.. 28-1.. they will make them when it counts.

Ignoring obvious problems because they havent bitten you yet is very short sighted.

I make 4k a week and I only spend 1k a week on cocaine and meth, whats the big deal? I can sustain this forever....

take that team and remove Rose after 3 games and have Dozier tear a PCL halfway through the season...then it's similar.

What are you talking about and how does that have anything to do with the bolded quote?

so you can't read? how sad...

I can read just fine but what you said makes NO SENSE in response to what I said. Sorry that goes over your head, but I am sure you are used to it.

you can't compare those two squads like that...doing so makes NO SENSE.
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RE: Rein them in, call plays from the start
(02-06-2020 12:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
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(02-06-2020 11:53 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:52 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:49 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  take that team and remove Rose after 3 games and have Dozier tear a PCL halfway through the season...then it's similar.

What are you talking about and how does that have anything to do with the bolded quote?

so you can't read? how sad...

I can read just fine but what you said makes NO SENSE in response to what I said. Sorry that goes over your head, but I am sure you are used to it.

you can't compare those two squads like that...doing so makes NO SENSE.

Except he is not comparing them on overall achievement or preseason expectations vs. actual results but rather drawing a parallel between the way we as fans used the record to justify bad free shooting just as some people are using this team's current record to justify the turnover problem. The point being that eventually glaring issues will come up and bite you in the butt if they are not corrected. We are next to last in turnovers, it is not exactly and extreme statement to say that will likely cost us a game or cause us to lose earlier in the post season than we otherwise should if it is not corrected.
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(02-06-2020 02:14 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
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(02-06-2020 11:53 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 11:52 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  What are you talking about and how does that have anything to do with the bolded quote?

so you can't read? how sad...

I can read just fine but what you said makes NO SENSE in response to what I said. Sorry that goes over your head, but I am sure you are used to it.

you can't compare those two squads like that...doing so makes NO SENSE.

Except he is not comparing them on overall achievement or preseason expectations vs. actual results but rather drawing a parallel between the way we as fans used the record to justify bad free shooting just as some people are using this team's current record to justify the turnover problem. The point being that eventually glaring issues will come up and bite you in the butt if they are not corrected. We are next to last in turnovers, it is not exactly and extreme statement to say that will likely cost us a game or cause us to lose earlier in the post season than we otherwise should if it is not corrected.

instead of pointing to a team that made the NCAA finals why not just say that?
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