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(02-11-2020 11:02 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  Offer the job to P.J. Fleck so he can bring that rah-rah baloney back to Michigan. I'm not really a Spartan Fan, but, their Football program is way better than Minnesota. Row The Boat and SPARTY On!!!

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His buyout is ludicrous for anyone, it would be downright horrible for MSU to pay it after the payout they've had to make for all of the rapes/sexual assaults they allowed to occur under their roof for the past two decades.
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Fleck is in a great position right now. He gets all the attention in the state (no other FBS programs to compete with in MN), he's in the more winnable B1G division, and has an easier-to-please fan base.
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(02-11-2020 11:15 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 11:02 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  Offer the job to P.J. Fleck so he can bring that rah-rah baloney back to Michigan. I'm not really a Spartan Fan, but, their Football program is way better than Minnesota. Row The Boat and SPARTY On!!!

GO ROCKETS

His buyout is ludicrous for anyone, it would be downright horrible for MSU to pay it after the payout they've had to make for all of the rapes/sexual assaults they allowed to occur under their roof for the past two decades.

If MSU (or other colleges) don't want to make these payouts, then don't approve of them in contracts that the college agrees to
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Coaches that have ran the other way from MSU......

Matt Campbell
Pat Narduzzi
Robert Saleh
Mel Tucker
Luke Fickell
Brent Pry
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Never thought it possible that any school would give Tennessee a run for most "Dysfunctional Coaching Search".....and apparently today one of the trustees went on local sports talk today and called Fickell a "waffling flake"

https://twitter.com/JamieSamuelsen/statu...44480?s=20

Yeah.....this seems like a stable situation
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(02-11-2020 12:03 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 11:15 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 11:02 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  Offer the job to P.J. Fleck so he can bring that rah-rah baloney back to Michigan. I'm not really a Spartan Fan, but, their Football program is way better than Minnesota. Row The Boat and SPARTY On!!!

GO ROCKETS

His buyout is ludicrous for anyone, it would be downright horrible for MSU to pay it after the payout they've had to make for all of the rapes/sexual assaults they allowed to occur under their roof for the past two decades.

If MSU (or other colleges) don't want to make these payouts, then don't approve of them in contracts that the college agrees to

...um...Minnesota negotiated that, specifically to deter interest from other schools...that's what buyouts are for...
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I wonder if Candle is saying inside of himself, why not me?
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(02-11-2020 03:04 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  I wonder if Candle is saying inside of himself, why not me?

The dumpster fire up in E. Lansing might not be worth it for JC...
Even though it would be an extensive bump up in $$$$ for him and a chance to latch unto one of the better (historically anyway) jobs in the BIG 10...
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(02-11-2020 03:29 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 03:04 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  I wonder if Candle is saying inside of himself, why not me?

The dumpster fire up in E. Lansing might not be worth it for JC...
Even though it would be an extensive bump up in $$$$ for him and a chance to latch unto one of the better (historically anyway) jobs in the BIG 10...

That fan base would burn East Lansing to the ground if they hired Candle after last season’s collapse. He may very well end up somewhere other than Toledo, but not for another couple seasons, imo.
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(02-11-2020 04:34 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 03:29 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 03:04 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  I wonder if Candle is saying inside of himself, why not me?

The dumpster fire up in E. Lansing might not be worth it for JC...
Even though it would be an extensive bump up in $$$$ for him and a chance to latch unto one of the better (historically anyway) jobs in the BIG 10...

That fan base would burn East Lansing to the ground if they hired Candle after last season’s collapse. He may very well end up somewhere other than Toledo, but not for another couple seasons, imo.

Even assuming no scandal, just business as usual at MSU

Would your first move from G5 to a P5 school be to The Big 10 East? I guess if you thought you wouldn't have other options, which Candle clearly will assuming another year or 2 of success

Or do you take jobs like Fleck and Drinkwitz did....in easier divisions
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(02-05-2020 01:47 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 09:48 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  I am NOT trying to promote Candle to MSU, but, I just read an article where he is considered a candidate along with Matt Campbell, Luke Fickell, Chris Creighton and Lance Leiopold from Buffalo. Wouldn't it be surreal if Candle took the job and we go to MSU and beat them next year?

Campbell has already said no to MSU

Why would he do that? I could imagine him maybe turning down Indiana or Illinois. But, MSU? I think that would be a mistake, but we shall see.
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Per ESPN: Michigan State is expected to hire Colorado’s Mel Tucker as next head coach - The Athletic

Jason Candle is staying in Toledo (for now)! I can rest peacefully now.
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(02-11-2020 10:49 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 01:47 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 09:48 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  I am NOT trying to promote Candle to MSU, but, I just read an article where he is considered a candidate along with Matt Campbell, Luke Fickell, Chris Creighton and Lance Leiopold from Buffalo. Wouldn't it be surreal if Candle took the job and we go to MSU and beat them next year?

Campbell has already said no to MSU

Why would he do that? I could imagine him maybe turning down Indiana or Illinois. But, MSU? I think that would be a mistake, but we shall see.

I’m willing to bet Campbell is only leaving Ames for an elite P5 program such as LSU, OSU, or Clemson. If he continues to have success at Iowa St, he’ll get one of those jobs within 3-5 years
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Looks like MSU will hire Colorado head coach Mel Tucker.
https://footballscoop.com/news/reports-m...-spartans/
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(02-12-2020 08:03 AM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote:  Looks like MSU will hire Colorado head coach Mel Tucker.
https://footballscoop.com/news/reports-m...-spartans/

Dude tweeted out a commitment to Colorado literally 3 days ago...do you think he deletes that or edits it? 03-lmfao
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(02-11-2020 01:05 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 12:03 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 11:15 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 11:02 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  Offer the job to P.J. Fleck so he can bring that rah-rah baloney back to Michigan. I'm not really a Spartan Fan, but, their Football program is way better than Minnesota. Row The Boat and SPARTY On!!!

GO ROCKETS

His buyout is ludicrous for anyone, it would be downright horrible for MSU to pay it after the payout they've had to make for all of the rapes/sexual assaults they allowed to occur under their roof for the past two decades.

If MSU (or other colleges) don't want to make these payouts, then don't approve of them in contracts that the college agrees to

...um...Minnesota negotiated that, specifically to deter interest from other schools...that's what buyouts are for...

Opps thought you were referring to Dantonio's sweet bonus he cashed in just before resigned....,my bad
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(02-12-2020 08:34 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(02-12-2020 08:03 AM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote:  Looks like MSU will hire Colorado head coach Mel Tucker.
https://footballscoop.com/news/reports-m...-spartans/

Dude tweeted out a commitment to Colorado literally 3 days ago...do you think he deletes that or edits it? 03-lmfao

More than doubling his $2.7 million salary may have had something to do with it.
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(02-12-2020 09:09 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 01:05 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 12:03 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 11:15 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 11:02 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  Offer the job to P.J. Fleck so he can bring that rah-rah baloney back to Michigan. I'm not really a Spartan Fan, but, their Football program is way better than Minnesota. Row The Boat and SPARTY On!!!

GO ROCKETS

His buyout is ludicrous for anyone, it would be downright horrible for MSU to pay it after the payout they've had to make for all of the rapes/sexual assaults they allowed to occur under their roof for the past two decades.

If MSU (or other colleges) don't want to make these payouts, then don't approve of them in contracts that the college agrees to

...um...Minnesota negotiated that, specifically to deter interest from other schools...that's what buyouts are for...

Opps thought you were referring to Dantonio's sweet bonus he cashed in just before resigned....,my bad

No problem, this whole situation is confusing as heck.
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(02-11-2020 11:15 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 11:02 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  Offer the job to P.J. Fleck so he can bring that rah-rah baloney back to Michigan. I'm not really a Spartan Fan, but, their Football program is way better than Minnesota. Row The Boat and SPARTY On!!!

GO ROCKETS

His buyout is ludicrous for anyone, it would be downright horrible for MSU to pay it after the payout they've had to make for all of the rapes/sexual assaults they allowed to occur under their roof for the past two decades.

Speaking of ludicrous, Temple's Rod Carey has a $10 million buyout. How in the HELL does Temple have that big of a buyout for its coach yet Toledo only has a half a million buyout for Candle?
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(02-12-2020 10:16 AM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 11:15 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(02-11-2020 11:02 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  Offer the job to P.J. Fleck so he can bring that rah-rah baloney back to Michigan. I'm not really a Spartan Fan, but, their Football program is way better than Minnesota. Row The Boat and SPARTY On!!!

GO ROCKETS

His buyout is ludicrous for anyone, it would be downright horrible for MSU to pay it after the payout they've had to make for all of the rapes/sexual assaults they allowed to occur under their roof for the past two decades.

Speaking of ludicrous, Temple's Rod Carey has a $10 million buyout. How in the HELL does Temple have that big of a buyout for its coach yet Toledo only has a half a million buyout for Candle?

Paying him $2M/6 years with about 75% of that guaranteed...the guarantee is what allowed for that concession probably. We're talking about doing the same sort of thing for Fickell just with more money and years.
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