(02-10-2020 10:42 AM)2Buck Wrote: This is what I mean about the rating sites adjusting based on offers. If a site rates a player 2 stars and the kid gets a full offer to Alabama and Ohio St, that kid is a 4/5 star. I trust scouts and recruiters from those schools more than the rating site.
He wasn't a kid that suddenly improved dramatically overnight, the rating site didn't know what they were doing until experienced scouts made a determination.
Much harder to be accurate for players at no/2 stars since their offers can be all over the place and there's much less scrutiny/reporting from top scouts.
2Buck is 100% accurate.
I'll give you 2 quick examples of how these fraudulent recruiting sites work.
Va Tech has a 2020 commit at CB. The kid was offered in June after attending a VaTech camp and he committed on the spot. He ran a very fast 40. This kid had 1 offer from Delaware State---He had NO other offers, NO stars, and he might not even had a 247 profile. After the VaTech offer, within a few days, this kid had 3 stars to go along with a 247 profile.
Syracuse has a 2020 commit a S, from Canada and a 2020 commit at CB from SC. Both these kids received offers from Cuse after attending their camp in July. They committed on the spot. The kid from Canada had no offers before Cuse, no stars and no 247 profile. Within days he had 3 stars and a 247 profile.The kid from SC had 1 offer, and no stars. Within days he was a 3 star recruit.
These schools offered these kids after laying their eyes on them. This is how fraudulent the star system and these recruiting sites truly are. They feed off the schools NOT visa versa. But they market their system as the Holy Grail's of recruiting so they can sell memberships to their sites, so ppl like us can vent all over their message boards.
Unless a kid is some national 4 or 5 star recruit---And most of those kids got those stars by showcasing at National recruiting combines like the Nike Opening, Rivals or Under Armour. Which are invitation only camps---coaches fill their classes by laying their eyes on kids at camps.
Only the very top schools can cherry pick the top kids. Even schools like Michigan, Penn State, and VaTech, have to run satellite camps all summer in different regions to expand their regional base and to mine the country for talent. Rutgers and ODU run huge camps at their schools where they invite scores of FBS/FCS schools to view what is in effect a huge recruiting meat market. If those P5 schools are looking to lay their eyes on kids before they offer---You can be sure JMU is doing the same.
The camps are where these schools find recruits. This is where they talk to kids and usually their parents to start to develop a relationship to make sure everything is a good fit for both.
I guarantee JMU laid their eyes on all the kids they offered at a JMU camp. And from what I remember, 2 of our commits (Malignaggi and Simpson) had top performances at a Nike Opening event. With the fact that Cignetti was the lead recruiter for Saban's original staff at Bama, I'd say he deserves a degree of trust