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RE: new convocation center
JMU needed a new arena mostly because the Convo was not originally designed to be one and therefore did not stand the test of time. It isn’t all about game day. Practices and workouts for both teams are a challenge at the Convo.

With the Bank, JMU will have a legitimate arena to host a multitude of events and one that won’t need replacing in 30 years. It is needed and is the last major athletic facility to be built. JMU now has a full set of modern athletic facilities. No sport has been left out. The only remaining major project tied to athletics will be the completion of the visiting side of the stadium.

Kudos to our administration for the many improvements to the university over the last 40 years. JMU is a beautiful campus and should be a source of pride for everyone that calls themselves a Duke.
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(02-05-2020 08:55 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  JMU needed a new arena mostly because the Convo was not originally designed to be one and therefore did not stand the test of time. It isn’t all about game day. Practices and workouts for both teams are a challenge at the Convo.

With the Bank, JMU will have a legitimate arena to host a multitude of events and one that won’t need replacing in 30 years. It is needed and is the last major athletic facility to be built. JMU now has a full set of modern athletic facilities. No sport has been left out. The only remaining major project tied to athletics will be the completion of the visiting side of the stadium.

Kudos to our administration for the many improvements to the university over the last 40 years. JMU is a beautiful campus and should be a source of pride for everyone that calls themselves a Duke.
While not a major sport, swim and dive has been left out and could use some updating.
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RE: new convocation center
(02-05-2020 09:39 AM)Top Dawg Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 08:55 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  JMU needed a new arena mostly because the Convo was not originally designed to be one and therefore did not stand the test of time. It isn’t all about game day. Practices and workouts for both teams are a challenge at the Convo.

With the Bank, JMU will have a legitimate arena to host a multitude of events and one that won’t need replacing in 30 years. It is needed and is the last major athletic facility to be built. JMU now has a full set of modern athletic facilities. No sport has been left out. The only remaining major project tied to athletics will be the completion of the visiting side of the stadium.

Kudos to our administration for the many improvements to the university over the last 40 years. JMU is a beautiful campus and should be a source of pride for everyone that calls themselves a Duke.
While not a major sport, swim and dive has been left out and could use some updating.

Definitely agree. Godwin pool has been there for ages and definitely needs an upgrade. The swim/diving team is good and they deserve a better place to compete.
One idea would be for Harrisonburg to build an aquatic center. They could use it not just for JMU events but for the local community to use. Virginia Tech uses the aquatic center in Christiansburg and that place is incredible. It doesn't just have a competition pool with diving, but has a separate indoor recreation pool for kids and parties. I take my son there all the time and he loves it. I don't see why Harrisonburg couldn't do something similar.
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(02-05-2020 09:45 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 09:39 AM)Top Dawg Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 08:55 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  JMU needed a new arena mostly because the Convo was not originally designed to be one and therefore did not stand the test of time. It isn’t all about game day. Practices and workouts for both teams are a challenge at the Convo.

With the Bank, JMU will have a legitimate arena to host a multitude of events and one that won’t need replacing in 30 years. It is needed and is the last major athletic facility to be built. JMU now has a full set of modern athletic facilities. No sport has been left out. The only remaining major project tied to athletics will be the completion of the visiting side of the stadium.

Kudos to our administration for the many improvements to the university over the last 40 years. JMU is a beautiful campus and should be a source of pride for everyone that calls themselves a Duke.
While not a major sport, swim and dive has been left out and could use some updating.

Definitely agree. Godwin pool has been there for ages and definitely needs an upgrade. The swim/diving team is good and they deserve a better place to compete.
One idea would be for Harrisonburg to build an aquatic center. They could use it not just for JMU events but for the local community to use. Virginia Tech uses the aquatic center in Christiansburg and that place is incredible. It doesn't just have a competition pool with diving, but has a separate indoor recreation pool for kids and parties. I take my son there all the time and he loves it. I don't see why Harrisonburg couldn't do something similar.

Renovate the Convo and use the lower seating bowl for the pool and any extra room use for multi-purpose track, tennis, etc...
Then you could demo Godwin and build the other side with the indoor football practice facility attached! Boom - pretty sweet plan!
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Besides the pool and associated facilities, the Hart School of Hospitality Management has all its offices and classrooms in Godwin. I think there might be some other departments there as well. That would complicate things with tearing down the building.
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(02-05-2020 12:00 PM)LovethoseDukes Wrote:  Besides the pool and associated facilities, the Hart School of Hospitality Management has all its offices and classrooms in Godwin. I think there might be some other departments there as well. That would complicate things with tearing down the building.

After converting the convo to the new pool - or at the same time, build out a new Hart School building - doesn't have to be super big - there aren't that many classrooms/offices upstairs - this could go where the old baseball stadium is. Then Godwin is empty and ready for demo - it's a 5-10 year timeline but it would be so much more efficient than having all of the football and personnel have to trek equipment to the Convo if they used that for the permanent indoor facility. Plus Godwin is an eyesore, very dated in the middle of campus! I don't have the $100 mil to make it happen but it would be sweet!
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The convo is not a good place for a pool. A Natatorium is a complicated build; best done new not as a refurb. The old convo refurb is a pipe dream at the moment; if it stays an athletics facility it'll take 25M of private fundraising to make it happen. Funding will not come from Richmond, and I don't think our student fees are going to go up in order to make it happen.

The old baseball stadium (Mauck Field) is destined to become student housing someday when the Village dormitory rebuild moves forward.

Godwin isn't going anywhere, nor does it need to (when it comes to stadium expansion). It has not outlived its useful life; it isn't even 50 years old, and was financed by Virginia tax payers. Its demolition would not be received well by Richmond.
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Just call that George Bailey dude. He built a pool underneath the gym floor. Saved the local high school a ton of money.

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(02-05-2020 01:32 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Just call that George Bailey dude. He built a pool underneath the gym floor. Saved the local high school a ton of money.

Genius!

Didn't we have that in Keezell? I remember seeing a non fictional pool in the basement in the mid 80s. BSKB24- was the basketball court over top of the pool in the basement of Keezell?

Edit: Never mind. Just found a picture of the old Keezell pool. Looks like the roof is too low for basketball.
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(02-05-2020 01:24 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  The convo is not a good place for a pool. A Natatorium is a complicated build; best done new not as a refurb. The old convo refurb is a pipe dream at the moment; if it stays an athletics facility it'll take 25M of private fundraising to make it happen. Funding will not come from Richmond, and I don't think our student fees are going to go up in order to make it happen.

The old baseball stadium (Mauck Field) is destined to become student housing someday when the Village dormitory rebuild moves forward.

Godwin isn't going anywhere, nor does it need to (when it comes to stadium expansion). It has not outlived its useful life; it isn't even 50 years old, and was financed by Virginia tax payers. Its demolition would not be received well by Richmond.

Just fill the seating bowl with water, it'll be fine! :) Maybe take the seats out first!

So if they don't refurb the Convo, what is it going to be? That would take a lot to demo all of that cement bunker cleared out for a new building.

Move the dorms further north on the interstate to the practice football fields...other than fall camp, how often does football use those fields? The village was in the 10 year plan more than 10 years ago...so it might be another 10 years before that actually happens...it does need to happen though.

Godwin is a dump...20 years ago when I was a Sport Mgmt major (before it was the "Hart School") it was old - my high school had nicer classrooms. Now that Showker is getting a face lift, it's really the only building on campus that is an eyesore. Do you have an office in Godwin? What is your affinity for it?

It would take a lot of $ which I pointed out and prob wouldn't be seen in positive light in Richmond meaning Charlie would have to be creative like he has been with other projects.

Can we just go with the flow here and say how sweet it would be if we had a finished Bridgeforth with a brand new indoor practice facility in the middle of campus. And how much more efficient it would be on the football staff and players to be centrally located to the main locker room and APC?

It's a pipe dream...I know! So don't be a debbie downer on my pie in the sky. Everything you said is very accurate. I am very familiar with JMU, it's long term plans and understand how unrealistic my scenario may be...but if you never have excitement and hopes and dreams then you'll struggle at making anything special ever happen. Rudy. Ruudy. Ruuudy. 04-cheers
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(02-05-2020 01:24 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  The old baseball stadium (Mauck Field) is destined to become student housing someday when the Village dormitory rebuild moves forward.

I thought the indoor football practice facility is to be placed there???
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(02-05-2020 09:10 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 01:24 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  The old baseball stadium (Mauck Field) is destined to become student housing someday when the Village dormitory rebuild moves forward.

I thought the indoor football practice facility is to be placed there???

I probably completely missed it but is the permanent football practice facility still coming? I know that was part of Houston's contract but I haven't heard anything about it since he left. Don't attack me, like I said I probably just missed the news.
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I'm not sure it's settled yet. If I had to guess I would guess that our temporary practice facility is like 8 years temporary. It's already been through 2 seasons. I'll ask around this weekend.
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I could not find a thread about the court in the new AUBC.
A friend happened to see a JMU home game on tv and he thought our court looked pretty dumb, with the enormous Duke Dog.

I have seen 2 courts I like recently, Baylor University and University of Minnesota. Neither has enormous images of mascots, and display enough open area to distinguish the players and playing of the game. Plus, the sort of white-wash finish makes the court pop under tv lights.

https://www.google.com/search?q=universi...dMS5MYEpM:

I just hope the era of gigantic mascots is over. :)
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Court should be improved outside of the impossible to defend decision of having another division 1 school’s name pasted on it.
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(02-05-2020 02:13 PM)olddawg Wrote:  
(02-05-2020 01:32 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Just call that George Bailey dude. He built a pool underneath the gym floor. Saved the local high school a ton of money.

Genius!

Didn't we have that in Keezell? I remember seeing a non fictional pool in the basement in the mid 80s. BSKB24- was the basketball court over top of the pool in the basement of Keezell?

Edit: Never mind. Just found a picture of the old Keezell pool. Looks like the roof is too low for basketball.
[Image: C9ZWOZvXkAARAkz.jpg]

The basketball gym floor was directly over the pool. That floor was very interesting. It had dead spots in it and it had spots that were like a trampoline. I suppose all the years of the moisture directly under it affected it. There was a balcony all the way around the gym which was pretty cool.
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If only it were so easy to just turn a building from a basketball arena into a swimming/diving pool! Some of you make it sound like all they gotta do is fill the thing up with water and they'll be good to go.
Is it even an option to dig deeper into the Convo space to create a diving facility. Do you know how deep it needs to be (About 16 feet deep by the way- not to mention adding a 10 meter platform above it all)? How about dimensions for a competitive swimming pool. How about the additional pipes and drainage system and filtration needed?
I am not sure it would be worth making all of the massive structural changes to make it work.
I just don't think it's as easy as some of you seem to think it is.
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